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[James Scott]

Now there's some good news. That's a big deal for Nintendo.

I'm intensely curious as to whether they themselves will be using UE4 or something for their first-party games, especially EAD stuff. They're not big on external engines, but jumping from gamecube-level technology to xbone-level tech in the span of 5 years seems like it would be impossible without third-party tools.

They have the BOTW engine which I imagine is pretty good especially for the platform and they can build upon it. I do think it might be wise for Nintendo to make a game on it, maybe RETRO, would allow for it to get further optimized on the system.
I also wonder what this means for japanese games on UE4. Getting a PS4 and an NX port (assuming NX does near 3DS numbers in japan at least) would mean that it would reach quite a large audience and the ports shouldn't be too difficult. Interested in seeing how DQXI turns out, maybe that means games like KH3 can be ported as the audience for it has been built on Nintendo handhelds for over a decade now

The 3DS circle pads are fantastic. Never understood the complaints.

I'm not a huge fan. It's fine for a lot of 3DS games but if they can improve upon it, maybe adding clickable sticks then maybe it could be good. An upgrade kind of like PSP circle pad vs 3DS's would be nice

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

Starting to really believe camera control is going to be handled by eye tracking as the gimmick. Based on the placement (lack?)of second analog, that old patent, and this beer in my hand.

They're not putting eye tracking in.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

There's a difference between raw power & real-world performance. I believe Emily Rogers said something along those lines a few months back. Considering that the NX runs on a completely different architecture, it's like comparing apples & oranges.

Heh, yall are going to keep saying that until its a wii u with a slightly faster CPU

 

[CrisKre]

Wound´t it be possible as well to have the conrollers be female and have the male unit "hide" the plugs under the screen if the body is ticker and angled a few inches in the back of the screen thowards the center? That may be the most elegant solution granted the design allows it.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

But I've played two 3D Zeldas and two top-down Zeldas with the circle pad and it's been fine?

Who cares? You didnt play bayonetta or W101 with a circle pad..

what kind of thought processes yall be on to validate this jank?

 

[Plinko]

I'm not a huge fan. It's fine for a lot of 3DS games but if they can improve upon it, maybe adding clickable sticks then maybe it could be good. Kind of like PSP circle pad vs 3DS's

I HATED the PSP sticks. Hated them. Those were the absolute worst.

 

[ggx2ac]

Wound´t it be possible as well to have the conrollers be female and have the male unit "hide" the plugs under the screen if the body is ticker and angled a few inches in the back of the screen thowards the center? That may be the most elegant solution granted the design allows it.

Who knows. Maybe there is space inside the controllers to be able to retract the connector which would solve this Wii Remote problem.

 

[James Scott]

I HATED the PSP sticks. Hated them. Those were the absolute worst.

I meant the upgrade from PSP to 3DS circle pads. It's was a fairly big upgrade so I hope another big upgrade happens if they do stick with this. I think they had a few patents related to it. Add friction to the top so it doesn't start slipping and more precision I guess

 

[RavageDark]

I have to say that if the NX comes out and is exactly what's been described—no more and no less—I think they've failed to develop a piece of compelling hardware.

They need to knock this console out of the park, to give consumers a concept that's distant from the Wii and Wii U but also brings a fresh, unique idea to gaming.

But conceptually, this is basically just a Wii U console and gamepad combined into one unit. I'm having a hard time looking at it and putting my finger on the "wow factor". Where's the hook? The same gaming on the go as you get at home, sure, but we've seen that before. It was basically the selling point for both PSP and Vita. And the success of full console experiences as portable games is fairly dubious to say the least.

I think I'll enjoy it and I would definitely be interested in a device like this one, but quite honestly this concept of the NX feels really... safe and uninspired. They looked at the Wii U and took the next evolutionary step; that's all.

My thoughts exactly.

This whole thing is so Wii U-ish, I legit wonder if the prototype they're reporting on is an old Wii U dev kit.

 

[Renkax]

God why do they think always putting the headphone jack on the bottom is the right thing ?! 😭😭😭

 

[Neoxon]

Heh, yall are going to keep saying that until its a wii u with a slightly faster CPU

Didn't Emily say that it would blow the Wii U out of the water? It won't beat the PS4, but she did say 2x stronger than the Wii U minimum. In addition, one of our own did say that the NX could run ports of PS4/XB1 games with no issue.

 

[Dark Cloud]

Any new news?

 

[maxcriden]

Thread's moving a bit fast for me to keep up now.

Any new leaks or rumors or tweets of note since circle pads were confirmed and the original dimensions were debunked and Emily provided a new thickness measurement?

 

[Oddduck]

Thread's moving a bit fast for me to keep up now.

Any new leaks or rumors or tweets of note since circle pads were confirmed and the original dimensions were debunked and Emily provided new ones?

She only commented on the thickness.

Thickness of the device

Update: I heard the prototype was around 14mm in thickness. Maybe a tiny bit more than that. Laura Kate Dale heard 25mm from her source. Which is different from what I’ve heard.

Update 2: Second source said thickness of NX prototype is closer to the bottom half of the New Nintendo 3DS XL.

 

[ASIS]

I'd like to be positive..but I'm struggling to see how you can get a solution that doesn't compromise the control on the home console, handheld..or perhaps even both. What's superior for one form is inferior for another...and vice versa.

I don't know either. But if anything helps then I remember the early reports on the Wii U gamepad stated that the circle pads were very comfortable, maybe that's what they are going after with this?

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Didn't Emily say that it would blow the Wii U out of the water? It won't beat the PS4, but she did say 2x stronger than the Wii U minimum. In addition, one of our own did say that the NX could run ports of PS4/XB1 games with no issue.

I'll believe when I see it. This thing running any of EA frostbite games will be a good thing to watch. Battlefield 1 on xbox one already look blurry

 

[Vanillalite]

So Sept is here.

Hope for everyone's GAF sanity we hear something sooner rather than later lol

 

[GDGF]

They're not putting eye tracking in.

Mostly the beer in my hand then

 

[Stone Ocean]

The 3DS circle pads are fantastic. Never understood the complaints.

They feel flimsy and unrensponsive and don't move as much as they should which hurts.my fingers that are used to normal analogs. Its like the physical version of virtual analogs and its awful.

 

[CrisKre]

Also, many of the mockups are not considering the device will need to have a sensor bar if the wii remotes rumors are too be believed

 

[Vanillalite]

The 3DS circle pads are fantastic. Never understood the complaints.

They are okay for things like 3d platformers or action adventure games.

Dual sliders wouldn't be great for first person stuff though.

 

[UnemployedVillain]

God why do they think always putting the headphone jack on the bottom is the right thing ?! 😭😭😭

Because it is? Who in their right mind would want it at the top?! You lose the part of the cord wrapped around the back

 

[PadWarrior]

Wii u pro controller support is all I ask for.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

I don't know either. But if anything helps then I remember the early reports on the Wii U gamepad stated that the circle pads were very comfortable, maybe that's what they are going after with this?

They probably were but not practical for certain games. How you gonna play cod with a circle pad

 

[RadioJoNES64]

God why do they think always putting the headphone jack on the bottom is the right thing ?! ������

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Because it is? Who in their right mind would want it at the top?! You lose the part of the cord wrapped around the back

Those of us who want to lay the system down and have headphones in?

 

[Stone Ocean]

Also, many of the mockups are not considering the device will need to have a sensor bar if the wii remotes rumors are too be believed

What if the sensor bar is part of the dock?

 

[Somnid]

Starting to really believe camera control is going to be handled by eye tracking as the gimmick. Based on the placement (lack?)of second analog, that old patent, and this beer in my hand.

Now that you mention it all this talk and we haven't heard about a camera. I'd be shocked if that was dropped so I guess that means we still know jack about the actual layout.

 

[atbigelow]

Also, many of the mockups are not considering the device will need to have a sensor bar if the wii remotes rumors are too be believed

Only if they are doing pointer tracking. They can retain compatibility with the motion tracking and not worry about pointer data.

 

[ASIS]

They probably were but not practical for certain games. How you gonna play cod with a circle pad

You don't, you use the Wii Remote for that .

Ok seriously, the Circle Pads shouldn't be as resistive as they are on the 3DS. Remember this thing is larger than a 3DS so..

wait..

Can someone create a mockup comparing the size of the controller relative the sides of the 3DS? (the parts with the the buttons and circle pad).

 

[ggx2ac]

I'm laughing at the reactions:
Somehow, the NX isn't so special because we're looking at a dev kit. Apparently, the NX isn't different to a Wii U that it supposedly makes "sense" to keep a dead console around that's only going to have one game next year when the new system will get loads more games.

Nothing has been finalised yet, I am not going to be surprised when the NX is revealed because the first thing it will be compared to is the PS4 Neo since that will be revealed in a week. The NX is going to be different enough to a PS4 yet, people will ignore features just to focus on power and mention why it's not using "Supercharged x86".

 

[Spectromixer]

What are the chances that we a mention of the NX or an NX direct in tomorrow's 3DS one?

 

[Roo]

What are the chances that we a mention of the NX or an NX direct in tomorrow's 3DS one?

0%

 

[risq_aus]

What are the chances that we a mention of the NX or an NX direct in tomorrow's 3DS one?

And so it begins

 

[Dark Cloud]

That's what I expect. Honestly I don't think the detachable controllers will be usable for every game, but rather for specifically designed party games that don't require a full breadth of button options. You'll have your thumbstick, 4 face buttons and the trigger with maybe the shoulder button also in play. That 6 total, with 4 as an absolute minimum. That's more than enough for a lot multiplayer games. Wii survived on less. Not to mention possible motion control or gyro.

Yeah, I think they could easily put a "B" style trigger button in the back. The Wii remote proved it worked and these controllers will be smaller so your thumbs can easily touch whatever is in the back of the remotes.

 

[jett]

That prototype is one huge bitch. The screen dimensions being talked about turn this machine from portable into "portable" to be honest.

 

[Jorok Goldblade]

What are the chances that we a mention of the NX or an NX direct in tomorrow's 3DS one?

I feel like they have to, but they probably won't.

 

[Dark Cloud]

What are the chances that we a mention of the NX or an NX direct in tomorrow's 3DS one?

50% chance I would say. Either they do or they don't.

 

[I Wanna Be The Guy]

What if the sensor bar is part of the dock?

Then the wiimotes will not be useable in handheld form which would be stupid. I think it's safe to assume that if the system does have detatchable wiimotes then it will have a sensor bar built in to the top of the device like the Wii U gamepad.

 

[ggx2ac]

Then the wiimotes will not be useable in handheld form which would be stupid. I think it's safe to assume that if the system does have detatchable wiimotes then it will have a sensor bar built in to the top of the device like the Wii U gamepad.

The original rumour never mentioned IR pointers and the Wii Remote is being phased out for the new one.

I think it's more likely the new one will have gyro controls replacing the IR pointer.
(Because if they keep the IR pointer, they'd probably have to continue paying royalties to Phillips.)

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

I'm laughing at the reactions:
Somehow, the NX isn't so special because we're looking at a dev kit. Apparently, the NX isn't different to a Wii U that it supposedly makes "sense" to keep a dead console around that's only going to have one game next year when the new system will get loads more games.

Nothing has been finalised yet, I am not going to be surprised when the NX is revealed because the first thing it will be compared to is the PS4 Neo since that will be revealed in a week. The NX is going to be different enough to a PS4 yet, people will ignore features just to focus on power and mention why it's not using "Supercharged x86".

Actually you all will be funny when it is revealed next week and its the PSP trinity.lol*



*evil laugh HAHAHAHAHA

 

[ozfunghi]

So how thick is the bottom half of the new 3ds xl?

 

[majik13]

What are the chances that we a mention of the NX or an NX direct in tomorrow's 3DS one?

Well they specifically said on twitter there would be no mention of NX in this direct....but still who knows.

 

[ggx2ac]

So how thick is the bottom half of the new 3ds xl?

I'm assuming you said this because I can only find measurements when it is closed: 22mm thick (closed)

Someone has to measure it.

Edit: All I know is the bottom half should be thicker than the top half.

I'm going to guess it's from 14mm to 16mm

 

[ASIS]

Then the wiimotes will not be useable in handheld form which would be stupid. I think it's safe to assume that if the system does have detatchable wiimotes then it will have a sensor bar built in to the top of the device like the Wii U gamepad.

Do any of the rumors say anything about IR for NX controllers?

 

[RavageDark]

I'm laughing at the reactions:
Somehow, the NX isn't so special because we're looking at a dev kit. Apparently, the NX isn't different to a Wii U that it supposedly makes "sense" to keep a dead console around that's only going to have one game next year when the new system will get loads more games.

Nothing has been finalised yet, I am not going to be surprised when the NX is revealed because the first thing it will be compared to is the PS4 Neo since that will be revealed in a week. The NX is going to be different enough to a PS4 yet, people will ignore features just to focus on power and mention why it's not using "Supercharged x86".

While I wouldn't go as far to say that Nintendo should just keep on pushing the Wii U regardless of how the NX turns out, I do think that this concept, as outlined by the prototype, is a bit concerning.

 

[Azoo]

Technically, they may never bring up NX.. But they may also tell us to tune in on a certain date for a "special announcement". :v

 

[MuchoMalo]

What are the chances that we a mention of the NX or an NX direct in tomorrow's 3DS one?

Be positive, guys! They'll announce Nintendo World 2016 at the end of the direct for sure!

 

[JayWood2010]

We don't know how old this devkit is- all I'm saying is that the design of a devkit or prototype is not that indicative of the design of the final product.

As to your second point, I never said or implied any of that. If this device is exactly like the mockups and rumors then yes, it will do terribly and be a nightmare to market. What I'm saying is that these rumors and mockups are based on second hand reports of a devkit or prototype, and we don't even know if it's the current devkit. I'm saying that you should not assume the final product will be designed exactly like these rumors. It will likely have all of the rumored features, but the design may be wildly different.



I'm referring to the Shield console, which does have a TX1 and is sold for $199. The major hardware difference between that and the rumored NX* is the screen, battery and controls, and the screen and controls will not be expensive whatsoever. I think Nintendo could keep this under $199 depending on the battery and storage they're putting in. $250 is definitely possible though too.

*Ignoring the Pascal rumor for the purposes of the price comparison.

Ah i see. Didnt think about Shield TV. Was thinking more on the portable side.

 

[ggx2ac]

While I wouldn't go as far to say that Nintendo should just keep on pushing the Wii U regardless of how the NX turns out, I do think that this concept, as outlined by the prototype, is a bit concerning.

That's the weird part. People are reacting like this now when we had an idea of the NX since the Eurogamer report.

It's as though a lot of people lack imagination or they really don't want the NX hybrid to get rid of home consoles because people can't be bothered to build a PC if they're so concerned about power.

 

[AzaK]

If true, this kills any idea of the augmenting dock right? TV connector is for direct to TV or Dock = HDMI = suckage.