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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock

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joseotero

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Obviously a ninja made you say that.


I doubt this changes much, I'm still expecting late September-October for the reveal. Maybe it would be a good time to announce the reveal tomorrow or next week though.

If you look at my twitter feed, I don't really complain much about ANYTHING there. I use IGN and our show for commentary. Just saying.
 

Pinky

Banned
Nintendo right now:

ry%3D400
 

Thraktor

Member
For everyone on the "if they don't announce it immediately, then it can't come out in March" brigade, I feel it's worth pointing out that Sony just announced a new console 2 months before it hits stores. Yes, it's a bit different in that the PS4P isn't a full new generation, but I think it's time to accept that you just don't need that much time to make everyone aware of your new games hardware. You'll probably want to avoid waiting until a month before release to prevent leaks from your distribution network (see PS4S), but really there's not much stopping Nintendo from doing the same and announcing the thing in January.

Not necessarily that I expect that to happen, as they may want to announce before the holidays to get people to pop down a pre-order rather than spending all their money this Christmas, but we could just be looking at a Sept/Oct Direct showing off the hardware and a quick sizzle-reel of games, then an actual press hands-on in January, closer to launch.
 

Rodin

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Mark Cerny did a great job at presenting the PS4 Pro features, I can definitely pressure for Nintendo with the NX.

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For everyone on the "if they don't announce it immediately, then it can't come out in March" brigade, I feel it's worth pointing out that Sony just announced a new console 2 months before it hits stores. Yes, it's a bit different in that the PS4P isn't a full new generation, but I think it's time to accept that you just don't need that much time to make everyone aware of your new games hardware. You'll probably want to avoid waiting until a month before release to prevent leaks from your distribution network (see PS4S), but really there's not much stopping Nintendo from doing the same and announcing the thing in January.

Not necessarily that I expect that to happen, as they may want to announce before the holidays to get people to pop down a pre-order rather than spending all their money this Christmas, but we could just be looking at a Sept/Oct Direct showing off the hardware and a quick sizzle-reel of games, then an actual press hands-on in January, closer to launch.

Yep, overreactions and stuff. I do expect them to announce it soon though.
 
If you look at my twitter feed, I don't really complain much about ANYTHING there. I use IGN and our show for commentary. Just saying.

Oh I was completely joking, sorry! I figure either we'll hear about an event from journalists at l east a week before an event or otherwise there won't be a press hands on at the same time as the event.
 

Oregano

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For everyone on the "if they don't announce it immediately, then it can't come out in March" brigade, I feel it's worth pointing out that Sony just announced a new console 2 months before it hits stores. Yes, it's a bit different in that the PS4P isn't a full new generation, but I think it's time to accept that you just don't need that much time to make everyone aware of your new games hardware. You'll probably want to avoid waiting until a month before release to prevent leaks from your distribution network (see PS4S), but really there's not much stopping Nintendo from doing the same and announcing the thing in January.

Not necessarily that I expect that to happen, as they may want to announce before the holidays to get people to pop down a pre-order rather than spending all their money this Christmas, but we could just be looking at a Sept/Oct Direct showing off the hardware and a quick sizzle-reel of games, then an actual press hands-on in January, closer to launch.

Yes they announced the new PS4 Pro with a whopping 0 new games. I assume Nintendo will aim to beat that.

Not to mention all the new innovative features like uhh... Netflix in 4K?

The situations are not comparable at all.
 

Dystify

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For everyone on the "if they don't announce it immediately, then it can't come out in March" brigade, I feel it's worth pointing out that Sony just announced a new console 2 months before it hits stores. Yes, it's a bit different in that the PS4P isn't a full new generation, but I think it's time to accept that you just don't need that much time to make everyone aware of your new games hardware. You'll probably want to avoid waiting until a month before release to prevent leaks from your distribution network (see PS4S), but really there's not much stopping Nintendo from doing the same and announcing the thing in January.

Not necessarily that I expect that to happen, as they may want to announce before the holidays to get people to pop down a pre-order rather than spending all their money this Christmas, but we could just be looking at a Sept/Oct Direct showing off the hardware and a quick sizzle-reel of games, then an actual press hands-on in January, closer to launch.

Yeah, times have definitely changed. The same is happening with a lot of games. They're not announcing them 2~3 years before release anymore, but rather just a few months. News spread much faster nowadays.
 
For everyone on the "if they don't announce it immediately, then it can't come out in March" brigade, I feel it's worth pointing out that Sony just announced a new console 2 months before it hits stores. Yes, it's a bit different in that the PS4P isn't a full new generation, but I think it's time to accept that you just don't need that much time to make everyone aware of your new games hardware. You'll probably want to avoid waiting until a month before release to prevent leaks from your distribution network (see PS4S), but really there's not much stopping Nintendo from doing the same and announcing the thing in January.

Not necessarily that I expect that to happen, as they may want to announce before the holidays to get people to pop down a pre-order rather than spending all their money this Christmas, but we could just be looking at a Sept/Oct Direct showing off the hardware and a quick sizzle-reel of games, then an actual press hands-on in January, closer to launch.


There's a huge difference between revisions and entirely new platforms.
 

Vena

Member
Well. Oregano should be happy! No mystery Vita or even a refresh of any sort.

And that conference had as much life in it as my dog (RIP, two months ago), and the perplexing decision to not even have a UHD BR player for the Pro.

Nintendo can just take their sweet ass time now. Mario at the Olympics and now Mario at Apple Presser is some of the best marketing you could ask for... to then use Mario to herald in your new platform!
 

Kinsei

Banned
Yeah, times have definitely changed. The same is happening with a lot of games. They're not announcing them 2~3 years before release anymore, but rather just a few months. News spread much faster nowadays.

It is nice. It's too bad they announced the NX over a year ago and still haven't shown it.
 
For everyone on the "if they don't announce it immediately, then it can't come out in March" brigade, I feel it's worth pointing out that Sony just announced a new console 2 months before it hits stores. Yes, it's a bit different in that the PS4P isn't a full new generation, but I think it's time to accept that you just don't need that much time to make everyone aware of your new games hardware. You'll probably want to avoid waiting until a month before release to prevent leaks from your distribution network (see PS4S), but really there's not much stopping Nintendo from doing the same and announcing the thing in January.

Not necessarily that I expect that to happen, as they may want to announce before the holidays to get people to pop down a pre-order rather than spending all their money this Christmas, but we could just be looking at a Sept/Oct Direct showing off the hardware and a quick sizzle-reel of games, then an actual press hands-on in January, closer to launch.

The problem is
A) This is Nintendos future cornerstone product
B) Nintendo said they're going to reveal it this year
C) Nintendo of Canada president said this fall
D) Emily said Nintendo is ahead of schedule
 

Oregano

Member
Well. Oregano should be happy!

No mystery Vita or even a refresh of any sort.

And that conference had as much life in it as my dog (RIP, two months ago), and the perplexing decision to not even have a UHD BR player for the Pro.

Nintendo can just take their sweet ass time now.

Wait why should I be happy?

A new Vita would have added some life to Sony's snoozefest of a conference.
 

daakusedo

Member
Just to let you know that the mario sports superstars nx rumour was not one but speculation. Don't know if he's backtracking but yeah, whatever.
 
For everyone on the "if they don't announce it immediately, then it can't come out in March" brigade, I feel it's worth pointing out that Sony just announced a new console 2 months before it hits stores. Yes, it's a bit different in that the PS4P isn't a full new generation, but I think it's time to accept that you just don't need that much time to make everyone aware of your new games hardware.
That's been going on for mid-generation new hardware forever, though. Pretty sure GBASP wasn't revealed until January 2003 and started selling February 2003, for instance. Or New 3DS announced late August 2014 and released early October 2014.
 

Thraktor

Member
Yes they announced the new PS4 Pro with a whopping 0 new games. I assume Nintendo will aim to beat that.

Not to mention all the new innovative features like uhh... Netflix in 4K?

The situations are not comparable at all.

There's a huge difference between revisions and entirely new platforms.

But why aren't they comparable? What exactly about a new console launch means people need an entire 6 months to digest maybe an hour and a half long unveiling?
 
Just to let you know that the mario sports superstars nx rumour was not one but speculation. Don't know if he's backtracking but yeah, whatever.
Nico is saying he's only speculating now? He needs to make sure he knows what he's saying and to be clear with it from the beginning lol
 

Anth0ny

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For everyone on the "if they don't announce it immediately, then it can't come out in March" brigade, I feel it's worth pointing out that Sony just announced a new console 2 months before it hits stores. Yes, it's a bit different in that the PS4P isn't a full new generation, but I think it's time to accept that you just don't need that much time to make everyone aware of your new games hardware. You'll probably want to avoid waiting until a month before release to prevent leaks from your distribution network (see PS4S), but really there's not much stopping Nintendo from doing the same and announcing the thing in January.

Not necessarily that I expect that to happen, as they may want to announce before the holidays to get people to pop down a pre-order rather than spending all their money this Christmas, but we could just be looking at a Sept/Oct Direct showing off the hardware and a quick sizzle-reel of games, then an actual press hands-on in January, closer to launch.

exactly.

nx january reveal is happening, friends.
 

Oregano

Member
You were dreading its mystery reveal, admit it!

I don't think my mind could have handled the hype is all.;)

I actually would have been interested in seeing similarly powered handhelds going head to head. Higher specs were the PSP's and Vita's selling points.
 

Dystify

Member
Just to let you know that the mario sports superstars nx rumour was not one but speculation. Don't know if he's backtracking but yeah, whatever.

Kinda expected that. I'll leave it on the list for a while longer. Maybe he'll say something more clear soon.

It is nice. It's too bad they announced the NX over a year ago and still haven't shown it.

Yeah but right now NX is nothing but a name. The real announcement is when they reveal it to the public.
 
But why aren't they comparable? What exactly about a new console launch means people need an entire 6 months to digest maybe an hour and a half long unveiling?
For one thing, a new platform means new games. If publishers really only wanted new games to be shown 1-2 months before release, they've been going against their better wishes for a long time.
 

Oregano

Member
But why aren't they comparable? What exactly about a new console launch means people need an entire 6 months to digest maybe an hour and a half long unveiling?

Because they need to announce a whole line up of games and all their features. Third parties also need a chance to sell their games. If you're not called Capcom, Square Enix or Namco you're probably not getting a spot in NX's unveil.

Software still tends to be announced a few months in advance. Nintendo generally has the shortest turnaround and even they rarely announce big new games less than three months before release.
 

Thraktor

Member
For one thing, a new platform means new games. If publishers really only wanted new games to be shown 1-2 months before release, they've been going against their better wishes for a long time.

But unveil->launch times for games have been coming down quite a lot over the last few years. As an example, Nintendo just announced Mario Maker for 3DS just a couple of months before it releases, and that's likely to be their second-biggest selling title this Christmas.
 

Oregano

Member
But unveil->launch times for games have been coming down quite a lot over the last few years. As an example, Nintendo just announced Mario Maker for 3DS just a couple of months before it releases, and that's likely to be their second-biggest selling title this Christmas.

It's also a port of an existing game.
 
It is nice. It's too bad they announced the NX over a year ago and still haven't shown it.

Imagine if Iwata had never announced NX last year.

Now, imagine the Apple conference today under those circumstances.

Yeah, kind of makes sense why he did what he did in 2015.
 
But why aren't they comparable? What exactly about a new console launch means people need an entire 6 months to digest maybe an hour and a half long unveiling?

Mid-Gen refresh hardware doesn't impact the marketing cycle of its software library, since by their nature they play games that can run on pre-existing hardware.

All new consoles run their own software, which means publishers can't start marketing the games until the hardware is shown.


Also, there's a lot more to break down on a new console than on a new model of an existing console. How does the OS work? What about the store? What is the online ecosystem like? What apps will run on this? Can I transfer old purchases? A refresh system keeps the old hardware's software, so there's much less to explain.
 

ASIS

Member
But unveil->launch times for games have been coming down quite a lot over the last few years. As an example, Nintendo just announced Mario Maker for 3DS just a couple of months before it releases, and that's likely to be their second-biggest selling title this Christmas.

They probably don't need a year or even 8 months anymore, that much is true. But if they want to build excitement and get people talking they would need longer than 2 months as well. For instance, if Xbox One was announced merely 2 months before release it would have been deemed a flop a long time ago. They need feedback and they need to make sure their message reaches every potential consumer, and that includes people who are not into video games.

In short, I agree that a september/october reveal seems like the best time for an unveil. With a press event coming a little bit later. That's fine.
 

blu

Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
It is nice. It's too bad they announced the NX over a year ago and still haven't shown it.
A new product is shown in relation to its planned release, not in relation to when it was first mentioned/hinted at. Nintendo can unveil the NX anytime between now and Dec'16/Jan '17. If they decided to do it today by 1800 pacific, that'd be because of their internal reasons (which we may or may not possibly be aware of). Yes, .5y advance has been the norm so far for new platforms, as it gives all involved parties time to up-shift their own marketing campaigns. But there's nothing that actually mandates that - nintendo could be working with 3rd parties on a focused campaign that starts on Dec 1st, and released a Direct per week all through the holidays if they deemed that beneficial. That said, I personally don't expect them to do so, but claiming some logic dictates they did the unveiling ASAP is just hot air.
 

Bko

Member
But unveil->launch times for games have been coming down quite a lot over the last few years. As an example, Nintendo just announced Mario Maker for 3DS just a couple of months before it releases, and that's likely to be their second-biggest selling title this Christmas.

Another iteration within a product line is not the same as a completely new product line. Think of the newest iPhone vs 'iTV' or anything Apple comes up with next. Plus Nintendo needs to communicate why you shouldn't spend all your money during this holiday on a PS4 Pro/Slim and instead wait 4 months for their product.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
Nintendo is now in a better position than it seemed at the beginning of the week. Hopefully they don't flop it.

And I'm now convinced that they should avoid a live press conference at all costs. Direct & Treehouse and separate press hands-on is the ideal way.

Also seeing how Sony barely managed to squeeze a rather minimal upgrade for $399 and a huge TDP I hope the dreamers about Polaris on NX take a bit of a step back now.
 
You guys think the PS Meeting was bad

Imagine something similar but with a bunch of non-native English speakers on stage.

There's a reason Nintendo opts for Directs and Digital Events these days and it's not simply because "omg they're so cheap"
 

Snakeyes

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You guys think the PS Meeting was bad

Imagine something similar but with a bunch of non-native English speakers on stage.

There's a reason Nintendo opts for Directs and Digital Events these days and it's not simply because "omg they're so cheap"

Why not just have Bill and the Treehouse folks do most of the presentation?
 
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