Given the dimensions in the OP (92mm high) there is very little room top and bottom for a bezel if it's a 6.2inch screen, no matter which way you look at it (assuming a regular aspect ratio).
Must be a camera somewhere though!
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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock
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Given the dimensions in the OP (92mm high) there is very little room top and bottom for a bezel if it's a 6.2inch screen, no matter which way you look at it (assuming a regular aspect ratio).
Must be a camera somewhere though!
AndrewDean84xX
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I just want new Nintendo hardware and the new Zelda.
mrhyderager
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My immediate disappointment here is that the previous claims that it would outpace Xbox One and PS4 hardware-wise appear to have been untrue.
I love Nintendo, but their need to be gimmicky sometimes outweighs their ability to compete.
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I love Nintendo, but their need to be gimmicky sometimes outweighs their ability to compete.
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GiantBreadbug
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Also somehow forgot to comment on it til now but
holy SHIT no region locking?!?! I know dev kits and all but please be true. I'm moving to Japan about the time the NX launches and I wanted to be able to play certain games in English, so this would be welcome news.
Also, why are people expressing disappointment at the power now (again)?
None of this news has much to do with that part of speculation, I didn't think.
holy SHIT no region locking?!?! I know dev kits and all but please be true. I'm moving to Japan about the time the NX launches and I wanted to be able to play certain games in English, so this would be welcome news.
Also, why are people expressing disappointment at the power now (again)?
None of this news has much to do with that part of speculation, I didn't think.
Fourth Storm
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^^^^Nice work!^^^^
Laura updated her article saying that the source responsible for the dimensions is unreliable. I wouldn't use those figures anymore, but we can still use the 6.2" screen for mockups. I'm not expecting huge bezels this time around and the lack of a recessed resistive touch screen should work wonders for aesthetics. Still, I'd expect there to be room for a front-facing camera somewhere.
Laura updated her article saying that the source responsible for the dimensions is unreliable. I wouldn't use those figures anymore, but we can still use the 6.2" screen for mockups. I'm not expecting huge bezels this time around and the lack of a recessed resistive touch screen should work wonders for aesthetics. Still, I'd expect there to be room for a front-facing camera somewhere.
I don't recall hearing such claims outside of the fringe Polaris circles.
Nobody say free-form display.
Good to know, thanks. I've updated my own mockup to what I think makes sense given all the info.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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Whenever the NX is hooked or docked to a TV what will be showed on the controller screen? Will it be used as the screen on the Wii U gamepad?
If it's docked, probably nothing since it will not be in use. If there is a hooked up mode, probably similar to GanePad use but it sounds like a path to long cords and clunkiness. Maybe as some posited you can use the HH as a controller abs stream it to the TV.
Principate
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Aaaah that makes a lot of sense I was wondering how this thing was going to work but with the information about the wii mote motion sensors it makes sense. Both of the detachable controllers are wii motes (or basically mini wii motes) when they detach the loss of the the second analogue is mitigated using wii motion technology so techincally you can play all games with one detached wii controller.
Skittzo0413
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It's been speculated that when the NX is docked the screen will be turned off, which allows the processors to run at a higher speed, since the screen is no longer drawing power and heat.
Edit:
The CPU report is still likely accurate, since the Jaguars in the PS4 and XB1 are actually that bad. It depends on how the CPU is clocked in the final unit, but if it's close to the CPU on a stock TX1 or Parker then it will be a good deal more powerful than those of the PS4/XB1.
There was also IndieGamerChick. I remember there was a time where many thought this would be the case based off her, 10k's 4 supposed sources, the vague industry leading chips comment, and LCGeek's mention of the CPU power. Good times.
I really dislike the circle pad. Tell me, would it at least be feasible to make them clickable this time around? Or maybe it's a prototype thing. Breath of the Wild makes use of the clickable thing doesn't it? :/
Other than that things are looking good though. Sounds like an great handheld at the very least
Other than that things are looking good though. Sounds like an great handheld at the very least
Just thought of another thing.
If you take off the side controller pieces and use them as mini-controllers, then the buttons are gonna be arranged wrong (B on left, A on bottom, X on right, Y on top).
Would Nintendo really want their button arrangement different when turned over? It doesn't help that the letters would be sideways. You could always suggest they remove the letters altogether, but considering their new slogan adorning them in it's logo, I doubt they're going anywhere.
If you take off the side controller pieces and use them as mini-controllers, then the buttons are gonna be arranged wrong (B on left, A on bottom, X on right, Y on top).
Would Nintendo really want their button arrangement different when turned over? It doesn't help that the letters would be sideways. You could always suggest they remove the letters altogether, but considering their new slogan adorning them in it's logo, I doubt they're going anywhere.
most rumors put it somewhere between 2xWiiU and close to X1, but not past it. Dont recall any mainline rumors saying it would be more powerful than PS4/X1
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Fixed that for you. We've known this for a while now.
GiantBreadbug
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You could fix it even further, since the NX as it's being described in leaks is both a home console device and a handheld.
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I don't think this has been put in the thread yet: Emily Rogers updated her prototype hardware rumor post to say she'd heard it was 14mm thick, rather than 25mm. Pretty big difference, which is interesting.
Sounda honestly like we're hearing rumors coming from two different dev kit generations or prototypes in time. Would explain the size changes.
Thanks for the info. Makes sense then that LPVG debunked its dimensions info.
Unsure if you saw, but LPVG debunked its earlier dimensions. It's in a note at the top of their article. They said something to the effect of, everything else was corroborated but that the dimensions came from a source they have now deemed less reliable and that the dimensions (but nothing else in their rumor) should now be taken as not necessarily accurate.
(Bolded in case others missed it.)
Yeah. It being that thin is better for looks, but that's going to mean very limiting thermals. We'll have to see how this goes. I'm going to play it safe and predict 2 SMs at 400-500MHz and 6 Cortex A53 cores at 0.8-1.3GHz.
I'm going to speculate this probably played a role in Laura updating her article later. You know, giving a bit deeper attention to specific details, more confrontation with other sources, etc.etc.
Emily also states that the final product might be thicker in case they want a bigger battery.
This is getting silly.
Another question: so we know Emily has some stuff she's reported on that other sources also believe. But which things do each of said sources disagree on? Any conflicting reports?
Because I could've sworn there was at least one or so that was questioning the legitimacy of the split controller multiplayer thing Eurogamer and Emily backed, amongst other stuff.
Another question: so we know Emily has some stuff she's reported on that other sources also believe. But which things do each of said sources disagree on? Any conflicting reports?
Because I could've sworn there was at least one or so that was questioning the legitimacy of the split controller multiplayer thing Eurogamer and Emily backed, amongst other stuff.
New comment from Emily.
What if you can attach it on both sides?
I mean you could turn it upside down, that way you can choose what control you want on the upside!
Maybe thats why we got 2 sources saying different things.
Skittzo0413
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I believe that was IGN who said that they hadn't heard that the two detachable controllers would work for multiplayer. They weren't questioning the legitimacy of that, they were just stating that they hadn't heard it.
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Yep. Personally, I'm hoping for something thicker just because if this is replacing both their handheld and console systems, I want it to be as powerful as possible.
14mm is more than fine. If you make it too thin it can have dissipation problems (which also means less powerful hardware) and it becomes uncomfortable to hold.
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you realize you'd be turning it sideways and it'd be the same placement
For example the right attached controller.
The 3d stick is at the bottom and buttons abbove. Detached it and turn it 180 degrees and put it back in. You will have now the 3d stick at the top and buttons below
It's just so you can choose your own configuration
RavageDark
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Am I the only person who feels as if this this supposed prototype is too Wii U-ish?
Why? Do you want this thing to only be as powerful as Vita? Even less? 14mm is thin enough. You people are too obsessed with aesthetics. With a thick plastic casing at 14mm, I'm not confident in this being more than 50% faster than Wii U.
No. I think that's safe. Even in the best case around 650MHz for the GPU is about the max unless the case is metal.
UnemployedVillain
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This is what bothers me about these rumor threads. At any point a source can be debunked or validated/vetted, seemingly arbitrarily because we don't know any of these people. It all just sounds like bullshit. People with bits and pieces of actual info, extrapolating the rest, and an elaborate game of telephone ensuing as that info is conveyed through increasingly second hand means
That's why they're called rumours.
For reference, the 3DS launched with 240p 5 years ago... when you claim 720p was already becoming the standard. Nintendo has consistently been far behind the curve with their handheld screens with only meager jumps in resolution each gen, and the idea that they're suddenly going to jump to HD for a dedicated handheld just for the sake of having it doesn't make sense to me. They're not going to drive the costs up and make a more expensive device just for the luxury of having an HD screen- this company has made it clear that they don't do things like that. If NX is going to include a console, I'd expect the handheld to be a little more modest. It could still run console games with a 540p or 480p screen, for instance.
And if they're going to have a dedicated console... why bother connecting the handheld to the TV at all? Why put so much emphasis on using the handheld as a console if they're going to specifically design a console to perform that same function and play the same games? Wouldn't it undercut that hypothetical later-releasing console's appeal if the handheld could already give people that same function? The only real need to buy the console would be more power, but again, Nintendo is absolutely not the kind of company that caters to that kind of thing.
I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying it doesn't seem plausible that Nintendo would shoulder the extra expense and release a high-powered handheld that can function as a home console if they were also going to release a console dedicated to doing that same thing. If they're going to have two systems, why not keep them as focused and cost-efficient as possible? Why so much unneeded overlap?
But the point is that not everyone needs both devices. In Japan, the handheld is clearly the more important system. In the west, the console will probably matter more. Part of the appeal of the NX (as I was anticipating it) was that it would solve those kinds of regional problems by letting people choose whichever form they prefer by making the form factor unimportant; the same software sells either way, so Nintendo could afford to mainly just push a handheld in Japan and let the console stay in the background. They could do the reverse in the west, although handhelds do pretty well here.
If the same software is running across both devices, I think the number of people who would want to buy both would decrease sharply. I have a 3DS, but I mostly play it at home. I just like it for the games. If I could play all of those on a console, I'd probably not have bothered with a portable.
Why force everyone to pay a higher price for one device when people could buy a cheaper system better suited to the type of play they want?
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Does your ass ever get sore pulling out all the numbers???
The bolded is not helping since it's confusing things.
So we have two NX dev kits where one is 25mm thick, other is 14mm thick. No model numbers to determine what is old/new.
You'd think the thinner model would be closer to the final product.
Actually they were based on volume calculations. Either way, people hoping for a 7mm tablet with 2x Wii U power are delusional.
Prototypes*
People are annoyed with the way you frame everything. It's obviously intentional and it's grating for people.
Was going to post this. I'd imagine you'll be able to flip them around to your liking.
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