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[M3d10n]

It's clear now that the "gimmick" (or one of them) is a portable that supports two players local multiplayer out of the box for games like Mario Kart, Super Mario, Smash Bros, Just Dance and etcetera.

I even expect the final unit to have a built in kickstand.

 

[brandonh83]

I'm ready to make purchasing decisions based on leaked rumored prototypes

 

[Mega]

What's the point of the removable controls? It'd be really annoying if you have to remove them to put it in the dock. If you don't, why would you ever take them off?

Take the system with you to a friend's, plug it into his TV (or prop it up if away from the home), detach the controllers and you get instant 2 player gaming.

Another possibility is different controller attachments for different types of games. Similar to how the Wii remote allowed for different attachments besides the nunchuk.

 

[Mega]

Aren't those the detachable controllers though?

No, that person's mockup has enormous side bezels that are the size of the controllers in addition to the controller attachments themselves. It makes no sense.

 

[Doc Holliday]

I'm hoping all these leaks are false :/

Even the Wii U leaks were more exciting because at least there was hope that it would be powerful by virtue of it being a home console. Even then Nintendo went for power effiency, heat, and size over power. That was with a console! I imagine they will be even more conservative given that this is a hybrid with the usual limitations that go portable hardware.

 

[Neonep]

As long as the Wii U pro controller is compatible then we are good.

 

[James Scott]

It's clear now that the "gimmick" (or one of them) is a portable that supports two players local multiplayer out of the box for games like Mario Kart, Super Mario, Smash Bros, Just Dance and etcetera.

I don't know if that's the gimmick, but it's most likely a selling point, yes. Having two motion controls built in as well as a touch screen would allow for devs to make all sorts of new experiences as well. Hopefully good ones too. It'll certainly be different enough to stand out vs PS4 and X1

 

[Genio88]

Well, invites would need to go out next week at the latest to give journalists enough time unless they've gone mental and won't have any sort of press hands-on until near release.

Apple sent the invites for their iPhone 7 event about a week before it, so i guess if those rumors of a NX presentation September 20 are real then those invites should be sent before the end of next week...always assuming they'll have such event rather than a standard Nintendo Direct

 

[Mithos]

Why would it have such enormous empty bezels on the sides? That makes it an entire 25% bigger than it needs to be. It looks terrible.

I'm guessing it is because measurements are known of the parts, 6.2" screen is a certain size, the detachable controllers a named size etc etc that's what is over to make the measurement accurate.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

As someone who hasn't been a fan of traditional handheld gaming in years, but is totally on board with tablet devices, the size of the NX is music to my ears. If these leaks are true, I'll actually end up playing this in its portable form a lot more than I originally thought.

 

[Peterc]

What's the point of the removable controls? It'd be really annoying if you have to remove them to put it in the dock. If you don't, why would you ever take them off?

Lol

 

[Dr. Buni]

The rumors sound exciting enough to me.

No, that person's mockup has enormous side bezels that are the size of the controllers in addition to the controller attachments themselves. It makes no sense.

Ah. The other mockup makes more sense, I guess.

 

[jonno394]

Aren't those the detachable controllers though?

Once you remove the controllers there's still a lot of empty bezel around the screen which isn't needed

 

[BDGAME]

Very little about the dock is known overall, beyond apparently 2 USB ports (on the devkit dock). We haven't seen anyone claim that the dock allows the device to run at a higher power level, though this is a very common and reasonable function in a consumer electronics device, which is why it's been speculated so heavily.

So, nothing was saying about it. Noone confirm and noone dismiss.

Anyone tried to ask Emily about the dock?

 

[Father_Brain]

It's clear now that the "gimmick" (or one of them) is a portable that supports two players local multiplayer out of the box for games like Mario Kart, Super Mario, Smash Bros, Just Dance and etcetera.

I even expect the final unit to have a built in kickstand.

A stand was in the Eurogamer report, I think.

 

[AquaWateria]

I can't believe some people were expecting something a lot slimmer. I mean it's given with the amount of power its packing for a handheld.

And we are already having people complain its too weak.

 

[James Scott]

I'm hoping all these leaks are false :/

Even the Wii U leaks were more exciting because at least there was hope that it would be powerful by virtue of it being a home console. Even then Nintendo went for power effiency, heat, and size over power. That was with a console! I imagine they will be even more conservative given that this is a hybrid with the usual limitations that go portable hardware.

The current rumors go >2x Wii U in specs on a portable. It'll be a very powerful handheld while allowing Nintendo to make better looking HD games than the Wii U and while keeping budgets down and increasing output. If you want more and better games from Nintendo this is probably the best option.
It'll have to be cheap enough to succeed, though. $199 would be great but $249 is also likely, but a bit too close for comfort to the ps4/slim

 

[NESpowerhouse]

My biggest problem with the detachable controls is that it's almost impossible to use each side as a stand-alone controller when their functionality would be so limited. I mean, you've got an analog stick, 4 face button, maybe a start button, and that's it (there may also be shoulder buttons, but those would be at the BOTTOM of the controller if you were to hold it sideways). When was the last time you've ever played a multiplayer game that only used those buttons? Almost every 3D multiplayer console game uses the second analog stick or shoulder buttons in some way, shape, or form. In addition, if you were to get with a buddy and play a multiplayer game with him on the go with those detachable controllers, it would still be next to impossible to see what's going on in the game because of the relatively small screen, and you and your buddy would have to cram yourselves in front of the screen just to see what the heck is going on.

 

[jmizzal]

That sounds pretty slick how it connects the two controllers and not bulky at all.

Also so it connects to the tv and dock

Still no info on what the dock has in it tho

 

[orioto]

It's clear now that the "gimmick" (or one of them) is a portable that supports two players local multiplayer out of the box for games like Mario Kart, Super Mario, Smash Bros, Just Dance and etcetera.

I even expect the final unit to have a built in kickstand.

As many have sai before, it's not clear how that would work.. Cause those small detachable half controllers won't be enough for big games (like monster hunter), and cause the screen will be too small to play correctly something like mario kart or splatoon on it, especially with a split screen..

That and.. i'll say it again. If a game needs you to put the screen on some plane surface, it's not portable anymore i'm sorry. You can't do that in transport for exemple.

 

[QaaQer]

Any word on sticks vs circle pads?

 

[Skittzo0413]

So, nothing was saying about it. Noone confirm and noone dismiss.

Anyone tried to ask Emily about the dock?

I don't know if anyone has, but it would be nice to hear a comment about it, so maybe someone can? I'm not a twitterer...

 

[Neonep]

Hopefully the battery life on this thing is good. That is still a big concern.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

I almost never play portable games outside. It's almost always in my bed or couch, indoors. So personally, I hope that this thing in handheld form goes all out on screen size.

 

[Genio88]

A stand was in the Eurogamer report, I think.

Yes it was this, a Surface Pro build in stand like.... funny how that image actually describe the same rumor we are discussing today, that information was available over a month a go already

 

[The Boat]

If the controllers are like that, the main use would be to be able to have a separate controller that can be turned into handheld buttons as well as the possibility of Wii like controls, as well as touch and classic controls.
As far as using both controllers for 2P, that wouldn't be possible with every game sure, but it could work with many others.

 

[MuchoMalo]

Apple sent the invites for their iPhone 7 event about a week before it, so i guess if those rumors of a NX presentation September 20 are real then those invites should be sent before the end of next week...always assuming they'll have such event rather than a standard Nintendo Direct

While true, that's Apple (which means that journalists would be willing to cancel their wedding to attend), they have an event around the same time every year, and Nintendo has to worry about people going to Sony's conference and TGS so they'd need a bit of warning.

I'm hoping all these leaks are false :/

Even the Wii U leaks were more exciting because at least there was hope that it would be powerful by virtue of it being a home console. Even then Nintendo went for power effiency, heat, and size over power. That was with a console! I imagine they will be even more conservative given that this is a hybrid with the usual limitations that go portable hardware.

Low power and power efficiency are two different things. It was a bit more efficient than last-gen's final iterations, but that's it.

 

[NESpowerhouse]

Also, when you connect the portable to a TV screen, is it seriously just going to upscale a 720p image like the Wii U? I can't believe while everyone else is going after 4k, Nintendo is still trying to get 1080p right.

 

[DrROBschiz]

So since the controllers are meant to detach for local co op play...

Does that mean this thing with have some type of built in kick stand or something?

I might just play it on the go with the stand and a Pro controller

Cuz that built in shit looks awkward as fuck and we know Nintendo's ergonomics track record

 

[Mega]

It's clear now that the "gimmick" (or one of them) is a portable that supports two players local multiplayer out of the box for games like Mario Kart, Super Mario, Smash Bros, Just Dance and etcetera.

I even expect the final unit to have a built in kickstand.

The selling point will be a console you can play anywhere with more than one person if desired. I'm betting on promo videos showing people playing this thing everywhere. In public, on campus in between classes, moving from the living room TV to the bedroom TV (HDMI Out), leaving the house and playing in the car or on the bus.

 

[jmizzal]

Dock is an SCD sold separately that adds extra power?

Yes plz

Like I said before, we had rumors all over the place on NX power, from Below Xbox one to PS4 power, which is why I think the dock power level is problem on or above PS4 level, since they can sell it to the power hunger hard core separately

 

[Anth0ny]

What's the point of the removable controls? It'd be really annoying if you have to remove them to put it in the dock. If you don't, why would you ever take them off?

take them off and you have a traditional tablet/smartphone experience with just the screen and touch controls

at least that's what I figure

 

[NESpowerhouse]

To be clear, this thing is barely going to be portable at all. It's going to be like trying to fit a Wii U gamepad in your pocket - and then some!

 

[Branduil]

It's clear now that the "gimmick" (or one of them) is a portable that supports two players local multiplayer out of the box for games like Mario Kart, Super Mario, Smash Bros, Just Dance and etcetera.

I even expect the final unit to have a built in kickstand.

This is not at all clear.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

To be clear, this thing is barely going to be portable at all. It's going to be like trying to fit a Wii U gamepad in your pocket - and then some!

It's basically going to be as portable as a tablet, which is fine in 2016 / 2017.

I think the reason for this is if you want to play a game for a few minutes at a time, you pull out your phone. If you're going to be in a situation where you're playing a portable game for an hour or two, you're not going to have a problem lugging around a bigger device.

 

[Mory Dunz]

The current rumors go >2x Wii U in specs on a portable. It'll be a very powerful handheld while allowing Nintendo to make better looking HD games than the Wii U and while keeping budgets down and increasing output. If you want more and better games from Nintendo this is probably the best option.
It'll have to be cheap enough to succeed, though. $199 would be great but $249 is also likely, but a bit too close for comfort to the ps4/slim

No way it's $199 imo.

Unless the dock actually did help performance a lot and was sold separately for $60

 

[The Last One]

That's some thicker machine.

I hope the retail version is more... appealing

 

[Father_Brain]

To be clear, this thing is barely going to be portable at all. It's going to be like trying to fit a Wii U gamepad in your pocket - and then some!

Pocket-sized and portable aren't the same thing.

Also, keep in mind that no one is going to choose NX as their primary portable device over a smartphone, no matter what size it is.

 

[Shiggy]

It's basically going to be as portable as a tablet, which is fine in 2016 / 2017.

If you detach the controller units.

 

[NESpowerhouse]

It's basically going to be as portable as a tablet, which is fine in 2016 / 2017.

Okay, if that's the case, then how do people carry these behemoths around?? Sure a lot of women have purses, but for someone like me who doesn't carry any extra accessories, how on earth do I keep this thing discrete when I'm not using it on the go?

 

[OrbitalBeard]

If you detach the controller units.

Even with the controllers, it's not a massive difference that will affect someone who's currently ok carrying around a tablet.

Okay, if that's the case, then how do people carry these behemoths around?? Sure a lot of women have purses, but for someone like me who doesn't carry any extra accessories, how on earth do I keep this thing discrete when I'm not using it on the go?

If you're the type of person who carries his or her 3DS with him everywhere, then yeah, I don't know what to tell you. NX probably won't be nearly as convenient for you.

For most people, they'll bring the NX with them when they're going to be in situations with lots of downtime, so having to carry it around in a case or backpack won't be that big of a deal. The average person will simply use their phone when they only need a few minutes to keep themselves occupied.

 

[Skittzo0413]

No way it's $199 imo.

Unless the dock actually did help performance a lot and was sold separately for $60

The Nvidia Shield with a Tegra X1 costs $199 with very high margins likely, since they don't make money on software like Nintendo would. So this could be released at cost or even with a slim profit margin and be $199 even with the addition of a 720p touchscreen (which is awfully cheap nowadays). It'll come down to battery size, storage space, and whether or not the dock is anything besides an HDMI/charger pass through.

 

[Graphics Horse]

It's clear now that the "gimmick" (or one of them) is a portable that supports two players local multiplayer out of the box for games like Mario Kart, Super Mario, Smash Bros, Just Dance and etcetera.

I even expect the final unit to have a built in kickstand.

How would you feel about a dual view screen?https://youtu.be/P2Lpwt_fn4c

 

[PadWarrior]

I hope the Wii u pro controllers are compatible. I hate to such a great controller not make a comeback.

 

[Mega]

My biggest problem with the detachable controls is that it's almost impossible to use each side as a stand-alone controller when their functionality would be so limited. I mean, you've got an analog stick, 4 face button, maybe a start button, and that's it (there may also be shoulder buttons, but those would be at the BOTTOM of the controller if you were to hold it sideways). When was the last time you've ever played a multiplayer game that only used those buttons? Almost every 3D multiplayer console game uses the second analog stick or shoulder buttons in some way, shape, or form. In addition, if you were to get with a buddy and play a multiplayer game with him on the go with those detachable controllers, it would still be next to impossible to see what's going on in the game because of the relatively small screen, and you and your buddy would have to cram yourselves in front of the screen just to see what the heck is going on.

The detachable controllers will probably be for in-a-pinch gaming. Like you fire up a NES VC game or a WarioWare, Mario Party or Nintendoland type of game. More complex multiplayer will probably require others to bring a Pro controller of some kind. What I would like to see is for Nintendo to release an app that lets others use their smartphones as controllers (or maybe even secondary displays) with the NX as the hub, but maybe that's beyond Nintendo's scope for this device.

You're exaggerating in saying that it's next to impossible for two people to clearly see a 6" screen propped up on a table, at a distance of less than 2 feet from their faces.

 

[RPGCrazied]

So many leaks/rumors. They just need to release the information on this thing.

 

[CrazyHorse]

Waaaay too complex for ordinary folks.

 

[Mariolee]

Waaaay too complex for ordinary folks.

What lol

 

[Father_Brain]

As many have sai before, it's not clear how that would work.. Cause those small detachable half controllers won't be enough for big games (like monster hunter), and cause the screen will be too small to play correctly something like mario kart or splatoon on it, especially with a split screen..

That and.. i'll say it again. If a game needs you to put the screen on some plane surface, it's not portable anymore i'm sorry. You can't do that in transport for exemple.

I'm not sure it's too small for 2P split-screen. Not ideal, perhaps, but large enough to be functional, given that it's not like people will be playing from the other side of the room..

I'd also venture to guess that their marketing for that feature will focus heavily on single-screen multiplayer games like Smash and Just Dance.

 

[the androgyne]

Does anyone else remember the original first "rumor" for NX last year, that in addition to having a TV out dongle on the unit, it would "work with PS4 and smartphones".

Well, wouldn't it be totally crazy if Nintendo is somehow entering some kind of partnership with Sony, and the NX is designed to work with the PS4 Neo and it's controllers for docked play?

PS4 NintEndO as it were... Almost sounds more believable than a 28cm handheld tbh