There are loads of upsides and downsides to PC and console gaming, However, I've lost count of the number of times I've read "PCs are plug and play nowadays, almost like consoles" etc.
The fact that you can now build something that go toe to toe with console with individual DiY parts says a lot of the value of the PS5 Pro. Which is essentially a toy when put side by side with functionality and freedom of the OS/platform.
He wasn't there during the days of AGP vs PCI when GPUs required different slots, or that you had to manually set up an optical drive as a slave and boot drive as a master for your system to start properly. Not to mention the manual downloads of drivers instead of Windows automatically detecting 99% of devices and installing them for you.
See the above threads.
Indeed.
The wolves of neogaf have already torn your argument to shreds and are now enjoying their meal, but even if the equivalent PC cost an extra $100, it wouldn't make a big difference to most people's wallet.
Game prices. You really need a disc drive to not be locked into the PSN prices, on PC you don't have that limitation. Naturally, you don't need the disc drive, but you'll end up spending a lot more on games.
I bought myself a custom built PC in June. My GPU was poorly refurbished instead of new and causes my system to overheat.
Yes you'll still have PCMR types outright lying rather than admitting that cheap games and improved performance has a price.
Considering that hundreds of thousands of GPUs are sold each month by retailers in the USA, a lot of people build their own PCs. Not the majority, but not some insignificant minority either.
While PC gaming is absolutely not as easy as some would have you believe, the troubleshooting issues thing is vastly overstated as well. If you base your opinion off Reddit or here you'll get a different picture of reality. Just google "PS5 crash Reddit" and you'd think the PS5 has some widespread crashing issue as well.
To me it was the little annoyances that added up (I'm on a 4K TV) instead of maintenance:
This is mostly true. People go with the correct assumption that they need to pay more for a decent PC, so when they go that route, they usually have a console already or just want a PC for the benefits. Nobody really looks at PCs and go "fuck it, I'll go get a console". What they seek in a gaming PC is typically not available in a console and vice-versa.
Used to happen all the time when I was younger and worked customer service jobs. 'But I looked online and your product has a lot of issues." Yeah, if search for people who have issues with the product, you will find them.
Reading through the gazillions of poor framerates, resolutions, IQ, graphics, BC, controllers support, mods, emulations, paid online, $70~80 dollar games, 3RL, YLOD, etc etc is eye opening.
Wish this could be posted twice. I tried to play PC games on my TV for a long time and when I describe what a lousy experience it is, I have fools say I am wrong every time. I also found HDR to be totally broken in Windows and ended up playing RE7 in PS4 to get that experience.
Skill issue.
Not autistic enough maybe
Thanks for doubling down on the hyperbole. Every game launch? Come on now.
I do not discount your experience, but you seem exceptionally unlucky (PSU dying, too? Are console PSUs indestructible? Anyway my Corsair 750RM runs flawlessly since 2018). I am literally typing this from a couch on a TV (glory of logitech K400). I have used PC connected to TV and playing with wireless xbox controller for the last 15 years. The PC is also connected to LCD monitor for the few games (like CnC Remastered) that I play at a desk with a mouse.
I have to agree with this. And I am gaming on fucking Linux since Windows 11. Never head any problems. Even with World of WarCraft.
To be fair, the issues I mentioned happened over a span of 10 years of using it on a TV with a 4K scaled resolution. I used to have the patience to deal with them, but I don't have the time anymore (only 1–2 hours a day at most). It sucks, since games are much cheaper on PC than on consoles in my country, but I guess I value convenience more these days.I do not discount your experience, but you seem exceptionally unlucky (PSU dying, too? Are console PSUs indestructible? Anyway my Corsair 750RM runs flawlessly since 2018). I am literally typing this from a couch on a TV (glory of logitech K400). I have used PC connected to TV and playing with wireless xbox controller for the last 15 years. The PC is also connected to LCD monitor for the few games (like CnC Remastered) that I play at a desk with a mouse.
I went through your laundry list of issues and literally the only issues I share from that list, is that some games do not have proper fullscreen, so to be able to use DLDSR I have to set my desktop res to desired resolution before starting the game. I created desktop shortcuts for that so I just double click on the icon, resolution switches immediately and then I start the game. The second issue is with my Steam Deck overwriting PC graphics settings, but that happened I think only with one or two games that were badly setup. And developer actually fixed it.
No other issues. These are the games I have installed now, all run perfectly (although some needed few patches, like TLOU1, or some mods, like Fallout 1 and 2, due to their age):
I have had this Windows 10 install since 2020 btw. 5 years without any reinstall, the only maintenance I do is graphics drivers and letting windows update do its thing.
I am very unexcited by the prospect of upgrading to Windows 11, considering that my current setup runs flawlessly and 11 brings me zero benefits.
