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All things considered, Nintendo had a pretty solid lineup at E3.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say it was one of their stronger showings in recent years.
 

LordRaptor

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Friends, I learned something today.

Major entities that aren't scared of the competition:

Apple
Sony
Kanye West

Major entities that are fucking SCARED:

Nintendo

Maybe "E3 2006 Giant Enemy Crab Five-hundred-and-ninety-nine-us-dollah get a second job riiiiiiidge racer" Sony weren't scared of the competition and didn't give a shit what they did, but modern "more xbox than the xbox" Sony?
 
All things considered, Nintendo had a pretty solid lineup at E3.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say it was one of their stronger showings in recent years.

Yes, when Nintendo did e3 this year it was crazy amazing. I could only picture e3 2017 with NX/3DS...I think the last Wii U game is Zelda so maybe no Wii U at e3 2017.
 
I've been looking, but where was Nintendo's Wii U conference in the fall of 2012? Check the location for reservation availability to see if it's booked...

Lol, sorry that's a little much, plus at this point I'm sure whichever venue/hotel is already booked for several events.
 

Retrobox

Member
I wasn't around GAF before E3 2016. What were the sentiments regarding Nintendo's E3 strategy when they announced no digital event?

I mean, it must have been 80% "Nintendoomed" and 20% "Z-Zelda hype I guess?" , right?
 

MuchoMalo

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I had my doubt before, but after E3 2016, I believe Nintendo knows what they are doing. Let's see if they can wait for the best possible timing to reveal it.

The thing is that I'm not sure if there is an ideal time anymore. Before TGS? Compting with Sony for attention. After TGS but still in September? Risk distraction from 3DS. Same for October, along with competing with the PSVR launch for attention. November means competing with themselves with Pokemon. December is just awkward. January is probably too late. I think the second half of September is all that really makes sense, but time is running low if they want press hands-on at the same time.

IMO, best case realistically is that Nintendo will give us a date on the 20th and that date will be the 29th.
 

Kyzer

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I wasn't around GAF before E3 2016. What were the sentiments regarding Nintendo's E3 strategy when they announced no digital event?

I mean, it must have been 80% "Nintendoomed" and 20% "Z-Zelda hype I guess?" , right?

yeah that is pretty much it
 

maxcriden

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The thing is that I'm not sure if there is an ideal time anymore. Before TGS? Compting with Sony for attention. After TGS but still in September? Risk distraction from 3DS. Same for October, along with competing with the PSVR launch for attention. November means competing with themselves with Pokemon. December is just awkward. January is probably too late. I think the second half of September is all that really makes sense, but time is running low if they want press hands-on at the same time.

IMO, best case realistically is that Nintendo will give us a date on the 20th and that date will be the 29th.

Time isn't necessarily running low for press hands-on if they already got invites but are embargo'd from telling us. I don't know about the second half of September or the month of October risking distraction from 3DS any more than right now would be. I think it is safe to assume by all the information we have that an announcement is coming this or next month.
 
All things considered, Nintendo had a pretty solid lineup at E3.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say it was one of their stronger showings in recent years.

I know it's crazy to only really focus on one game at E3 this year...but to be frank, I don't really blame them.

That was the issue with E3 2015. Most of their main development teams were moving on from the Wii U/3DS so really Nintendo just didn't really have anything to show. They basically threw together a bunch of crappy spinoffs like Mario Tennis, MP Federation Force, and Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival just to keep us distracted.

So yes, I'd rather them show off one really good looking game instead of a bunch of mediocre looking ones, while they prepare for their NX stuff later in the year.
 
The thing is that I'm not sure if there is an ideal time anymore. Before TGS? Compting with Sony for attention. After TGS but still in September? Risk distraction from 3DS. Same for October, along with competing with the PSVR launch for attention. November means competing with themselves with Pokemon. December is just awkward. January is probably too late. I think the second half of September is all that really makes sense, but time is running low if they want press hands-on at the same time.

IMO, best case realistically is that Nintendo will give us a date on the 20th and that date will be the 29th.

I don't personally think that any of the things you mentioned above will compete for attention with the NX. Based on the rumors we've seen, Nintendo doesn't plan to compete with either the PS4 or PSVR. I also don't think NX will compete with 3DS unless they somehow plan to port all the 3DS games launching this fall to the NX.

I do agree with you in that I don't see Nintendo giving a ton of lead time between the announcement and the reveal. They have plenty of time between now and when NX is supposed to launch. They can milk that for all it's worth.
 

Anth0ny

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I'd put it third after 2010 and 2014, which were both awesome.

me too

all those other years were the shits, though. which is why it's not saying much.

2011 - painful wii u unveiling
2012 - painful wii u unveiling part 2
2013 - 3d world and tropical freeze disappointment ton, played second fiddle that year to the god tier january nintendo direct
2015 - we give up on wii u, here's a bunch of spinoffs no one asked for
 

MuchoMalo

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I don't personally think that any of the things you mentioned above will compete for attention with the NX. Based on the rumors we've seen, Nintendo doesn't plan to compete with either the PS4 or PSVR. I also don't think NX will compete with 3DS unless they somehow plan to port all the 3DS games launching this fall to the NX.

I do agree with you in that I don't see Nintendo giving a ton of lead time between the announcement and the reveal. They have plenty of time between now and when NX is supposed to launch. They can milk that for all it's worth.

It doesn't matter who they plan to compete with. The same media will be covering it all. The gaming media is going to care more about Neo's pretty graphics than NX if we're realistic.
 

maxcriden

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I'd put it third after 2010 and 2014, which were both awesome.

2013 was terrific as well, with
◾Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3DS
◾Mario Kart 8
◾Super Mario 3D World
◾Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze
◾The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
shown off, and much more.

I know 3DW and TF got undeservedly tepid reactions from many at the time -- and I was personally mixed on 3DW, eager but apprehensive, and then Nintendo showed me how ridiculous I was (yet again) to doubt their software -- so looking back you can see even more so what a great conf. that was.

P.S. This quote from HuffPo's 2012 recap stuck out at me:

Correction Notice: In an earlier version of this article Shigero Miyamoto’s name was misspelled. This has been corrected.
 
People care about PSVR?

I mean its a cool gimmick, but its still a gimmick that lacks any killer apps. People complain about Nintendo's gimmicks, but at least they don't cost you 400 dollars...

Anyway I don't see PSVR causing Nintendo any trouble.
 
People care about PSVR?

I mean its a cool gimmick, but its still a gimmick that lacks any killer apps. People complain about Nintendo's gimmicks, but at least they don't cost you 400 dollars...

Anyway I don't see PSVR causing Nintendo any trouble.

People care about PSVR because it's a cool gimmick that doesn't get in the way. It's not a part of the system, so it won't be shoehorned into the average game, and it also doesn't add cost to your system unless you specifically want to pay for it.
 

maxcriden

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me too

all those other years were the shits, though. which is why it's not saying much.

2011 - painful wii u unveiling
2012 - painful wii u unveiling part 2
2013 - 3d world and tropical freeze disappointment ton, played second fiddle that year to the god tier january nintendo direct
2015 - we give up on wii u, here's a bunch of spinoffs no one asked for

2011 - also saw Luigi's Mansion 2, MK7, Kirby RTDL.
2013 - see my post above, and also, I think you not liking 3DW or TF doesn't make it a bad E3, those games are critically well reviewed; my not caring about Bayonetta and Smash doesn't make E3s centered on those games objectively bad E3s
2015 - middling for me personally, but I'll say people who like SFZ love it, I was psyched about M&L Paper Jam, TFH ended up being terrific despite some inherent flaws, Super Mario Maker was shown off in more detail, overall not a bad E3

It doesn't matter who they plan to compete with. The same media will be covering it all. The gaming media is going to care more about Neo's pretty graphics than NX if we're realistic.

If it's any consolation, new 3DS games barely get "hype" coverage beyond announcement, sometimes previews, and then reviews.
 

Sadist

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Don't do this.
Well he's not wrong; mind you I believe Bethesda will not release one single game on the system, but this is one of the first times I see someone from Bethesda talking about the Nintendo demographic and not actively dismiss it from the get go. It's progress I guess.
 

MuchoMalo

Banned
If it's any consolation, new 3DS games barely get "hype" coverage beyond announcement, sometimes previews, and then reviews.

Other than Pokemon, I consider 3DS less of a risk which is why late September is probably best. Late October would be a huge mistake imo due to PSVR getting ridiculous amounts of coverage on top of there still being tons of Neo-releated dev interviews.
 
I just hope they learned their lesson with the Wii U and don't make the same mistakes again..

I hope they learned their lesson with the n64....
As primarily a handheld (as it says in the title), I don't think a lot of the issues apply.
N64's primary concern was storage space and Wii U's was...well a lot of things including a poor image, lack of power, high price due to gamepad, Nintendo's inexperience with HD, among others.
I don't think these will be much of an issue, don't think people expect that much from handhelds, Vita and 3DS didn't get many PS360 ports while they were still relevant and no one batted an eye. Nintendo marketed the Wii U at the beginning as finally the Nintendo system that will get all of the 3rd party software and Nintendo's great 1st party so games skipping out on a Wii U release hurt it quite a bit.
The software issues should also be fixed by combining all of their first party efforts into one platform. Their HD experience, tools, and assets gained during the Wii U's life should also aid in this since most of that can be used without major alterations unlike Wii->Wii U.
This latest Bethesda interview seems positive for the NX. Looks like he's under NDA and he isn't being negative of Nintendo.
I'm not too sure, he also said it was a tech limitation and if those limits weren't there then they would try. I guess it's weird to say when he apparently already knows, but it'll probably be able to be viewed negatively once the NX is revealed and they don't make anything for it.
 

Retrobox

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As primarily a handheld (as it says in the title), I don't think a lot of the issues apply.
N64's primary concern was storage space and Wii U's was...well a lot of things including a poor image, lack of power, high price due to gamepad, Nintendo's inexperience with HD, among others.
I don't think these will be much of an issue, don't think people expect that much from handhelds, Vita and 3DS didn't get many PS360 ports while they were still relevant and no one batted an eye. Nintendo marketed the Wii U at the beginning as finally the Nintendo system that will get all of the 3rd party software and Nintendo's great 1st party so games skipping out on a Wii U release hurt it quite a bit.
The software issues should also be fixed by combining all of their first party efforts into one platform. Their HD experience, tools, and assets gained during the Wii U's life should also aid in this since most of that can be used without major alterations unlike Wii->Wii U.

And this is precisely why I think the NX has a good shot at being awesome. It's up to Nintendo to make the most out of whatever the NX is.
 

TheMoon

Member
This latest Bethesda interview seems positive for the NX. Looks like he's under NDA and he isn't being negative of Nintendo.

The safe call is to ignore everything he says entirely. It means nothing. Because he literally said nothing about it.

I'm not too sure, he also said it was a tech limitation and if those limits weren't there then they would try. I guess it's weird to say when he apparently already knows, but it'll probably be able to be viewed negatively once the NX is revealed and they don't make anything for it.

Exactly, that's why when the tech is tehre, they bring the games. As evidenced by those glorious Wii U versions of Alien: Isolation and The Evil Within. Oh wait. :D
 
2013 - see my post above, and also, I think you not liking 3DW or TF doesn't make it a bad E3, those games are critically well reviewed; my not caring about Bayonetta and Smash doesn't make E3s centered on those games objectively bad E3s

The games shown at E3 2013 may have ended up great, but they didn't show well in their reveal trailers. If I remember correctly, 3D World didn't look good until its September trailer.
 
It doesn't matter who they plan to compete with. The same media will be covering it all. The gaming media is going to care more about Neo's pretty graphics than NX if we're realistic.

I'm not really sure what you're implying here. Most gaming media outlets don't have just one employee who will have to choose between covering the NX and PS NEO. The news that an outlet "cares" most about is determined by their readers/viewers, not their own personal opinions. Unless that audience shows little to no interest in the NX, you'll see plenty of coverage.
 
And this is precisely why I think the NX has a good shot at being awesome. It's up to Nintendo to make the most out of whatever the NX is.
I think it will be great because the gimmick is just local multiplayer pn every console and it will have a regular console so nintendo will not have to force a stupid gimmick on everygame.
 

AdanVC

Member
I feel so indifferent with Nintendo right now. They're probably working their asses off to don't mess up the reveal of NX like they did with Wii U but man, the radio silence has reached ridiculous status. Now even with some rumors pointing that the reveal might not happen this month but until freaking october... Even a teaser or a random tweet by Nintendo saying: "Something is coming", you know, ANYTHING silly like that would be enough right now just to know that at least this is on the right track and is indeed coming...
 
Now even with some rumors pointing that the reveal might not happen this month but until freaking october...

I haven't yet seen any rumors that says October though. I've seen people saying ridiculous things, but not rumors.
Most rumors talks September.

We know Nintendo intends to reveal it this Fall (which was edited to "by the end of the year") according to Nintendo of Canada.
 
I feel so indifferent with Nintendo right now. They're probably working their asses off to don't mess up the reveal of NX like they did with Wii U but man, the radio silence has reached ridiculous status. Now even with some rumors pointing that the reveal might not happen this month but until freaking october... Even a teaser or a random tweet by Nintendo saying: "Something is coming", you know, ANYTHING silly like that would be enough right now just to know that at least this is on the right track and is indeed coming...

But on the other hand, a new Animal Crossing amiibo announcement video featuring a Reggie and Bill video wearing humorous costumes could be EVEN BETTER than a console reveal.
 
I wasn't around GAF before E3 2016. What were the sentiments regarding Nintendo's E3 strategy when they announced no digital event?

I mean, it must have been 80% "Nintendoomed" and 20% "Z-Zelda hype I guess?" , right?

I was like both at the same time. It was strange.
 

maxcriden

Member
Other than Pokemon, I consider 3DS less of a risk which is why late September is probably best. Late October would be a huge mistake imo due to PSVR getting ridiculous amounts of coverage on top of there still being tons of Neo-releated dev interviews.

That makes sense. I agree with you and am expecting pretty much the same.
 

AfroDust

Member
LOL! This is the power Nintendo has over us all, this is hell, Waiting for NX doomed to never know a single thing about it.

Maybe the NX is actually just a social experiment. In which case, it's technically already been revealed. We're all technically "playing" it right now.
 

Peltz

Member
With a resolution of 720p I have to wonder if Nintendo will actually bother to start using Anti Aliasing in their games on the NX.

If the Dock doesn't provide extra power to scale games up to 1080p than 720p resolution is fine but I'd the dock DOES provide extra power than I would have strongly preferred 540p instead because that would have upscaled to 1080p more nicely.


6.2 is kinda huge for a portable device it's reaching tablet territory.
Power isn't really needed to upscale games. Uprendering and upscaling are two different things.

Wii U upscaled 720p to 1080p by default. Most HDTVs also have this functionality built in.

Uprendering doesn't rely on cleanly divisible integers, so creating a 720p and 1080p build shouldn't be a big deal for most devs.
 
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