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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock

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ASIS

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I don't understand you guys.

We already know NX is coming in March, and we live in the era of Apple where a product doesn't need to be announced for very long before release.

Why so impatient?

You do realize that, if the initial plans were followed, we should have been getting the NX 2 months from now. That's just crazy to think about. And yet we still have no clue what it is. So, to answer your question, why not be impatient?
 

Anth0ny

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I don't understand you guys.

We already know NX is coming in March, and we live in the era of Apple where a product doesn't need to be announced for very long before release.

Why so impatient?

yep.

like I keep saying, the great majority of people buying this thing won't be exposed to NX when it's first revealed via press conference to all the nerds online.

it'll be when it pops up on ellen or jimmy fallon two weeks before it comes out. or in the wal mart catalog in november when mom is doing her christmas shopping. or hell, if nintendo actually decides to advertise the thing on TV with commercials that aren't terrible.
 

NateDrake

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You do realize that, if the initial plans were followed, we should have been getting the NX 2 months from now. That's just crazy to think about. And yet we still have no clue what it is. So, to answer your question, why not be impatient?

Who said it was ever planned to release in Nov. 2016?
 
yep.

like I keep saying, the great majority of people buying this thing won't be exposed to NX when it's first revealed via press conference to all the nerds online.

it'll be when it pops up on ellen or jimmy fallon two weeks before it comes out. or in the wal mart catalog in november when mom is doing her christmas shopping. or hell, if nintendo actually decides to advertise the thing on TV with commercials that aren't terrible.
I don't give a shit about it from a business perspective, I just want to see SOMETHING concerning the system and its games.
I care about me.
 

Malus

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Who said it was ever planned to release in Nov. 2016?

Since it's never been confirmed it can't be called a delay. But them announcing a 2016 release date for Zelda during a late 2015 direct, then delaying it for 2017 when the NX's march 2017 release date came up just a few months later sure makes me think that way.
 
well

yeah, me too

i'm just trying to explain why nintendo probably doesn't give a shit about unveiling so "close" to launch.

The system is launching in March.

You kind of need to give people enough time to budget for a $200+ entertainment purchase accordingly right after the holidays. So, Nintendo should probably get on that reveal by November.
 

120v

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Nintendo doesn't have a consistent brand that they can use for the NX like how Sony & Microsoft have PlayStation & Xbox, so they need the time to engrain the idea that the new system is a Nintendo system in the minds of consumers. Not to mention that Nintendo's coming off of an all-time low concerning their consoles.

Nintendo needs all the time that they can get. 5-6 months is around a reasonable amount of time to do so.

i'd argue "nintendo" is a consistent brand

you of course can't reveal a console too late, especially with core gamers but if the concept is appealing consumers at large will buy it whether it's revealed tomorrow or Feb 28
 

udivision

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Since it's never been confirmed it can't be called a delay. But them announcing a 2016 release date for Zelda during a late 2015 direct, then delaying it for 2017 when the NX's march 2017 release date came up just a few months later sure makes me think that way.

Yeah. Them saying "we need to make sure we have enough software ready for launch" as a justification for not launching before the holidays, and also announcing that a major game was being delayed and ported to NX makes it all pretty obvious.
 
It's also probably that:

1) The games haven't been ready to show
2) They're super worried about a Wii U repeat of a year+ wait after reveal
3) The NX will likely play Nintendo's iOS games so having, you know, famous and popular iOS games will make that reveal make more sense
4) The Wii U has no winter so they're not distracting from anything there but they also have to be real careful now not to distract from Sun/Moon
 
It's also probably that:

1) The games haven't been ready to show
2) They're super worried about a Wii U repeat of a year+ wait after reveal
3) The NX will likely play Nintendo's iOS games so having, you know, famous and popular iOS games will make that reveal make more sense
4) The Wii U has no winter so they're not distracting from anything there but they also have to be real careful now not to distract from Sun/Moon

The only way this thing doesn't distract from Sun and Moon in some way is if they decide to reveal it in January.

Man, that would be colossally stupid. Unless they're going ham on the tax refund crowd.

I do think a reveal as late as mid-October is fine. Heck, they could probably get away with early November.
 

Vena

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It's also probably that:

1) The games haven't been ready to show
2) They're super worried about a Wii U repeat of a year+ wait after reveal
3) The NX will likely play Nintendo's iOS games so having, you know, famous and popular iOS games will make that reveal make more sense
4) The Wii U has no winter so they're not distracting from anything there but they also have to be real careful now not to distract from Sun/Moon

I think (1.) and (3.) are the big ones, they want to have a huge line-up to show off out of the gate. Maybe they'll even take a page out of Sony's book and announce games they soft-canceled a decade ago and start a Kickstarter.
 
If game freak is working on the NX, I wonder if it'll be Pokemon.

I don't think we're actually getting a new Pokemon on NX the year it releases.
 

ASIS

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It's also probably that:

1) The games haven't been ready to show
2) They're super worried about a Wii U repeat of a year+ wait after reveal
3) The NX will likely play Nintendo's iOS games so having, you know, famous and popular iOS games will make that reveal make more sense
4) The Wii U has no winter so they're not distracting from anything there but they also have to be real careful now not to distract from Sun/Moon
I'm also thinking that they were waiting until the competition shows their hands before they show theirs. I do believe that Nintendo is looking at the feedback from the PS and apple conferences and making adjustments to their NX strategy. At least from a marketing perspective.
 
Fine but would rather them work on a brand new IP.
We need more franchises as good as Splatoon, at least a few more.

heres-what-the-why-dont-we-have-both-girl-looks-l-2-25350-1427494348-1_dblbig.jpg
 

Malus

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Fuck now I want to know what Retro is working on.

The real question is what is Good Feel working on? :p

...

Wouldn't it be crazy if Good Feel made a 2D Metroid? Just take the established formula like they did with Yoshi and pretty it up.

Wouldn't be surprised if they're just taking over Yoshi for the near future, but they've done a few different franchises. Man I'd love a 3D platformer outta them too.
 

Anth0ny

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The system is launching in March.

You kind of need to give people enough time to budget for a $200+ entertainment purchase accordingly right after the holidays. So, Nintendo should probably get on that reveal by November.

Is March still considered right after the holidays?

I don't see how revealing it in November or in January really makes a difference. The people buying at launch are going to be the diehards like us who follow this shit day to day and will likely have no problem spending the money to buy at launch.

Most sales of NX next year will come in November and December, not launch month.
 
If game freak is working on the NX, I wonder if it'll be Pokemon.

I don't think we're actually getting a new Pokemon on NX the year it releases.
Yeah I'm skeptical of that as well. I guess they could port Sun and Moon to NX but that would be unprecedented for GF. Maybe they could port the Sun and Moon engine to NX and release a Sun and Moon 2 for Fall 2017.
 
Is March still considered right after the holidays?

I don't see how revealing it in November or in January really makes a difference. The people buying at launch are going to be the diehards like us who follow this shit day to day and will likely have no problem spending the money to buy at launch.

Most sales of NX next year will come in November and December, not launch month.

Nintendo probably doesn't simply want diehard Nintendo fans at launch, but other core consumers as well. So yeah, revealing before January would be smart.

I mean yeah, if they only want Nintendo fans on day one, go ahead and unveil the thing in January. Heck, reveal it in late February.

They're not going to wait to do an unveiling in 2017, so I'm not worried.
 

Neoxon

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I know many that would give a fuck. Nintendo has arguably the best exclusives. That plus +AAA 3rd party games with a decent online service+affordable price -= winning.
And most of those who do care already have a system that has western third party games. It's too late in the generation for Nintendo to try & penetrate the existing core gaming market now.

i'd argue "nintendo" is a consistent brand

you of course can't reveal a console too late, especially with core gamers but if the concept is appealing consumers at large will buy it whether it's revealed tomorrow or Feb 28
You're right about Nintendo being a consistent brand in of itself, but their consoles aren't usually called "Nintendo" like how Sony consoles are called "PlayStation".
 
I bet literally all the pieces are already out there through rumors, leaks, and patents, honestly.

I just want to see the games.

I agree, sounds like eith the EuroGamer rumors we know all the secrets to NX. Games are all the surprises left tbh. The hype has me expecting some ridiculous lineup but I know it really won't be anywhere close
 

jacksrb

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Me, I am still looking for a reveal sometime this month.

On the detachable controllers, I think that is the thing I am most fascinated with. I have loved the mockups and designs floating around. I feel like there are four design priorities in tension:

1 - Including "standard" controls for games like Z:BotW and requiring two shoulder buttons on each side
2 - Supporting SNES/NES controls when held sideways like a wii mote
3 - Supporting wii mote style controls when leveraging gyros, etc. and potentially remaining relatively symmetrical for multiplayer in that style
4 - Balancing comfort with portability (this is interesting for the whole system)

So...I think I would throw 2 (SNES/NES) controls out and focus on the others. Really curious where the molding will land between a remote control [rectangular] and like one side of the pro controller.
 

ggx2ac

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It's also probably that:

1) The games haven't been ready to show
2) They're super worried about a Wii U repeat of a year+ wait after reveal
3) The NX will likely play Nintendo's iOS games so having, you know, famous and popular iOS games will make that reveal make more sense
4) The Wii U has no winter so they're not distracting from anything there but they also have to be real careful now not to distract from Sun/Moon

Hehe I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks it will play mobile games. (You have to give the mobile demographic some convenience to have one system that plays mobile games and traditional games. Especially in Japan.)

I'm not concerned about distracting from Pokémon S/M. If they reveal NX now, it still gives 2 months to ramp up marketing for the Pokémon games which have been shown since the 20th anniversary. Even Pokémon Go is having a "spillover effect" which as increased sales of other games in the series as described in that WSJ article yesterday.

Edit: I'll list some assumed benefits of playing mobile games on NX compared to an iOS or Android device.

- Firmware updates not breaking games like Capcom's games on iOS.
- Games running on Vulkan maybe? There's supposed improved performance that the games run longer with regards to battery life.
- The device shouldn't be hot to hold while playing.

(These are all assumptions so I could be wrong.)
 
If all these rumors turn out to be false and we have been hyped beyond what we will get I think it will not fare well for Nintendo... that is why Nintendo needs to reveal this ASAP if we already have false expectations
 
If all these rumors turn out to be false and we have been hyped beyond what we will get I think it will not fare well for Nintendo... that is why Nintendo needs to reveal this ASAP if we already have false expectations

The only people paying attention to rumors in the first place are freaks like us checking the thread every day. If it turns out none of it is true, what's actually going to happen is that the vast majority of the public is going to be too busy talking about what the NX is rather than what anons on the internet said it was. A couple of insiders are going to catch heat, Emily Rogers might go back into hiding like she did during the Wii U's infancy and maybe a couple of people are going end up on a wall of shame over crow and not believing rumors or something like that.

We're going to be too busy dealing with a brand new level of stupid that usually overtakes gaming forums right before new hardware launches.
 
The only people paying attention to rumors in the first place are freaks like us checking the thread every day. If it turns out none of it is true, what's actually going to happen is that the vast majority of the public is going to be too busy talking about what the NX is rather than what anons on the internet said it was. A couple of insiders are going to catch heat, Emily Rogers might go back into hiding like she did during the Wii U's infancy and maybe a couple of people are going end up on a wall of shame over crow and not believing rumors or something like that.

We're going to be too busy dealing with a brand new level of stupid that usually overtakes gaming forums right before new hardware launches.

What rumors exactly? I've only been following this thread sporadically and I missed the last week or two. Anything beyond the OP title or has there been new stuff added?
 
If all these rumors turn out to be false and we have been hyped beyond what we will get I think it will not fare well for Nintendo... that is why Nintendo needs to reveal this ASAP if we already have false expectations
Nintendo will be fine. The millions and millions of people who will buy the NX don't even know about the NX. Me, you and some few thousand of people who follow this news everyday will "think" Nintendo needs to reveal it soon because of all the "hype", but the overall picture there really isn't any expectations from the customer base that matters the most. Of course it's beneficial to announce it this year because they actually said they would and it's good to build mindshare.

Plus, the people following this news everyday it's their own fault if they get hyped off of rumors and believe them. Nintendo hasn't said a word about NX, so when they reveal the NX don't get mad because rumors filled you with one idea and Nintendo gives you another thing.

I'm most hyped for games, which we know nothing about and there hasn't been any real substantial leaks for them.
 
If all these rumors turn out to be false and we have been hyped beyond what we will get I think it will not fare well for Nintendo... that is why Nintendo needs to reveal this ASAP if we already have false expectations
It's not Nintendo's responsibility to care what maniacal gaming message-boarders expect the system to be based on rumors.
They'll reveal it when they are ready, not let the crazy internet dictate their decisions.
 

Peterc

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So nx wouldn't have vr.

I was expecting that. But with the motion detachable controllers it feels like a missed opportunity.
 
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