Wouldn't Metal Gear Ac!d, Lumines, and Mercury all apply to that? A card game is a pretty radical change from the Metal Gear formula and Lumines seems to make an interesting take on the puzzle genre. Throw Dynasty Warriors PSP on that list too because there are some big changes in how the game is played being brought to the PSP. I don't know much about the other games yet beyond some pics, though.
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Well, Lumines isn't confirmed.
And I don't trust MGA until I play it. Card games kind of suck. This is the one instance where a straight port would have been preferable.
But if you think Twisted Metal / Wipeout / Ape Escape, etc don't seem like the console versions, you are insane.
And I don't trust MGA until I play it. Card games kind of suck. This is the one instance where a straight port would have been preferable.
But if you think Twisted Metal / Wipeout / Ape Escape, etc don't seem like the console versions, you are insane.
Unison said:
MGA is awesome.
The story is one of the few serious mature thrillers that we see rarely and the gameplay system is really good (plays a lot like FM4 type strategy game). Only thing is the presentation is rough and you can tell it was rushed to make launch. Some fine tuning could make the US version excellent.
Bebpo said:
I want to believe this news. MGA is good in theory, but it's a card game, and one has to approach those with skepticism.
I am almost definitely getting a PSP, as long as it's under $200, so it's lineup is almost beside the point to me.
As far as Twisted Metal, Wipeout, ATV Offroad Fury, Dynasty Warriors, Ridge Racers, and Tony Hawk I skipped the last entry in each of those franchises on PS2. Why would I want the PSP version?
Spider-Man 2 was fun but I've already beaten it on PS2, so I don't need to buy it again.
Ape Escape is good in theory (I think it's Sony's best 1st party franchise, frankly), but the lack of dual analog is disturbing, seeing as that's the whole point of Ape Escape.
I don't care about any of those EA games except Tiger Woods, which I have on the DS (which is perfectly adequate). I guess the graphical improvement would make me choose the PSP version next year over the DS one, barring major upgrades on that side.
Coded Arms looks kind of generic & Untold Legends brings back unpleasant CoN memories.
Mercury & Darkstalkers are promising. Those are probably what I'd opt for, but I hope neither costs more than $30.
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Wow, no one on GAF is interested in the PSP. FEELTEHMAGIC!!!1! How will the unit survive?!?!
Man, what...
PSP Launch - March 2005
Mercury Ignition Entertainment
Dynasty Warriors Koei
FIFA Soccer Electronic Arts
MVP Baseball Electronic Arts
NBA 2005 989 Sports
NBA Street EA Sports
NFL Street 2 EA Sports
Need For Speed Underground Rivals Electronic Arts
Ridge Racer Namco
Spider-Man 2 Activision
Tiger Woods PGA Tour EA Sports
Untold Legends: Brotherhood of the Blade Sony Online Entertainment
Spring 2005
Ape Escape Sony Computer Entertainment
ATV Offroad Fury Sony Computer Entertainment
Tony Hawk's Underground 2 Remix Activision
Twisted Metal: Head-On Sony Computer Entertainment
Wipeout Pure Sony Computer Entertainment
Summer 2005
Coded Arms Konami
Hot Shots Golf Sony Computer Entertainment
TBA 2005
Darkstalkers Chronicle Capcom
Metal Gear Acid Konami
IGN
PSP Launch - March 2005
Mercury Ignition Entertainment
Dynasty Warriors Koei
FIFA Soccer Electronic Arts
MVP Baseball Electronic Arts
NBA 2005 989 Sports
NBA Street EA Sports
NFL Street 2 EA Sports
Need For Speed Underground Rivals Electronic Arts
Ridge Racer Namco
Spider-Man 2 Activision
Tiger Woods PGA Tour EA Sports
Untold Legends: Brotherhood of the Blade Sony Online Entertainment
Spring 2005
Ape Escape Sony Computer Entertainment
ATV Offroad Fury Sony Computer Entertainment
Tony Hawk's Underground 2 Remix Activision
Twisted Metal: Head-On Sony Computer Entertainment
Wipeout Pure Sony Computer Entertainment
Summer 2005
Coded Arms Konami
Hot Shots Golf Sony Computer Entertainment
TBA 2005
Darkstalkers Chronicle Capcom
Metal Gear Acid Konami
IGN
Unison said:
I don't know why you skipped Twisted Metal Black, which was phenomenal, but if you skipped Wipeout Fusion because you hated the direction it was headed then you should give the PSP game a chance again because it goes back to its roots. You know, the time when Wipeout games were indisputably among the best futuristic/weapon-based racing games out there? Yeah, that time. And this version introduces downloadable content from new courses and new hovers and new music, etc.
If you skipped TM:B because you didn't like the direction, then you'll like TMPSP because it's a direct sequel/remix to Twisted Metal 2 on PSX.
Ridge Racers, well, I'm not a huge fan. But by all accounts the PSP version is quite literally the best RR game ever created. It's like an adrenaline dose of every thing that was good about the RR series and then beautified and pimped out.
As for THUG2 and ATV and Dynasty... well... come to your own conclusions.
Unison said:
But Spider-Man 2 PSP isn't a port of the PS2 game OR DS game, it's a completely new version that according to IGN "the game is built around 19 intense, combat-heavy environments that approach the story of the movie from a different angle than seen in other versions of the game."
So it'll be an entirely unique experience.
Unison said:
The PSP version has many MANY advantages over the DS version of Tiger Woods already so this should be no problem.
Unison said:
So... let me ask you. Based on your own criteria, what launch would you say was impressive? You know, your criteria is presenting things we've never seen before. N64 with its two worthwhile titles? Dreamcast with its mediocre Sonic game and Virtual Fighter? PS2 with its one billion garbage throw away titles?
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Bebpo said:
Knew that, but figured there'd be at least a couple rpg ports with the launch. Just an easy cash cow to work with the launch heh. Most of the work is done for a port anyways, usually they'll just add small bells and whistles here and there. Besides the fewer there are the more you can cash in since you're the only show in town. Oh well, will have to wait for Y's or the Tales game. Still, that doesn't explain the light puzzle lineup. Luckily the menu's in the Japanese version of Lumines are in english heh.
Unison said:
It depends on your flavour, but naturally this time around Ridge Racers is PSPs killer launch app.
However, like Mario 64, Soul Calibur stands on a class unique to launch titles in that they reinvented (or invented) their genres for the console and became classics. You can't really do that with PSP because by this point all genres have mostly already been done in SOME form and done CORRECTLY, at least in terms of thinking of something clever for launches.
But, one GREAT GAME does not save an launch sorry.
Amir0x said:
Also, this logic is utterly retarded. Soul Calibur was only a progression of what Soul Blade / Edge had already done.
To argue that "by this point all genres have mostly already been done in SOME form and done CORRECTLY" makes no sense at all. What are you even trying to say? Is innovation impossible?!
Unison said:
I realize you're being sarcastic, but the launch really was overrated. It had Sonic Adventure, which is not a good game I'm sad to say, and it had Virtua Fighter... which is ok, decent... but really has been done much better by this point. It doesn't hold up like a Mario 64 does. Powerstone was overrated, but you can include that if you like. What else was there?
Soul Calibur. And that's an amazing game, no doubt. But really the rest of the launch games weren't really that good. I guess they had the benefit of being the first true 128 bit games and that's something, but they don't hold up well.
Unison said:
Comparing Soul Calibur to the previous Soul Blade/Edge on CONSOLES is so hilarious it's not even worth discussing. You of all people should realize the amazing stride and advancement and reinvigoration this game brought to consoles. It was like NOTHING before because it was a PERFECT fighting game. I.e., it REINVENTED what was great for CONSOLE fighting games.
Unison said:
No. It just won't come in forms as radical as we saw back in the day, therefore it'll be more of a slower progression than the stop gap "OMG AMAZING NEVER PLAYED THIS BEFORE" type situation. It can still happen, of course, but it's just more rare. And it's even going to be more rare at launches. You won't get a Katamari Damacy at launch, for instance, because no developer will really want to take such a chance on a radically new title on an unproven format. Mercury and Lumines are an exception, but they pass on handheld because they're puzzle games which work well in this format.
Lyte Edge said:
It REINVENTED its genre for the console format. It was an arcade-perfect version, perfected and invigorated, for a console. Nothing quite like it was ever seen before on a console. Thus, it was quite a bit of a step up.
Amir0x said:
Soul Calibur "reinvented" its genre? Uh, okay. The game had amazing visuals. That's it. That's what made it so popular.
This is not a statement made to bash SC's game play in any way; just stating (what should be) the obvious.
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Unison said:
Twisted Metal. Seriously. If you haven't played Black, I think you should. One of the best games this gen. Incog is a great team.
Most launches "suck" in the sense that there are very few games worth playing released. I thought that the U.S. Dreamcast launch was done quite well, with games like NFL 2K, NBA 2K, Soul Calibur, Marvel Vs. Capcom, Ready 2 Rumble, NFL Blitz, House Of The Dead 2, Powerstone, Sonic Adventure, Hydro Thunder, etc. available. I don't know about the U.S. PSP launch, but I'd have to say that the Japanese PSP launch has a good line-up; I've already got five games (six is on the way!) for the system and all are quality titles.
Dude, use the QUOTE function. :lol
Angelus said:
Dude, use the QUOTE function. :lol
Unison said:
Yeah. Heh. Heh. Heh.
Well, yup, different strokes. For me, House of the Dead 2 was horrendous, Marvel Vs. Capcom was not special like Soul Calibur and Powerstone is overrated. That's my personal preference. And three of these games are fighting games, so then what happens to variety? Different types of fighting games, you say? True, but we're talking semantics now.
And yes, NFL 2k was ok. But I didn't include that because it was surpassed over and over again by future incarnations, so it hardly holds up anymore.
Amir0x said:
No. It simply refined the 3d fighting genre. I think Soul Calibur is the best game this gen, but at the same time I think you're overrating its impact.
I dont think Mercury could qualify, given Kirby TNT & don't see how Lumines qualifies (though I haven't played it & don't have a firm idea of how it plays... it seemed kind of typical of the puzzle genre when they played it in the Gamespot video).
Here's the DC launch lineup:
http://dreamcast.ign.com/articles/068/068557p1.html
There's a lot of crap games in there, but there are some true leaps. It certainly impressed me more than this PSP lineup seems to (withholding judgment, of course, until I actually play it & stuff).
Virgin Wii
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I think Sony's own developers are putting a lot of effort into these early PSP games. Not just the graphics, I think they really want to make these games worthwhile so the PSP can make a lasting impression. That's another reason to look forward to the PSP lauch titles... I think we may see the best titles in the franchises with games like Wipeout Pure and Twisted Metal.
Virgin Wii
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Amir0x said:
A poster who isn't anti-Sony and doesn't like GTA??? Now you're a poster I can get behind!
Unison said:
We're talking console-to-console. We're talking just coming from PSX/N64 era. The leap between the two are amazing. And this sort of arcade-perfect port of an already stellar fighting game was frankly unheard of, and it advanced the genre greatly.
Unison said:
Mercury's gameplay is noteworthy not because of some gimmicky tilt sensor which it is supposedly going to include. It's noteworthy because of the interesting affect the world has on the way you must navigate your blob through the maze. As a piece of liquid mercury you'll be constantly glopping apart and be forced to navigate multiple blobs or to change color of your blobs to do all sorts of crazy things. The gameplay is deceptively simple at first, but it reveals a much different thing then we have seen from this sort of game.
Lumines, well, it's different because of two reasons. One, this is a puzzle game built around a widescreen format so the puzzle field is widescreen length, which causes most gamers to have to rethink how they usually approach the game. Two, it's not as simple as just placing blocks together and them automatically clearing like in most games. This time you have to work with a scanline which clears the cubes you made, dynamically changing the music. The interest dynamic here is that you often must race against the scanline to place a block down to make something good happen. So this changes the way you play a puzzle game in many ways.
Unison said:
It's not like the console light gun galaxy is filled with many noteworthy titles. I mean, there have been a few... but none of them have been very good.
STILL waiting to read how Soul Calibur redefined the genre. 
The difference here is that those are the games that were released for the Dreamcast after the system had been available for nearly a year in Japan. U.S. Developers had a lot more time to have games ready for launch, and there were a number of games that were ready and just needed localization.
We also don't know what other games will be announced before the launch; a comparison should be done AFTER the PSP is released here.
Unison said:
The difference here is that those are the games that were released for the Dreamcast after the system had been available for nearly a year in Japan. U.S. Developers had a lot more time to have games ready for launch, and there were a number of games that were ready and just needed localization.
We also don't know what other games will be announced before the launch; a comparison should be done AFTER the PSP is released here.
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Is it confirmed that the PSP hardware has no region lock? I want Lumines! ;_;
kitchenmotors said:
According to Gamespot/IGN these games were being played on Japanese PSP units. I don't know if that's just these demos made region-free so they would work... but hey...
But it has been confirmed PSP is NOT region locked (for games) 6984398049393489 times before
Doom_Bringer
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kitchenmotors said:
There're one or two posters here who would explode on you for asking this question. :/
But for the most part, yes, it is confirmed.
kitchenmotors
Banned
RE4 vs. SH4 said:
I could care less who explodes, and if it's for my status, it's a freaking tag. And I haven't seen anything official about it, this is why I question the lock out.
Virgin Wii
Banned
I have no problem with it... I ask plenty of common knowledge questions here. Just wanted to give you fair warning.
kitchenmotors said:
...haven't...seen anything...OFFICIAL!??!??!
*head explodes*
But seriously. Nobody would explode because your "tag" is "Junior Member." They'd explode because this question was asked one billion times before.
Source1: IGN
Source2: Sony Chief Technology Officer Masa Chatani
Gamespot/Masa Chataini said:
Source3: Digital Backspin
Source4: Molly Smith of SCE of America/Ars Technica
Molly Smith said:
Source5: Gamesradar
Source6: Tiscalo.co.uk on what SCEE said about Region lock
David Reeves said:
See... plenty of official commentary