A 3D Mario in late 2017 would make sense, given EPD Tokyo's timetable. I would also say a port of Sun/Moon (or Star, if that's what it is) would be a decent bet for the second half of the year. Game Freak have tended to wait before bringing Pokemon to new platforms, but in all those prior cases the new handheld has been backwards-compatible, providing a way for owners of the new device to play the games. Without BC (as far as we know) this time it makes sense to put out a port to give NX owners a way to play the game, and of course squeeze some money out of owners of both who decide to double-dip.
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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock
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A 3D Mario in late 2017 would make sense, given EPD Tokyo's timetable. I would also say a port of Sun/Moon (or Star, if that's what it is) would be a decent bet for the second half of the year. Game Freak have tended to wait before bringing Pokemon to new platforms, but in all those prior cases the new handheld has been backwards-compatible, providing a way for owners of the new device to play the games. Without BC (as far as we know) this time it makes sense to put out a port to give NX owners a way to play the game, and of course squeeze some money out of owners of both who decide to double-dip.
Dark Cloud
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Nintendo's been throwing us some curveballs. The first week of September we thought this could be the week they announce NX reveal and they announce 3DS Direct. We're like ok that's of the way so this week they could announce NX Direcr and they announce Super Mario Run at Apples Conference. We're like okkk.
Now that all of that is out of the way this upcoming week seems prime time ready for the NX reveal announcement. They can do it the Tuesday before TGS starts on Thursday.
Now that all of that is out of the way this upcoming week seems prime time ready for the NX reveal announcement. They can do it the Tuesday before TGS starts on Thursday.
AtomicShroom
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I'd like them to continue working on the DKC franchise on the sole basis of getting more of that David Wise goodness.
What I'm questioning is, what makes it impossible to hold the controller in the orientation that would put the controls in the correct position i.e. flat edge up/outwards? Where does the shoulder button go? Could be a wiimote-esque trigger on the back? Is it important? It could be designed in a way that's unintrusive regardless of which way you hold it.(because I'm realizing that the controller halves would have be different when detached if you want the shoulder buttons to both sit on top when attached)
Edit: Shoulder buttons could be on the screen unit, too.
Skittzo0413
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I think the issue here is when you're using both of the detachable controllers as wiimotes in local multiplayer. One person holds the left controller, and one person holds the right controller. Since the sticks/pads are offset, you would have to flip the right controller 180 degrees in order to get the same control scheme for both players in their right hands. If the controller is flipped 180 degrees, where could the shoulder or trigger possibly be such that it works in both that arrangement as well as the non-flipped arrangement?
I would hope the shoulder buttons aren't on the NX device itself because that would be awful having to reach them.
The detachable controllers would only have four face buttons and a circle pad and 1 shoulder button to use possibly lol.
Also, what are the face buttons supposed to look like? The left side will have a split D-pad but the right side is assumed to be B,A,Y,X. When you turn that on its side it will look like:
(B) (Y)
(A) (X)
Edit: Mixed up the order.
Chris Ticehurst
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Come on Nintendo, this is the first time Sony is stumbling in a long time this week and you could increase the pain of that.
I just discovered something else. It's fine to flip the left controller because of the split D-pad. The right one can't if we assume face buttons because... They would be upside down.
(A)(X)
(B)(Y)
Seeing Nintendo never attends TGS, no.
DrROBschiz
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What the fuck are they even waiting for
Its like Im growing numb but based on what the competition is up to the NX is actually the system im looking forward to the most
I'll have to get back to the controllers later. (In a few hours)
I don't really think LCD screen buttons using SHARP's free form screen tech would solve the issues mentioned because I'd be wondering how much it would cost and how much battery it would drain. Not to mention how would it feel like?
I don't really think LCD screen buttons using SHARP's free form screen tech would solve the issues mentioned because I'd be wondering how much it would cost and how much battery it would drain. Not to mention how would it feel like?
Skittzo0413
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That's assuming they still use those letters. It's certainly possible to just use colors, for instance, or symmetrical letters or shapes like O, I, X... and something else?
Not that I see them giving up the letters, but it's less of a problem to overcome I'd say.
User123456
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Why wouldn't the detachable controllers simply have normal placement for shoulders/triggers and just not use them when it's being used sideways, by implementing simplified control schemes or flat-out not being compatible with more complex games?
Think sideways wiimote and Mario Kart/Smash.
Think sideways wiimote and Mario Kart/Smash.
Man I've read like... most of these threads. I could have finished books in this time... but that wouldn't be as fun.
In all these threads, I haven't seen mentioned how March is right during tax return season, a typically high selling time for all electronics sales. Back when I worked at Best Buy it was our busiest time outside of the holidays and back to school.
So I think it is a prime release date considering it separates them from all the holiday tech and games releases as well as puts them in a position where people will have the "fun" money to spend on a cool, not too highly priced game system.
It would probably be disadvantageous to them to release much later(like a delay) because of hitting that tax return season sweet spot.
In all these threads, I haven't seen mentioned how March is right during tax return season, a typically high selling time for all electronics sales. Back when I worked at Best Buy it was our busiest time outside of the holidays and back to school.
So I think it is a prime release date considering it separates them from all the holiday tech and games releases as well as puts them in a position where people will have the "fun" money to spend on a cool, not too highly priced game system.
It would probably be disadvantageous to them to release much later(like a delay) because of hitting that tax return season sweet spot.
UnemployedVillain
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I feel like this is a lot of people in here
You guys should watch Atlanta
Skittzo0413
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What exactly is "normal" placement when you're talking about controllers which need to have the same control scheme whether attached or detached?
How restrictive is this, actually? Ofc, I'm going on the premise that this controller usage only applies to local multiplayer on a single display, otherwise you'll be using both halves for a single player. That said, how many games become unfeasible in this scenario? In my experience, most local multi games rarely go beyond using 3 buttons for important game functions. Splitscreen with controllable cameras (FPS, for instance) becomes nearly impossible, certainly. But I don't think that's an important part of the demographic for Nintendo platforms (and this doesn't rule out online multiplayer FPS or SP FPS)
There should be ways to design button identifiers in a way that's symbol agnostic. Colors and braille numbering (1 bump, 2 bumps, 3 bumps, 4 bumps) could work.
You can always put LEDs under each key and they light up with a different color based on the configuration.
casey_contra
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This is aN eXcellent point. This would definitely convince me to bite.
LordRaptor
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●, x, ▲, ■ for the playstation is pretty clever as it represents 1,2,3,4 by the number of lines required to draw each symbol
casey_contra
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Sideways wiimote with a stick and shoulder buttons? Sold!
3ds launched in north america in march, and japan in february. it's not unheard of to launch at that time.
but the real money will always be the holiday season.
Skittzo0413
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Yeah this possibility has been brought up before in these threads and I think it's a good solution. Depends on how it affects battery life though.
casey_contra
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I'm cool with this as long as it's not nearly as obnoxious as the PS4 controller light...
I bet her uncle doesn't even work at Nintendo.
pre-TGS is already ruled out because I can't see Nintendo announcing the NX reveal only 2 or 3 days prior.
Honestly I doubt that Pokémon is gonna play a big role here. So I think it's still possible we will see an announcement video during the coming week. But really it's only a waiting game.
At this point I hope they keep it secret until after Xmas
Remind me. SpaceWorld doesn't have a regular date, does it?
Fairies are going to deliver it to all the Nintendo fans' houses on Christmas Eve. We'll wake up to the sweet sounds of HEY! LISTEN
Fairies are going to deliver it to all the Nintendo fans' houses on Christmas Eve. We'll wake up to the sweet sounds of HEY! LISTEN
Why is that?
casey_contra
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I still had dial-up when this happened, but did we know that they were going to reveal the Revolution controller during TGS beforehand?
Edit: OMG went back and watched it... what a terrific trailer. Wow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eLQI8QkI6g
Yep, I pretty much gave myself this expectation: if it doesn't happen pre-TGS, wait til' october. And in all likelihood, they would want to give even a slight advance notice, so we would have to hear about it today. (I read there was an occurrence of something announced friday for a monday date in the past)
Waiting for October is going to be a smarter choice than agonizing everyday, wondering if the next minute will bring news.
Jesus, you know it is a good trailer when they don't show any game but people playing and still they sell this to 120 mill. people.
JStein0222
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NX'S FIRST TITLE CONFIRMED
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
How about just the colours.
the androgyne
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Dang, first time i noticed the nunchuk connector changed before final. That one there looks like the Motion Plus attachment. But mind blown at and 1 & 2 originally being X & Y with a & b letters underneath!
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Rösti
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SpaceWorld '97
November 21-24
SpaceWorld '99
August 27-29
SpaceWorld 2000
August 25-27
SpaceWorld 2001
August 24-26
Here's a revised mockup based on Emily's information. It's tricky figuring out the start select home share button placement, I figured it would be needed on the controllers when they are separated. And putting the labels for them on the main unit instead of the controllers means they could be start / select for when its used as 1 and 2 player controllers. Or maybe used as additional action buttons, perhaps.
The pair on the left is for when playing in console mode 1 player. They function like a regular controller if you snap them together, or separate them for that Wii motion capability for games that need it.
The pair on the left is for when playing in console mode 1 player. They function like a regular controller if you snap them together, or separate them for that Wii motion capability for games that need it.
casey_contra
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OMG, does anyone remember the image of the wii remote standing on a reflective surface? On the controller it said 1 and 2, but the reflection had a and b! Looking for that now.
Sorry, don't want to make this a Wii memory board. The good thing about it being announced so late is that maybe we'll see the final hardware out of the gate?
wild wild rice
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Ya know what they say, no news is good news.
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