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PS5 Pro Reveal Thread - Not Flops, TFlops

Little Chicken

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midnightAI said:
well , 'they' were deluded to think the 'Pro' console would only be $70 (or $100 or whatever) more than the current PS5

$699 is pretty much ball park what I thought it would be (well, anywhere from 649 to 699)
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I always assumed it was going to be expensive, most were just hoping for it to be in the 500/550 ballpark which is just fantasy.
 
twilo99

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MagnesD3 said:
With that price tag they know this is only supposed be sold to the richie riches of the world. I think halfway into the pro they understood just how empty thier libraries were gonna be but it was too late to stop by that point.
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This will sell very well regardless of price.

Bernardougf said:
Yeah there is the highly acclaimed and trusted xbox and the nintendo money maker you pay 400 dollars for 10-15 years outdated hardware.
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Buying a Zen2 CPU in 2025 for 800 Euro is a better proposition of course.
 
TIGERCOOL

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Hahahaa.. Sony can fuck themselves. This thing is going to be such a flop until they inevitably pair a 30% discount with the GTA 6 release. Gonna be a lot of doom and gloom until then.
 
SlimySnake

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OverHeat said:
Your going to go nuts when you see that PSSR is not on DLSS level…
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Even DLSS performance isnt really that great compared to DLSS Quality. I am not a fan of how soft the image becomes at 4k dlss performance.

The leaked docs stated that they will be downscaling the internal resolution of fidelity modes to 1080p to get the framerate up to 60 fps. I really hope they target 1440p instead. Though with just a 45% increase in raw GPU power they probably dont have enough to upscale AND run at 1440p internal.
 
Zathalus

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Mephisto40 said:
Show me a PC that costs £700 that does RT and 60fps at 4K
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You can build a PC in the UK with a 4070 (so faster than the Pro) for £800, including a mouse and keyboard. Considering the Pro lacks a disc drive you’d have to buy that as well matching the price. So for £800 you get a PC faster than the Pro. Oh sure you don’t need the disc drive but then you loose all the advantages of physical media and have to deal with significantly higher game prices compared to PC.
 
Crispy Gamer

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Damn it's actually good value compared to the 2tb series x but I have to let the initial shock ware off I'm glad pre-orders don't start for a couple weeks lol
 
MarkMe2525

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NEbeast said:
Way to miss the point. Cerny said 75% of players use performance mode. Xbox users have said the opposite after having several high profile games at 30fps.
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No, I got the point. Some people said some things. I was making a different point, maybe you missed it.
 
HeisenbergFX4

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Topher said:
No competition. Here's the result
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best

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Welp, they just did the presentation, and I have some quick thoughts.

-I do wish it were longer; the PS5 presentation Mark Cerny did in 2020 was great IMO, it doesn't matter if it got technical. That made it feel like a presentation, whereas this one felt more like an infomercial ad. That can have its place, but I wanted something more in-depth. Maybe interviews and a blog post will give more technical details.​
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-This is probably just me in general, because I watched the stream in 1080p, but some comparisons were hard for me to upfront notice the changes between PS5 and PS5 Pro. Then again, I've felt this way between most multiplat comparisons this gen between PS5 & XSX, but in this case it could also have been down to the choice of some games. Maybe things like advanced RT weren't possible to implement in a game due to its graphics pipeline/engine?​
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Off the bat I'd say GT7, Rift Apart and Spiderman 2 were the best showcases in noticing the differences upfront​
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-This baby's in that 3DO tier of pricing and that's where things can get...interesting. Do I personally think the 9-minute presentation was enough to sell the Pro? No. Not at $699. I think some games with more clear-cut improvements on display or maybe a snippet from a new 1P game developed with the Pro's features in mind (or a snippet from an upcoming 3P game of similar) would have made for a better presentation. Or just sticking to GT7/R&C/SM2 and going more in-detail with comparisons since I feel they showed off the boosts the best.​
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No mention or showing what it could do for 8K TVs or with the PSVR2 & PS Portal in terms of any performance gains there, are also missed points IMO.​

I'm sure further details via a blog and/or interviews will highlight the Pro's strengths, and Mark Cerny is always great to listen to, but the man excels at deep technical presentations and the format of this presentation didn't allow for that. So the presentation itself, I'd probably have to give it a 7/10.

Between now and release I hope SIE show off more comparisons that put the Pro's strengths on full display because even with PlayStation's brand name, $699 (that's for the Digital, BTW seems like) is gonna be a bit of a tough sell, most likely.
 
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nnytk

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DryvBy said:
blog.playstation.com

Welcome PlayStation 5 Pro, the most visually impressive way to play games on PlayStation

Features including GPU upgrade, advanced ray tracing, and PlayStation Spectral Super Resolution take players to new heights.
blog.playstation.com blog.playstation.com

Disc drive is $80 more and that's what they expect us to use. LOL

$780 for a PS5. F off, Sony.
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In Europe, a PS5 costs 799 euros, plus 130 euros for the disc drive and 50 for a stand — nearly 1,000 euros total. This is far higher than I expected, especially considering the lower average disposable income over here. I can afford myself a console like this. But I'm having a difficult time justifying such a high amount of money, for entertainment's sake. The reason I wanted to get a PS5 Pro instead of a new PC was due to the high GPU prices on the PC market...
 
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Jaybe

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A high price but it is a premium product at a premium price for enthusiasts and those that want the best. Typical Apple pricing strategy at play for new products. Hopefully next year it will be cheaper and there will be some excellent new AAA games that take advantage of it.
 
Ogbert

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Mephisto40 said:
As much as everyone wants to complain about this, when GTA6 releases and this is the only console that plays the game at 60fps, do you honestly think this thing isn't going to sell like crazy?

You're genuinely deluded if you think this thing is going to bomb
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No, it won’t sell like crazy, because it costs too much.

We’re all nerds and enthusiasts, so will pay the price, but tens of millions aren’t even off PS4 yet.

A lot of people are scraping by at the moment. This is absolutely a premium product.
 
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Trunim

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Showing of last of us part 2 lmfao, yeah its one of my favourite games but enough already, let alone bragging about running it on ps5 pro a little bit better, i wont even see the difference on my tv….
 
Mephisto40

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Zathalus said:
You can build a PC in the UK with a 4070 (so faster than the Pro) for £800, including a mouse and keyboard. Considering the Pro lacks a disc drive you’d have to buy that as well matching the price. So for £800 you get a PC faster than the Pro. Oh sure you don’t need the disc drive but then you loose all the advantages of physical media and have to deal with significantly higher game prices compared to PC.
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And yet this PC won't be able to play GTA6 until 16 months after the PS5 Pro, Sony don't really need "advantages" when this is the only place to play GTA6 at 60fps for 16 months after release
 
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