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Halo 3 had superb maps and weapon balance. No randomness from the bullet spread BR, yo.Kuroyume said:
They just need to make BTB more focused on CTF and Bomb. Weighting the various gametypes will do this, and make it so more Slayer games are less likely to show up based upon voting. Of the multiple opening voting selections, two should ALWAYS be Multi-CTF or 1-Flag, and another should ALWAYS be Neutral Bomb or 1-Bomb. They still neglect Multi-Bomb for some reason. That would slide well for Hemorrhage and Paradiso, I think.
People like playing slayer these days, and you even get people not playing the objective games right because they're too close minded to do the real goal at hand. There is regular Slayer, Snipers, Elite Slayer, and Headhunter qualifying for slayer oriented gametypes. Just a bit much, I think.
Totally missed the quick look at Anchor 9 this morning. Looks great.
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=29866
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=29866
squidhands
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sogood.gifGui_PT said:
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Tashi0106 said:
Likewise, it's also why they pick elite slayer.
Prepare to be disappointed, pretty half-baked (poached?) easter egg :lol
What about the "SHHHHHHHHH" whistling noise even though it's already landed right next to you and has by all approximation stopped traveling whatsoever, let alone at at speeds over 25mph? Every time I hear a grenade near me I think someone turned on a goddamn vacuum, it's so bad.
I understand it from a design standpoint, people are dying due to the explosion radius yet were not understanding their proximity to said damage - I just don't understand how that turns into a whistle of death that scales with the life of the grenade - not the speed or angle at which it travels.
Tashi0106 said:
What about the "SHHHHHHHHH" whistling noise even though it's already landed right next to you and has by all approximation stopped traveling whatsoever, let alone at at speeds over 25mph? Every time I hear a grenade near me I think someone turned on a goddamn vacuum, it's so bad.
I understand it from a design standpoint, people are dying due to the explosion radius yet were not understanding their proximity to said damage - I just don't understand how that turns into a whistle of death that scales with the life of the grenade - not the speed or angle at which it travels.
CrazedArabMan
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Raide said:
No, because I don't want to play score attack by myself with my headset on, bugs me having it on when I'm not really talking to anyone.
squidhands
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Nope, anything that you can just hold down on the trigger:ShinAmano said:
-Needler
-Plasma Rifle/Repeater
-Spiker
Shake Appeal
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Is it a known issue that people can get up on the cliff face of Asylum, or should I send a film to someone at Bungie?
Demoncarnotaur
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GhaleonEB said:
Awesome, I love the commentary. Its always nice to get an inside scoop on things. Also, as I was watching it I was thinking "This reminds me of The Pitt" and then they said how they were influenced by it. Its going to be great.
Spire has got to be the worst fucking map of all time, OF ALL TIME. Seriously Bungie you dropped the fucking ball on that one, from the design to the spawns, to the heavy presence of vehicles spawnfucking you left and right. Shittiest shit experience eve. As if that wasn't enough you then fucking make it into a territories game, are you out of your fucking mind!? Then you put the territories widely out into the open so people can get fucking sniped/stabbed/shot/bombed/turreted/splattered and its not like you can get any real cover while trying to take these shitty territories so your only hope is to purely outpower the enemy team. Shitty shit shitty, fuck this map.
electricpirate
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ShinAmano said:
AR, Plasma Repeater, Needler, probably spiker, but I haven't tried using that at all.
Anchor 9 looks great but I wonder how long it will take before people start complaining about the shield doors.
The commentary was sweet as well. It just reminded me that I still havent finished watching the Legendary Commentary to Reach on Waypoint. I might have to do that tonight.
The commentary was sweet as well. It just reminded me that I still havent finished watching the Legendary Commentary to Reach on Waypoint. I might have to do that tonight.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Plywood said:
The forge world maps are worse, Cage and all the other pieces of shit.
Spire is actually good so long as you know where the power weapons are and use them to take out vehicles.
That's another issue, the race to the power weapons/vehicles and once one team gets the power weapons/vehicles your pretty much fucked. It's hard to get to do anything when you spawn and your either in the sightlines of a sniper, banshee or Falcon.Alienshogun said:
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Plywood said:
On spire there is 1 sniper, one rocket on both sides, then one side gets a grenade launcher, and the other gets a fuel rod. (unless I haven't found the grenade launcher and fuel rod for the other sides.
There is no reason one team should be getting all the power weapons unless your team is all scrubs.
What makes me mad is when people pick up the power weapons (sniper included) and ignore the vehicles.
It may take 4 sniper rounds to kill a banshee, but those 4 rounds are better spent taking it out than getting 4 single kills.
MrBig said:I've been playing this game almost every other day for the past two months and the only map I know where all the spawns are at is Hemo
Yeah, add in the sniper lines of sight in Hemo, the open spawns and shitty spawns in the rest of the forge world maps, and all of those maps are pure shit.
I still can't believe they haven't been altered yet to "help" the situation.
The only forge world map I like is Asylum.
Epitaph was terrible for it, but was still bad without them. Snowbound was bad until it became Boundless, therefore at that point it at least became feasibly fun to an extent. I don't mind the outside space section, but the indoor shields just reek of roasting more marsh-mellows and hot dogs.Ramirez said:
You can pretty much locate the primary spawn locations in all team games, notably ones on large maps. This was done in Halo 2 and Halo 3, as well, nothing new.MrBig said:I've been playing this game almost every other day for the past two months and the only map I know where all the spawns are at is Hemo
I'm not getting a Pit vibe from that map at all, is this the same vibe that Zealot is supposed to give off of Midship? :lol
Is it possible to block the space part of the map off? I know you could do it with killzones or whatever, but can the shield doors be turned into those gold things from Halo 3 that wouldn't let you through?
Is it possible to block the space part of the map off? I know you could do it with killzones or whatever, but can the shield doors be turned into those gold things from Halo 3 that wouldn't let you through?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Ramirez said:
I think they just used it as an example of the type of map they wanted to make, that being a symmetrical one.
Then my team was made up of:Alienshogun said:
I still think the map is poorly designed, especially for territories with little to much cover and the spawns are a complete joke. Especially when they spawn you completely away from the Spire then they expect you to run all the way back to it without getting killed and even if you do make it back to the spire, you're going to get killed by something/someone. The last couple times that I had played on it were completely one sided, not a fun map.
Demoncarnotaur
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Ramirez said:
Dont ask, maybe it was the turrets. :lol
I dont feel like its a remake or anything like that...just shares some design aspects. Not enough to rule out a Pitt remake in a future map pack though. At least, I hope.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Tashi0106 said:
I think that's exactly what it is, that's the tracer that you see when it's thrown too I believe, the fuse burning.
While not "realistic," I've always assumed this is what it was, especially since a plasma grenade does not have the same sound.
Kuroyume said:
He's talking about the hiss from the grenade as it flies before it detonates, not the ringing in your ears from a close by explosion.
Yup. This was discussed by Sage on a podcast pre-Beta. People were complaining the frags were too over-powered, and one of the things they did was try to increase players awareness of them, making them easier to see and hear when they're nearby. The trail behind and the hissing were a result of that. Post-Beta they got their slight nerf in addition.Alienshogun said:
(Nades feel about right to me now - is that the consensus?)
GhaleonEB said:
Good lord no, they're still too powerful. I can't count the times I've had maybe one shot put on me and a nade kills me, not to mention they did nothing to stop the spamming of them, they're way too plentiful. Someone told me that if some are lying on the ground, and one goes off around them, they all go off, is that true?
Hydranockz
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Frankie makes too many threads in OT and not enough in Gaming.
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electricpirate
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Ramirez said:
No, just grenades that are in the air, which I believe is the same as Halo 3.
Shake Appeal
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Yeah, this is my issue. You go into a straight DMR duel, you land four shots, he lands maybe two, and just as you're getting the headshot he throws out a desperate grenade that you can't possibly dodge in a tight environment (unless you Armour Lololololock), and you trade kills.Ramirez said:
I think only having one on spawn in the December Arena will be interesting.
I think I said before there should be bonus for every four dailies you pick up in a given week, so you get +1,000, +2,500, +5,000, +7,500, +10,000, +12,500, +15,000 throughout the week, for a total ~50K potential bonus over the course of a week if you pick up all 28.Raide said:
I mean you've got the hooks there, why not twist them?
timetokill
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I don't think nades are too powerful, they're just too plentiful
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
GhaleonEB said:
As long as armor lock is available I have no problem with them, but I have the "melee" feeling about them. If you have shields they should drop shields, if you don't they should kill you.
Right now if you stand on one when it blows up you're toast, and like Ram said, there are just too many of them.
Ramirez said:
Yep, but it's always been like that, in Reach you can actually shoot them to detonate them, even ones that have been tossed.
In Ghaleons videos he posted he even shoots a sticky as it's being thrown at him.
electricpirate said:
No, I'm pretty sure if one goes off on the ground near others, they all go off. I know for a fact it happens in firefight, and I know for a fact in Matchmaking if you shoot one thrown or laying on the ground it will detonate too.
bobs...onGaf
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With Reach I find the way people use nades make them especially annoying to die to. They no longer really bounce, and for some other reasons I cant quite put my finger on they seem a lot less accurate, nade placement seems non existant so most people just spam them brute force.
You dont get people using them to strip shields so they can hit you with a headshot as much as you see whole teams spamming all theyre nades at you at once. I know they added those sound effects and stuff to help with nade awareness, but I tend to find it hard to know exactly where it landed and so im finding myself '1 shotted' by nades a bit too often for my liking. Hell even if I know where the thing is gonna land, if im not using the right armour ability im kinda screwed if a whole team spams them.
You can die in 1 nade if you havent got full shields or full health right? This is pretty bad because I could be just missing 1 bar of health or I could just be a slither away from a full shield bar, and 1 nade could kill me. RAAAAGE.
You dont get people using them to strip shields so they can hit you with a headshot as much as you see whole teams spamming all theyre nades at you at once. I know they added those sound effects and stuff to help with nade awareness, but I tend to find it hard to know exactly where it landed and so im finding myself '1 shotted' by nades a bit too often for my liking. Hell even if I know where the thing is gonna land, if im not using the right armour ability im kinda screwed if a whole team spams them.
You can die in 1 nade if you havent got full shields or full health right? This is pretty bad because I could be just missing 1 bar of health or I could just be a slither away from a full shield bar, and 1 nade could kill me. RAAAAGE.
Thagomizer
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Letters said:
And it will be poop. Good luck making something like BoB in the Halo universe. It will just be silly.
electricpirate
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Alienshogun said:
the last part is correct, but I just tested it in a custom game, and nope. and nades won't detonate other nades that are on the ground.
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