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[NESpowerhouse]

The detachable controllers will probably be for in-a-pinch gaming. Like you fire up a NES VC game or a WarioWare, Mario Party or Nintendoland type of game. More complex multiplayer will probably require others to bring a Pro controller of some kind. What I would like to see is for Nintendo to release an app that lets others use their smartphones as controllers (or maybe even secondary displays) with the NX as the hub, but maybe that's beyond Nintendo's scope for this device.

You're exaggerating in saying that it's next to impossible for two people to clearly see a 6" screen propped up on a table, at a distance of less than 2 feet from their faces.

Yeah, maybe you're right about that last bit. I wrote that and then used a Gamepad for reference (since it's also a 6-inch screen) and found that it's not too bad.

 

[Mega]

Waaaay too complex for ordinary folks.

You are ordinary folk. Most of the people on this message board are.

 

[Vanillalite]

So looking at the calendar for the next two months...

If we assume the press need a 3 week ahead notice for planning that puts us at the 22nd at the earliest. That being said with the direct tomorrow and such I doubt any invites come.

So that pushes us to the 6th at the earliest as Monday is a US Holiday even if Nintendo is a Japanese company. Announcement won't go out on Labor Day.

That puts us at the 27th at the earliest.

Invites won't come out on the 7th cause other shit is going on that day. So you have a time block from the 8th till the 16th for pre TGS invites. That would mean going off the 3 week theory the event would be the 29th-7th.

If invites don't go out till after TGS your talking the earliest being the 12th with the week of the 17th being more likely. YMMV if that's too late into October.

 

[Shiggy]

Even with the controllers, it's not a massive difference that will affect someone who's currently ok carrying around a tablet.

Depends, if they are similar to those on the 3DS, it's probably no issue just putting the thing in your bag as an entire unit. Otherwise you may want to detach the control units first and transport them separately. I have some bad experience with putting controllers with control sticks in my bag (in other words, there was apparently too much pressure from some books that damaged the stick).

 

[Dr. Buni]

Waaaay too complex for ordinary folks.

The complexity comes from the fact you don't know what exactly the system is yet. Once it is revealed I doubt it will be anything too complex for the "ordinary folks".

 

[Kyonashi]

I'm so confused on these specs, as others have said a 281mm width with a 6in screen, when taking into account the controllers still means a huge width of unused space between the controller and screen on either side, making the unit really wide.

 

[10k]

Dev kits are always bigger and different then the final retail unit.

I expect more than two usb ports on the dock if it's gonna take stuff like external powered hard drives and GameCube adapters and such.

Also, I doubt they can tell it's region free from a dev kit but I expect the NX to be region free.

 

[eifer]

Is Wii u region free?

 

[ASIS]

Nintendo is leaking more than ever. Why are they holding out on the reveal? This is getting a little bit out of control.

Is Wii u region free?

No, neither is the 3DS. Only the DS was region free and thing released way back in 2004.

 

[James Scott]

No way it's $199 imo.

Unless the dock actually did help performance a lot and was sold separately for $60

$250 is likely, but $199 is ideal, I know Nintendo doesn't want to take a loss on the hardware but it might be necessary to have them out of the range of ps4 and xbox one

 

[QaaQer]

PS4 NintEndO as it were... Almost sounds more believable than a 28cm handheld tbh

What if psnow and office365 come pre-installed? j/k

Nintendo has to look at filling this thing with as many free value adds as it can. That would include things like Google Music/spotify, approved android apps, pc streaming, amazon shit, etc. And since Iwata's partnership initiative, Nintendo is more than willing to work with other companies. It also needs an easy way to use cell phone data plans for things like pokemon go and other cool out-and-about game ideas.

If it just plays Nintendo + some JPN games, idk.

 

[Karspankey]

I'm hoping that the base adds a tid-bit of power, but only enough to make sure the resolution on first party games is 1080p. That's all I'm asking! Hell, I could even imagine the NX not even coming with a base at all for a reduced cost. My perfect NX design would be a $199 model with just the main handheld, a $229.99 model for a base that just shoots the video/audio to a tv, and a $280 model that adds a bit of power for a resolution increase.

That is just my wants from the thing though, I don't think Nintendo would ever, ever, dare do something like that. However, the New N3DS kind of gives me reason to believe that this could happen so who knows?

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Nintendo is leaking more than ever. Why are they holding out on the reveal? This is getting a little bit out of control.

At this point, I don't see why it matters. Nintendo should reveal it when they're ready.

 

[lucablight]

Very excited if this is region free!

 

[retardedrockstar]

Everyone keeps saying detachable controllers.

What is if it turns out to be attachable controllers? Meaning by default its basically an android phone/tv .. and you attach controllers to play.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

I hope the connector for each "controller bit" remains firm over time. Can you imagine having a handheld in three years that wobbles in two different places are you're holding it?

 

[Fourth Storm]

Don't know if it's been posted, but Laura clarified that they are indeed circle pads.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

I hope the connector for each "controller bit" remains firm over time. Can you imagine having a handheld in three years that wobbles in two different places are you're holding it?

Lets be real. We'll all have purchased at least one NX revision by that point anyway.

Don't know if it's been posted, but Laura clarified that they are indeed circle pads.

This wouldn't shock me, but I also wouldn't be surprised if that changes for the final release. Happened with Wii U.

 

[Vanillalite]

At this point, I don't see why it matters. Nintendo should reveal it when they're ready.

Well yes and no

Revealing in the Holiday season would mean it would get burried.

That being said outside of that I agree. Either launch Sept-Oct or else drip feed some info and say the reveal will be in January with a lead up to the March launch. Do it when they are ready.*

*All of this is assuming a March launch

 

[Genio88]

$250 is likely, but $199 is ideal, I know Nintendo doesn't want to take a loss on the hardware but it might be necessary to have them out of the range of ps4 and xbox one

Would be awesome, i'd be in day one if the price is under 250 at launch, perhaps it could be 250 bundled with some games, after all Nintendo always do that, like Wii with Wii sport or 3DS with those AR Cards games

 

[QaaQer]

I hope the connector for each "controller bit" remains firm over time. Can you imagine having a handheld in three years that wobbles in two different places are you're holding it?

Magnets are the obvious answer.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

Lets be real. We'll all have purchased at least one NX revision by that point anyway.

That's ridiculous, I'm sure the original iteration won't have some purposefully glaring technical/design flaw that makes a design imminent/necessary...

That... that's not Nintendo's MO...

 

[wild wild rice]

This wouldn't shock me, but I also wouldn't be surprised if that changes for the final release. Happened with Wii U.

God I hope so.

 

[QaaQer]

Well yes and no

Revealing in the Holiday season would mean it would get burried.

That being said outside of that I agree. Either launch Sept-Oct or else drip feed some info and say the reveal will be in January with a lead up to the March launch. Do it when they are ready.*

*All of this is assuming a March launch

What are the downsides of a Jan reveal? It seems to be the perfect time if they are on sched for a spring release.

 

[MuchoMalo]

I'm hoping that the base adds a tid-bit of power, but only enough to make sure the resolution on first party games is 1080p. That's all I'm asking! Hell, I could even imagine the NX not even coming with a base at all for a reduced cost. My perfect NX design would be a $199 model with just the main handheld, a $229.99 model for a base that just shoots the video/audio to a tv, and a $280 model that adds a bit of power for a resolution increase.

That is just my wants from the thing though, I don't think Nintendo would ever, ever, dare do something like that. However, the New N3DS kind of gives me reason to believe that this could happen so who knows?

About that... 1080p is 2.25x as many pixels as 1080p. It would need more than a little boost.

 

[ASIS]

At this point, I don't see why it matters. Nintendo should reveal it when they're ready.

Because the leaks are getting more and more detailed by the day. I won't be surprised if even more tangible information get released in the near future. I don't think this is the position they want to be in.

 

[th3sicknness]

What excites me is the possibility that we could get a portable version of rocket league on this hybrid!

Also one thing I am not sure if this was discussed or not.. If the Nvidia rumors are true.. Could Nintendo essentially be the showcase device for all of Nvidias tech in one device? Nvidia did cancel the shield tablet 2 and isnt really going to use their Tegra line in anything but cars.


This thing could be a tablet without the controllers attached to it (as images indicate).. It is essentially shield tablet / shield tv / shield portable all tied into one device. Nintendo could leverage a bunch of Nvidia tech on this device like gameworks, shadow play , Grid, remote play , and so on..

 

[Doc Holliday]

The current rumors go >2x Wii U in specs on a portable. It'll be a very powerful handheld while allowing Nintendo to make better looking HD games than the Wii U and while keeping budgets down and increasing output. If you want more and better games from Nintendo this is probably the best option.
It'll have to be cheap enough to succeed, though. $199 would be great but $249 is also likely, but a bit too close for comfort to the ps4/slim

If they had a portable and a console that shared the same ecosystem they could do both cheaply and with more power.

Your gimping both by doing a hybrid. A console with ps4 level power with no screen is doable for 250.

A portable with Wii U type power could be done for 199 or less. Doing both as a hybrid will drive up the price, limit the power and cut back on sales because of limited skus. It's a lose lose for Nintendo and a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Makes no sense really.

 

[QaaQer]

Would be awesome, i'd be in day one if the price is under 250 at launch, perhaps it could be 250 bundled with some games, after all Nintendo always do that, like Wii with Wii sport or 3DS with those AR Cards games

If Semiaccurate is right, Nvidia is working for free on this thing. No royalties for chip tech and software support means a savings of $50-100 per unit. $199 for a base model is not out of the question.

 

[Schnozberry]

If Semiaccurate is right, Nvidia is working for free on this thing. No royalties for chip tech and software support means a savings of $50-100 per unit. $199 for a base model is not out of the question.

Depends on contract clauses. If it becomes a huge hit Nvidia may see royalties kick in after X number of units get sold. It does sound like they gave Nintendo a great deal up front though.

 

[Mediking]

Let's go! Just reveal it so I can buy it!

 

[Vanillalite]

What are the downsides of a Jan reveal? It seems to be the perfect time if they are on sched for a spring release.

People might adjust their purchases accordingly if they know the NX is coming before the Holidays. January means out of site out of mind in terms of Holiday spending. So people don't budget or wait.

YMMV on how much that ultimately matters.

 

[The_Lump]

Anyone else noted that the measurements don't quite seem to chime witht he images? Like it should be a lot wider than either of those images portray. 200mm x 90mm is a rather long rectangle for the screen section. Working on a drawing now, will upload

 

[DecoReturns]

Because the leaks are getting more and more detailed by the day. I won't be surprised if even more tangible information get released in the near future. I don't think this is the position they want to be in.

I don't think it matters to much. All these are still "rumors" in a way. We still don't know what it really looks like and have really no clue what kind of games are being made for it. I mean the thing that gets people really excited are the games. They shouldn't be force to reveal based on rumors floating around.

 

[ASIS]

Don't know if it's been posted, but Laura clarified that they are indeed circle pads.

....wat....

 

[Schnozberry]

Don't know if it's been posted, but Laura clarified that they are indeed circle pads.

I'm actually pretty happy about this. They are great for portable play. I'm guessing we see rebranded Pro Controllers for Home Use.

 

[QaaQer]

If they had a portable and a console that shared the same ecosystem they could do both cheaply and with more power.

Your gimping both by doing a hybrid. A console with ps4 level power with no screen is doable for 250.

A portable with Wii U type power could be done for 199 or less. Doing both as a hybrid will drive up the price of both, limit the power and cut back on sales because of limited skus. It's a lose lose for Nintendo and a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Makes no sense really.

It does if Nintendo sees separate home consoles as a lost cause but they don't want to lose the 5-10 million core Nintendo console customers. The addition of a tv out is adds little to the cost of the unit and a hybrid can be sold to those who only want tv gaming, whereas a handheld only cannot.

Also, any word on circle pads vs actual sticks?

 

[OrbitalBeard]

That's ridiculous, I'm sure the original iteration won't have some purposefully glaring technical/design flaw that makes a design imminent/necessary...

That... that's not Nintendo's MO...

I was joking.

Because the leaks are getting more and more detailed by the day. I won't be surprised if even more tangible information get released in the near future. I don't think this is the position they want to be in.

The EG report gave us the most important info already. Everything else is just gravy at this point. Nintendo should reveal the NX when they're confident in making a lasting first impression.

 

[Fourth Storm]

I'm actually pretty happy about this. They are great for portable play. I'm guessing we see rebranded Pro Controllers for Home Use.

Yeah, I'm assuming this as well. Wonder if the pads will click, though. And nothing about shoulder buttons yet. They need at least the bog standard Wii U setup to play Zelda.

 

[Haint]

$250 is likely, but $199 is ideal, I know Nintendo doesn't want to take a loss on the hardware but it might be necessary to have them out of the range of ps4 and xbox one

PS4 Slim is really stripped down and a very poor value next to $299 Xbone S. Very good chance it sells for $249, and I wouldn't even be shocked for Sony to go for the killing blow with $199 considering they have a $399+ Neo to offset the reduced revenue and profits.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Question for the active dock hopers is...What is the SCD supposed to exchange data with? It can't be through juts HDMI, unless the mobile tegra is turned off when docked...But then it just becomes a home console that turns your tablet off for no reason.

So...Dumb HDMI passthrough dock plus some USB ports seems very likely.

 

[wrowa]

....wat....

What did you expect? Normal sticks would be too big for a portable device. They could small Vita-like sticks, but personally I always found 3DS's circle pad far superior (... I actually like them a lot even compared to normal sticks, so this change doesn't really bother me either).

 

[QaaQer]

Depends on contract clauses. If it becomes a huge hit Nvidia may see royalties kick in after X number of units get sold. It does sound like they gave Nintendo a great deal up front though.

definitely. They could also be looking to take a cut of 3rd party sales. Nvidia CEO is a shark and plays dirty-count your fingers and all that.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

I was joking.

I was agreeing with your joke!

Spoiler

No backlight OG GBA and sin ugly Phat DS/3DS

 

[Mpl90]

Honestly, I hope the final unit is a bit smaller, especially the width: way too much unused space, sincerly hoping it's greatily reduced when we get it in our hands. I'd like the thickness to be smaller too, and I'd say it's possible, considering that rumour about dev kits powered by an X1 heavily vented...a huge and noisy fan increases the thickness, and if final NX features a different Nvidia chip, based on Pascal architecture, it can be sleeker.

 

[Vanillalite]

It would be nice to have something modern and sleek looking from the get go. Would help a lot with initial impressions too IMO.

 

[QaaQer]

Don't know if it's been posted, but Laura clarified that they are indeed circle pads.

Cheers, missed that.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

I was agreeing with your joke!

Spoiler

No backlight OG GBA and sin ugly Phat DS/3DS

I kind of figured you were, but I was just covering my bases lol

 

[Wandering Robot]

All that secrecy Nintendo wanted to maintain is going to be kind of moot if these rumors end up being reality. I know we're talking about a prototype here, as well as that Nintendo will likely be coming clean soon, but after so long...you kind of lose control.
Really hoping the NX is region-free, though.

 

[ASIS]

I don't think it matters to much. All these are still "rumors" in a way. We still don't know what it really looks like and have really no clue what kind of games are being made for it. I mean the thing that gets people really excited are the games. They shouldn't be force to reveal based on rumors floating around.

The EG report gave us the most important info already. Everything else is just gravy at this point. Nintendo should reveal the NX when they're confident in making a lasting first impression.

You both make good points but I want it revealed regardless of all that. There I said it

What did you expect? Normal sticks would be too big for a portable device. They could small Vita-like sticks, but personally I always found 3DS's circle pad far superior (... I actually like them a lot even compared to normal sticks, so this change doesn't really bother me either).

I'm aware of that but they would be very uncomfortable for home use.