Well for starters in that Ratchet shot have a look at the damaged wall texture. Can't tell me that the texture differences are due to motion blur, there is a whole different level of detail. Same goes for the bottom of the boot. Level of detail in the distance also looks higher on the Pro. It looks like in general PSSR is preserving a whole lot more detail in the upscale.
"On par or slightly better than a PC solution.....your crazy!" Shows proof....."your crazy!" Lol GD people can't just be glad with progression that will be good for the industry.
The thing is: it's compressed for both.
AMD never used AI upscaling. The RDNA 4 tech on PS5 is the first time we are seeing that. PSSR is not FSR.
That's a disingenuous question if you understand what you are looking at and why FSR is what it is IMO.
Wasn't AMD said to be working on AI upscaling for FSR?
DLSS hasn’t reduced the visual clarity of textures in years.
That's totally fine but Blackwell will kick PS5 Pro ass.Hmmm think I'll buy ps5pro instead
Aren't that how they should look? Im playing now Star Wars Outlaws and with RTXGI some shadows look like that, and without like on base PS5.
Cool. So pssr will have better upscaling than dlss on a 4090?
The audacity of adam liking this post.
I don't think so, maybe?
DLSS is not card specific, so its just DLSS, in a comparison. That is for us to check. 4090 can run at much higher fps and res, so the Upscaler has way less to do.Also on PC there are not 2 modes to compare but you can put the settings to however u want.
What are people saying is the problem? The red arrow marked shadows in the left shot on PS5 are too hard for the distance away compared to depth cueing and the openness of the area for indirect secondary lighting to illuminate and soften the shadow IMO.I don't think so, maybe?
This isn’t new technology anymore and they can build it into hardware and customize it to their machine. Remember they did CBR before anyone else. They’re not new at this.So you're telling me Sony is going to better DLSS on their first try?
A lot of Sony employees in the last batch? It’s the only thing that justifies some of the ridiculous spins.And some people still doubting this page has become Sony land… BTW
It took NVIDIA quite a while to get DLSS right. The first iteration was pretty underwhelming, the second iteration (Control / Anthem) was much better but actually didn't use the GPU tensor cores.
But I do expect PSSR to improve at a rate much faster than DLSS or XeSS because it only needs trained for PlayStation's native results, and because the training will likely have the best AAA training data from all PlayStation's past gens.
I get what you and the others are saying but isn't this thread about PSSR being better than DLSS running on 4090?
I dunno. Sharp shadows aren't considered realistic for many. Pro could actually use more realistic RT shadows like the ones seen in GTA5 which actually do look blurrier like those.
Mr Moose
post above me. It looks like RT shadows indeed.
But PSSR has been correctly trained to upscale them coherently that way, from a native image rendering them that way, so it neither proves or disproves IMO without a side by side with native rendering being similar.
Maybe and maybe that shot is something strange going on but to me that shadow in the Pro shot looks bad
Try playing Dead Space with dlss. It looks like crap, even in quality mode.
My spare old Sony KD-55X9005A 4K tv that launched the PS4 and UHD 4K tvs has a dual database(neural net) inference upscaler (the X1 chip) in it which still makes most non-Sony TV upscalers look like rubbish even a decade later. Watching a 1080p netflix feed of something like the Punisher or Better Call Saul looks native 4K blu-ray quality.
It is probably a reversal of the FSR situation looking good in stills but breaks down in motion. The RT in that situation will completely alter when viewed in motion, and look far more natural as a complex lighting simulation.
It's ray-traced. That's why it looks blurry
