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PS5 Pro developer verdict: ‘I didn’t meet a single person that understood the point of it’

James Sawyer Ford

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kbear said:
So have you posted any predictions or anything that’s proven true? I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not with that first line as, like I said, I’m not that in tune with the lore here. It’s just funny to me that a random forum poster can claim they’re chatting and gaming with Xbox execs and there’s seemingly no push back at all, lol.
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gothmog

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Seems kinda short sighted to dismiss this upgrade. People are just used to having incremental upgrade options. Why not let these companies cash in on that? I know my money is ready for an upgrade.
 
Kacho

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Mr.Phoenix said:
And it doesn't have to be....

it would be a magic bullet, and a simple fact, for that every game that exists on the current PS5, will perform and or look better on the PS5 Pro in some shape or form.

And that is all it needs to be. Anyone that is saying they can't see the sense or point for something that would cost like $100-$150 more than a base model and that offers that... is either just flat-out lying at best, or a hypocrite at worst.

Why? well, its because that's what CPU and GPU manufacturers have been doing, every single fucking year, for the last... well forever.
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Any performance gains will be minimal. The main thing will be increased resolution just like the PS4 Pro, hence why devs are scratching their heads.
 
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K' Dash

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Radical_3d said:
So, the guys giving me 720p @ 60fps don’t see the point of a better GPU…
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and you will keep getting low res, cross gen games on the new HW.

Congrats.
 
Mr Moose

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kbear said:
So have you posted any predictions or anything that’s proven true? I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not with that first line as, like I said, I’m not that in tune with the lore here. It’s just funny to me that a random forum poster can claim they’re chatting and gaming with Xbox execs and there’s seemingly no push back at all, lol.
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James Sawyer Ford

James Sawyer Ford

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kbear said:
Got a link? Also, what does that have to do with chatting with Xbox execs?
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No link but last year he said the pro would be around 17 TF but the biggest changes were going to be elsewhere with RT and AI and that the TF was misleading but people would be pleased with the final result

I think he’s mostly chatting with Mike Ybarra and plays with him on Xbox on occasion (obviously that’s not his source or only source)
 
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iHaunter

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Uhh is this developer from an A studio? Show me a game that's 4k/60 without being dynamic and stable? Most games need to be dynamic 4k to reach 60 FPS at the result of lower IQ. If PS5 was strong enough. We wouldn't need "Quality" 30 FPS modes. Should be able to do 60 FPS no?
 
Mr.Phoenix

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Kacho said:
Any performance gains will be minimal. The main thing will be increased resolution just like the PS4 Pro, hence why devs are scratching their heads.
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Bollocks.

First off, I can pretty much tell you that devs are not scratching tehir heads and articles like these are bullshit articles.

How can I possibly know that?

Because the same devcs that have to drop resolutions down to 720p and use that messed up FSR to manage 60fps, have eyes just like us. And they know the shit they pout ouy t looks like shit. I am sorry, but I cant, wont, take a dev, or anyone for that matter (which I guess includes you) seriously, who has seen what has been happening over the last 3 years, comes out and says, we don't see the need to have am more powerful GPU.

And again, why is this even a conversation? Why is it ok, for PC user to have an "OPTION" to upgrade their CPU or GPU every single year and select from at least 4 different SKUs released each year from each vendor, but when a console does the exact same thing... this happens?
 
HeisenbergFX4

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kbear said:
So have you posted any predictions or anything that’s proven true? I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not with that first line as, like I said, I’m not that in tune with the lore here. It’s just funny to me that a random forum poster can claim they’re chatting and gaming with Xbox execs and there’s seemingly no push back at all, lol.
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If I can be brutally honest me proving myself of who I know which allows me to say some of the things I do here is to the mods, not to every poster who doesn't believe things I have said

And I feel my track record hardware wise is decent, back even before this gen launched
 
FoxMcChief

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I’m sure no developer wants the upgrade, first party included. First party teams obviously can’t speak up. This just means more work for them, with what pay off? Sony is the only one profiting from those that think they been the slight bump.
 
GermanZepp

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kbear said:
So have you posted any predictions or anything that’s proven true? I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not with that first line as, like I said, I’m not that in tune with the lore here. It’s just funny to me that a random forum poster can claim they’re chatting and gaming with Xbox execs and there’s seemingly no push back at all, lol.
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go thru his messages history. He is moderated and always drops snippets of stuff. Take it or leave it.
 
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I'm interested in seeing how much the ray tracing has improved in the pro. I'm a nerd for this kind of stuff so that's the main selling point for me. If there's little to no improvement in RT then its an easy pass for me.
 
kbear

kbear

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James Sawyer Ford said:
No link but last year he said the pro would be around 17 TF but the biggest changes were going to be elsewhere with RT and AI and that the TF was misleading but people would be pleased with the final result

I think he’s mostly chatting with Mike Ybarra and plays with him on Xbox on occasion (obviously that’s not his source or only source)
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So blindly believing he’s chatting with Xbox execs and thus believing his Xbox info is all based on the fact that he got some of the PS5 Pro specs right. Got it.
 
aclar00

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a multicultural team of v said:
Uh, isn't the real question here actually why the hell are developers saying they weren't really making the most of the PS5 in the first place? Why haven't they been doing that? Why are the ones responsible for making the most of the PS5 casually saying they aren't making the most of the PS5 without any sort of explanation?

"This generation doesn't even seem to have been started" YOU ARE responsible for that! He needs to ask the damn publishers why they apparently haven't started the generation ffs
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You're not wrong, but Sony falls into this category as well. Their 1st party studios really havent taken advantage of the base. Unfortunately if this thing is coming out, its likely to be more of a joke support wise than PSVR2.

The main advantage i see is brute force FPS or 4K (which some will appreciate) and that's if it's a Sony requirement. Nothing else will change from a game perspective. Hope I'm wrong though.

Though 2-3 years from now, base PS5 Naughty Dog game will likely look and run better than 90% of other studios games on Pro settings.
 
aclar00

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Sephimoth said:
This is why I eyeroll every time I hear about a pro console. Have the current ones even been pushed at all yet? (I suspect NO)
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Graphically ive been disappointed this gen. Given all the settings games have now you would think there would be an ultra graphical setting for those of us still on 1080p...but here i am still looking at PS4 like games 4 years later.
 
Solarstrike

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Smh, the whole PS5 and XBox Series X things was/is a farse. Cash grab more or less. The PS4 Pro was just fine and so was the XBox One X. My PS5 collects dust for the most part and I ended up selling the XBSX because there was (and still is) literally no games. Everything I wanted to play for the most part is on the PC now or will be. Still have my XBox One X though which I play regularly with games like Red Dead Redemption (upgraded version), Dante's Inferno, NHL 14, Fight Night Champion, Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic I & II. It's a great system
 
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MisterXDTV

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aclar00 said:
Unfortunately if this thing is coming out, its likely to be more of a joke support wise than PSVR2.
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So much wrong in just a few words....

- It is coming out
- It has nothing in common with PSVR2 that is a completely different platform that needs DEDICATED games
- SUPPORT IS MANDATORY
 
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Heisenberg007

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Roxkis_ii said:
But the same games that are running very unoptimize on Console also aren't running very optimized on PC which can be several times more powerful than the base PS5 or even the PS5 Pro, so it doesn't seem like just having more horse power is the answer.
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Console optimization is a bit different though. If a game is hovering around 50 FPS on a PS5, it will most likely hit a consistent 60 on a PS5 Pro.

Having said that, though, I agree that devs need to optimize the games better. But these devs are not optimizing their games on consoles or PC, and then also complaining against a Pro console. That's just plain stupid.
 
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