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[Dark Cloud]

In what way? I see nothing of this on WiiU, XboxOne or PS4.
Kinect failed, PS Move failed, Wiimote failed (in the end). And i like motion controls.

VR I think uses them.

If all of these rumors prove to be accurate, which is looking increasingly likely, and if there is no other major selling point announced beyond its form factor (this is a big "if", but I'm going with it for now), then I have to say the NX is starting to look like a disappointing product... and I'm not talking about its power.

I think for us it's know we'll get a lot more games from Nintendo now that it's all consolidated. Like Nintendo said they're going for the blue ocean market and they would create something that appeals more to them, since they're the bigger market.

To me this is looking more true

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/pok-mon-mario-and-zelda-headline-nx-dream-line-up/0170678

Game graphics will be ‘somewhere between a PS3 and PS4’, with Nintendo targeting an audience that sits between smartphone gamers and the more hardcore users of PS4 and Xbox One.

“It’s a nice bit of kit, a bit of a novelty, but a good one,” said one exec that has got hands on with the machine. “It won’t appeal to PS4 fans. Nintendo seems set on trying to upgrade smartphone gamers. That’s going to be a big job for the marketing department.”

 

[Duckhuntdog]

He says the info is legit as fuck.

GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME

On a scale of 1 to SuperMetalDave, why should we trust him?

 

[Silent_Ocarina]

All Etika says is that NX news is coming soon. We're already expecting information sometime this month, so that's hardly a revelation. He says himself he doesn't know what the NX consists of. His excitement is purely just from his alleged contact telling him that it's being revealed soon.

 

[Some Nobody]

If all of these rumors prove to be accurate, which is looking increasingly likely, and if there is no other major selling point announced beyond its form factor (this is a big "if", but I'm going with it for now), then I have to say the NX is starting to look like a disappointing product... and I'm not talking about its power.

I don't get this personally, but honestly I'm just hyped at the potential of Pokemon, Fire Emblem, and Monolith Soft's new games all with somewhat decent graphics. Like, even if they're around XBX-level that's more than good enough for me.

All Etika says is that NX news is coming soon. We're already expecting information sometime this month, so that's hardly a revelation. He says himself he doesn't know what the NX consists of. His excitement is purely just from his alleged contact telling him that it's being revealed soon.

I wanna say this sounds weird, but in reality Nintendo Directs are usually announced the day before they happen. There's really NO reason they have to do this differently--they'd just be announcing a release date for the NX and could hype it up from that Direct on giving you reasons to buy it. So honestly? This could literally happen at any moment. We could wake up one day in two weeks and Nintendo could be going: "Special NX-related presentation tomorrow" and that'd be that.

 

[NoFaceNico]

If all of these rumors prove to be accurate, which is looking increasingly likely, and if there is no other major selling point announced beyond its form factor (this is a big "if", but I'm going with it for now), then I have to say the NX is starting to look like a disappointing product... and I'm not talking about its power.

Agree.

It's looking like Wii U2

Wii.... U2....

Two of the worst fucking things that have ever infested this god forsaken planet.

The grand finale for The Year of Nightmares is yet to come!

Spoiler

and it won't be The Last Guardian. fuck you.

 

[Peterthumpa]

If all of these rumors prove to be accurate, which is looking increasingly likely, and if there is no other major selling point announced beyond its form factor (this is a big "if", but I'm going with it for now), then I have to say the NX is starting to look like a disappointing product... and I'm not talking about its power.

And what were you expecting, exactly? The whole hybrid concept is old news, not sure what else you think Nintendo would come up with?

Also, you probably felt even worse when Sony announced the PS4 and Microsoft announcing the Xbox One, right? I mean, what are these consoles besides hardware upgrades when looking at the last gen? We're playing the same games, only prettier.

At least Nintendo is trying something different and the confirmation that I can commute with the same console that I use at home, on my TV, is a freaking good selling point to me.

In the end, what really matters are the games anyway.

 

[Skiesofwonder]

If all of these rumors prove to be accurate, which is looking increasingly likely, and if there is no other major selling point announced beyond its form factor (this is a big "if", but I'm going with it for now), then I have to say the NX is starting to look like a disappointing product... and I'm not talking about its power.

Agreed.

IF the major "gimmicks" this go around are detachable controllers for on-the-go multiplayer and a HDMI-out port.... l'm not really sure how that classifies as a "brand new idea" like Nintendo has been preaching. I'm also not sure how they would expect such a piece of hardware to set the world on fire unless it has a crazy amount of great software and/or is cheap as dirt.

That said, I really don't think we are anywhere close to having the full picture yet.

 

[Malus]

On a scale of 1 to SuperMetalDave, why should we trust him?

Here is the comprehensive argument for trusting him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeRQD0tK8h0

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

There are some things I don't like about these rumors but a 720p screen on a system that I can play anywhere...
with more power than the Wii U and no fractured software???

I'm pretty pumped.

 

[AgeEighty]

I don't get this personally, but honestly I'm just hyped at the potential of Pokemon, Fire Emblem, and Monolith Soft's new games all with somewhat decent graphics. Like, even if they're around XBX-level that's more than good enough for me.

I'm excited about those things, but because I like Nintendo's games I also have a vested interest in their hardware selling well to the general public.

With this product I'm not seeing a very compelling concept that the public will jump at. What's the back-of-the-box sales pitch? "The same games as always, but just more of them" isn't good enough. "The same games at home and in your pocket" has been done before. Not only that, but this thing frankly looks a lot like a Wii U (at least like the Gamepad, which is what many people associate with the Wii U). Won't people look at this and wonder how it's any different than their last hardware?

I'm not saying it doesn't interest me personally; I'm saying I think Nintendo needs to produce a piece of hardware with a high desirability factor for kids and parents, something people can look at and understand why they'd want it without a lot of explanation, and if this is all the NX is (again, not saying it is), I don't think they've succeeded.

 

[XenodudeX]

If all of these rumors prove to be accurate, which is looking increasingly likely, and if there is no other major selling point announced beyond its form factor (this is a big "if", but I'm going with it for now), then I have to say the NX is starting to look like a disappointing product... and I'm not talking about its power.

I'd have to agree. This hybrid shit just isn't appealing to me. I don't really see this doing well.

 

[Possumowner]

There are some things I don't like about these rumors but a 720p screen on a system that I can play anywhere...
with more power than the Wii U and no fractured software???

I'm pretty pumped.

Exactly my feelings,this is looking like the most powerful handheld yet which has me extremely excited.Way to much negativity in Nintendo threads.

 

[Stiflers Mom]

Agreed.

IF the major "gimmicks" this go around are detachable controllers for on-the-go multiplayer and a HDMI-out port.... l'm not really sure how that classifies as a "brand new idea" like Nintendo has been preaching. I'm also not sure how they would expect such a piece of hardware to set the world on fire unless it has a crazy amount of great software and/or is cheap as dirt.

That said, I really don't think we are anywhere close to having the full picture yet.

Didn't one of the later PSP-Models have an HDMI-out?

It's not even a new idea, then.

I really hope they have a few tricks up their sleeves, cause this won't cut it.

 

[AgeEighty]

Also, you probably felt even worse when Sony announced the PS4 and Microsoft announcing the Xbox One, right? I mean, what are these consoles besides hardware upgrades when looking at the last gen? We're playing the same games, only prettier.

Sony and Microsoft, as the two console makers whose focus is known to be strictly on power and power alone, have the advantage of not needing to do anything compelling with their hardware. It just needs to be powerful, not too expensive, and have all the latest third party games. The PS4 has sold like gangbusters and it's one of the most uninspired pieces of console hardware ever made, but when you're already on top and have the support of third parties, that really doesn't matter.

At least Nintendo is trying something different and the confirmation that I can commute with the same console that I use at home, on my TV, is a freaking good selling point to me.

I'm glad you like it. I like it too! But I honestly don't see this as "different" enough; that's my point. They took the concept of the Wii U and just combined the console and Gamepad into one unit. It'll be great to have all their games on one system, but honestly I don't know if that's a compelling enough bullet point to move a lot of units to the general public.

 

[KAL2006]

If all of these rumors prove to be accurate, which is looking increasingly likely, and if there is no other major selling point announced beyond its form factor (this is a big "if", but I'm going with it for now), then I have to say the NX is starting to look like a disappointing product... and I'm not talking about its power.

For me it's the opposite. As a person who owns a PS4 already and doesn't care about power or 3rd party multiplatform games as I play those on my PS4. This has me really interested. I can do with a good handheld that I can also play on the TV. The fact that Nintendo will release all their games on one system so I don't have to buy 2 is the biggest major selling point for me.

 

[EDarkness]

Exactly my feelings,this is looking like the most powerful handheld yet which has me extremely excited.Way to much negativity in Nintendo threads.

I think it's because the portable guys are getting what they hope and the console guys are getting pretty much nothing. A handheld that can be played on the TV? Extremely original. Heh, heh.

 

[Malus]

I'm excited about those things, but because I like Nintendo's games I also have a vested interest in their hardware selling well to the general public.

With this product I'm not seeing a very compelling concept that the public will jump at. What's the back-of-the-box sales pitch? "The same games as always, but just more of them" isn't good enough. "The same games at home and in your pocket" has been done before. Not only that, but this thing frankly looks a lot like a Wii U (at least like the Gamepad, which is what many people associate with the Wii U). Won't people look at this and wonder how it's any different than their last hardware?

I'm not saying it doesn't interest me personally; I'm saying I think Nintendo needs to produce a piece of hardware with a high desirability factor for kids and parents, something people can look at and understand why they'd want it without a lot of explanation, and if this is all the NX is (again, not saying it is), I don't think they've succeeded.

If it's priced in the range of a handheld and it has good software showings to get people excited pre-release, I think it should do just fine. Cheap games console with cool looking games, add in the ability to play on the TV combined with portability and there's the opportunity for a nice value proposition here. 3DS did decently enough despite its major fumbles.

If it's more than $250 then it's gonna be a real tough sell.

Someone else brought up earlier that most people don't even know anything about Wii U lol. I don't think the Wii U comparisons will matter much to the mass market.

 

[Dark Cloud]

I'd have to agree. This hybrid shit just isn't appealing to me. I don't really see this doing well.

Come on man we have to actually see the thing first to say it won't do well. We need to see the final design and what their marketing. We need to see the games. Kimishima made it very clear games games games need to be ready for launch and after. I trust him with the games. Games can sell systems.

 

[AgeEighty]

Didn't one of the later PSP-Models have an HDMI-out?

It's not even a new idea, then.

I really hope they have a few tricks up their sleeves, cause this won't cut it.

Yeah, this is what I'm saying. "Full console games on the go!" has been done before on several occasions, by Sega, Sony and others, and none of those efforts set the world on fire. Full scale console games tend not to be the kind of things people like to play on the go, anyway.

Believe me, I'd love to be wrong. I'm hoping there's some big feature to the NX that hasn't been revealed. Even if not, I think I'll get a lot of personal use out of a machine like what we're seeing. I just also see it being met by the general public with a collective yawn.

If it's more than $250 then it's gonna be a real tough sell.

Well that's another point to be made. Most people will probably just see the NX as a handheld, and they'll evaluate its price accordingly. They won't see a home console price as acceptable. In fact, I think even a price more than $200 will be a hard sell. But if the NX isn't more than $200, its performance as a home console is likely to be very disappointing.

 

[spekkeh]

If all of these rumors prove to be accurate, which is looking increasingly likely, and if there is no other major selling point announced beyond its form factor (this is a big "if", but I'm going with it for now), then I have to say the NX is starting to look like a disappointing product... and I'm not talking about its power.

Dunno disappointing. It seems like a good evolution of the Wii U. It has more power and the use case has merit, given that I already lugged my whole Wii U around a number of times for some multiplayer gaming. If this would be easier then all the better for it. So it's a better version in every way of Wii U, and I liked Wii U so I'll get this one.

Alas there were only very few of us and it seems more evolution than revolution. Evolving on a downward momentum seems ill advised. Let's see though if the problem with Wii U was really the marketing message. Maybe being able to bring the NX with you is exactly the word of mouth Nintendo is looking for.

I have no idea what they're being so secretive about though.

 

[BreakAtmo]

I wanna say this sounds weird, but in reality Nintendo Directs are usually announced the day before they happen. There's really NO reason they have to do this differently--they'd just be announcing a release date for the NX and could hype it up from that Direct on giving you reasons to buy it. So honestly? This could literally happen at any moment. We could wake up one day in two weeks and Nintendo could be going: "Special NX-related presentation tomorrow" and that'd be that.

They already confirmed the release date as March. The reveal will probably be heavily focused on the specifics of the hardware, and maybe the software.

 

[Aldric]

Agree.

It's looking like Wii U2

Wii.... U2....

Two of the worst fucking things that have ever infested this god forsaken planet.

The grand finale for The Year of Nightmares is yet to come!

Spoiler

and it won't be The Last Guardian. fuck you.

How does it look like Wii U 2 ? It looks like what we've known for weeks now, a decently powerful handheld you can plug to your tv. Don't get me wrong l get why people would find it disappointing (l share this opinion) but l don't see how it's remotely similar to Wii U.

 

[jdstorm]

I have no idea what they're being so secretive about though.

Don't ask me to find a source. But in one of the other NX threads a poster mentioned something about wireless streaming tech being important.

Given nintendos approach of innovating with withered tech. Whatever they decided to do could probably be copied by their competitors rather quickly.

 

[KrawlMan]

Yeah, this is what I'm saying. "Full console games on the go!" has been done before on several occasions, by Sega, Sony and others, and none of those efforts set the world on fire. Full scale console games tend not to be the kind of things people like to play on the go, anyway.

Believe me, I'd love to be wrong. I'm hoping there's some big feature to the NX that hasn't been revealed. Even if not, I think I'll get a lot of personal use out of a machine like what we're seeing. I just also see it being met by the general public with a collective yawn.

I've been saying this too. I don't know what is special about the NX, but whatever it is we don't know it yet . Nothing known about this device is unique, other than it being a new direction for Nintendo. That's not enough to warrant this absurd level of secrecy.

 

[Lilalaunebaer]

So we´re back to it being just a handheld with a tv out? Not a hybrid. The PSP had a tv out.
Didn´t make it a hybrid. Pls, Nintendo, make a home console and the games cross-platform between the Handheld and Home Console, like we though before the Euro Gamer rumors.

Edit: Also, the dev kit having a tv-out, well, yeah. Why wouldn´t it, i´m sure 3DS, DS, PSP, VITA etc. Dev kits had tv-outs as well. (i don´t actually know).

 

[QaaQer]

I'm not disappointed, but I would have liked to see how a Nintendo Scorpio/Neo type device would have done in the market, a powerful $400-450 console that has all the 3rd party support and Nintendo games. They have the most valuable ips in gaming, there is no reason they could not have come out on top with a traditional console.

 

[Oregano]

I'm not disappointed, but I would have liked to see how a Nintendo Scorpio/Neo type device would have done in the market, a powerful $400-450 console that has all the 3rd party support and Nintendo games. They have the most valuable ips in gaming, there is no reason they could not have come out on top with a traditional console.

A Scorpio level Nintendo platform wouldn't have all the third party support though. Power is only a small part of that problem.

 

[AgeEighty]

So we´re back to it being just a handheld with a tv out? Not a hybrid. The PSP had a tv out.
Didn´t make it a hybrid. Pls, Nintendo, make a home console and the games cross-platform between the Handheld and Home Console, like we though before the Euro Gamer rumors.

Well we don't know that it just has a TV out on the handheld, that's just what the dev units have. But also when asked if the port was for direct TV out or docking, Laura answered "both".

There will definitely be a dock. The big question is what the scope of that dock will be. If it's more than just a dumb A/V dock and has some kind of features that make the NX more console-like—especially some kind of upclocking—that makes it a more attractive proposition. We just don't know.

Thing is, it's not the dock that's going to appear in pictures, it's the handheld. Public perception is likely to treat it as just a handheld.

A Scorpio level Nintendo platform wouldn't have all the third party support though. Power is only a small part of that problem.

I wouldn't call it a "small" part. It's not the only part, but it's the main one.

 

[Dystify]

I'm not disappointed, but I would have liked to see how a Nintendo Scorpio/Neo type device would have done in the market, a powerful $400-450 console that has all the 3rd party support and Nintendo games. They have the most valuable ips in gaming, there is no reason they could not have come out on top with a traditional console.

Unless a port costs literally almost nothing many 3rd parties will not bother with Nintendo because "their audience isn't there". At most they will try with one or a few games but then drop Nintendo's new console due to low game sales. I hope this will change sometime but I'm not getting my hopes up. I'll miss those games on NX since it's a portable (which I prefer), but now I play 3rd parties on my PC.

 

[Lilalaunebaer]

Well we don't know that it just has a TV out on the handheld, that's just what the dev units have. But also when asked if the port was for direct TV out or docking, Laura answered "both".

There will definitely be a dock. The big question is what the scope of that dock will be. If it's more than just a dumb A/V dock and has some kind of features that make the NX more console-like—especially some kind of upclocking—that makes it a more attractive proposition. We just don't know.

Thing is, it's not the dock that's going to appear in pictures, it's the handheld. Public perception is likely to treat it as just a handheld.

Oh, i´m sure it will have a dock, i´m just really sceptical about it doing more than being a A/V and USB-Hub for controllers. Not really buying the upclock thing.

 

[ShadowFox08]

All Etika says is that NX news is coming soon. We're already expecting information sometime this month, so that's hardly a revelation. He says himself he doesn't know what the NX consists of. His excitement is purely just from his alleged contact telling him that it's being revealed soon.

He doesn't know jack. He's just trying to get subscribers and views on youtube to fatten his pay check.

 

[Some Nobody]

I'm excited about those things, but because I like Nintendo's games I also have a vested interest in their hardware selling well to the general public.

With this product I'm not seeing a very compelling concept that the public will jump at. What's the back-of-the-box sales pitch? "The same games as always, but just more of them" isn't good enough. "The same games at home and in your pocket" has been done before. Not only that, but this thing frankly looks a lot like a Wii U (at least like the Gamepad, which is what many people associate with the Wii U). Won't people look at this and wonder how it's any different than their last hardware?

I'm not saying it doesn't interest me personally; I'm saying I think Nintendo needs to produce a piece of hardware with a high desirability factor for kids and parents, something people can look at and understand why they'd want it without a lot of explanation, and if this is all the NX is (again, not saying it is), I don't think they've succeeded.

Oh, me either. Ship has sailed on that. Bottom line, the NX will either prove Nintendo once again to be the luckiest company in gaming and they'll strike gold like they did with the Wii and DS, or their luck has finally run out and this is the ship they're going to go down with before going on to be a software focused company that makes more money than EA and Activision combined with the greatest selection of IPs known to gamers.

Either way, they'll get what they deserve. And so will the Nintendo hardcore, most of whom seem okay with just about *every* decision the company makes, no matter how ridiculous.

At this point? I don't care. I just want some great games to play that preferably have HD graphics. I've always wanted Pokemon but that alone isn't enough to push me to buy a portable, neither is Fire Emblem. And Monolith just etched themselves as one of my favorite devs after XBX. Anything after that? Gravy. Maybe they make a new Metroid in the vein of some of their older stuff (no first-person, exploration focus) and I really win.

 

[AgeEighty]

Oh, i´m sure it will have a dock, i´m just really sceptical about it doing more than being a A/V and USB-Hub for controllers. Not really buying the upclock thing.

I can't speak to the feasibility of a dock that significantly boosts the NX's capabilities. All I can say is that in my opinion, Nintendo isn't going to be so unimaginative as to replace their console business with a handheld that just does TV-out. This thing will have something that solidifies it as a home console alternative, or aspires to.

Oh, me either. Ship has sailed on that. Bottom line, the NX will either prove Nintendo once again to be the luckiest company in gaming and they'll strike gold like they did with the Wii and DS, or their luck has finally run out and this is the ship they're going to go down with before going on to be a software focused company that makes more money than EA and Activision combined with the greatest selection of IPs known to gamers.

Nah, even if the NX is another flop, they'll be around for another run at it. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

 

[QaaQer]

A Scorpio level Nintendo platform wouldn't have all the third party support though. Power is only a small part of that problem.

I don't believe that there is some conspiracy against Nintendo. Nintendo's use of very weak hardware meant games that relied on gfx wow factor for sales wouldn't work--fix the hardware/online stuff and build an attractive product and there is no reason cod, FIFA, GTA, et.al. would not be there. Building a console with 1/6th to 1/10th the power of the competion was the barrier.


But this is ot, and it looks like we'll never know how a traditional Nintendo console would have done.

 

[Rektash]

Nintendo is such a fickle company when it comes to their region locking shenenigans.

It's pretty annoying, really.

 

[AgeEighty]

I don't believe that there is some conspiracy against Nintendo. Nintendo's use of very weak hardware meant games that relied on gfx wow factor for sales wouldn't work--fix the hardware/online stuff and build an attractive product and there is no reason cod, FIFA, GTA, et.al. would not be there. Building a console with 1/6th to 1/10th the power of the competion was the barrier.

But this is ot, and it looks like we'll never know how a traditional Nintendo console would have done.

Yeah, a lot of people talk as if third parties have it out for Nintendo and there's something philosophical about the reasons they don't support their hardware.

Contrary to that though, I think many of them would legitimately love to support Nintendo if it made financial sense for them. I think the most likely reality is that the majority of them honestly evaluate each dev kit for a new Nintendo product, and just shake their heads and say, "Welp... Once again we're not going to be able to cheaply port our games to this, so this is just not going to work for us. Shame."

 

[spekkeh]

Don't ask me to find a source. But in one of the other NX threads a poster mentioned something about wireless streaming tech being important.

Given nintendos approach of innovating with withered tech. Whatever they decided to do could probably be copied by their competitors rather quickly.

Seeing as how everything points at it being a handheld, and Nintendo is the only real player in the handheld domain, I very much doubt that whatever solution they have under wraps that doesn't include the dock being some kind of hologram projecting marvel, would be copied.

 

[Peru]

If all of these rumors prove to be accurate, which is looking increasingly likely, and if there is no other major selling point announced beyond its form factor (this is a big "if", but I'm going with it for now), then I have to say the NX is starting to look like a disappointing product... and I'm not talking about its power.

The point is the games, right? The complaint about the Wii U is the games. The 3DS performed poorly until... the games arrived. You talk about the general public and a reason to buy a product. It IS simply about games. Consolidating development and offering a steady stream - "twice the amount" - of games, while also appealing to existing handheld and console fans - is a major shift that will see less resources going to waste and almost a guaranteed certain success regardless of 3rd parties.

Many of us have been demanding/praying for this kind of product and change for years. It's certainly not about accepting whatever they do, it's about them for the first time in many years making the right choice _before_ the launch of a product, and not pivoting post-underwhelming launch.

 

[batbeg]

Could the dock just be the receiving end of the gamepads wireless technology and an hdmi out, like a reverse Wii U? With the lack of wires and latency free experience that'd be enough for me to regard it as more of a hybrid than a direct wired approach.

 

[AgeEighty]

The point is the games, right? The complaint about the Wii U is the games. The 3DS performed poorly until... the games arrived. You talk about the general public and a reason to buy a product. It IS simply about games. Consolidating development and offering a steady stream - "twice the amount" - of games, while also appealing to existing handheld and console fans - is a major shift that will see less resources going to waste and almost a guaranteed certain success regardless of 3rd parties.

Many of us have been demanding/praying for this kind of product and change for years. It's certainly not about accepting whatever they do, it's about them for the first time in many years making the right choice _before_ the launch of a product, and not pivoting post-underwhelming launch.

Where the general public is concerned, Nintendo has already lost the conversation about games. Mario and Zelda are well liked but they aren't a big enough draw to offset the fact that Nintendo doesn't have stuff like Assassin's Creed, GTA, CoD, or any of the other third party games that get a lot of attention. It's not just about quantity, it's about the fact that they know Nintendo will simply never get a lot of the most popular titles.

It will definitely help for Nintendo to be able to direct all of their development efforts toward one platform, but at the end of the day they're still just one developer with a limited number of studios. That's why, in my opinion, they need their hardware to offer something unique to the consumer to offset the lack of games, something that lets them play in new and interesting ways. I don't know what that would look like (if I did I'd be patenting the idea myself), but I know that what we've seen so far of the NX isn't it.

 

[Oregano]

I don't believe that there is some conspiracy against Nintendo. Nintendo's use of very weak hardware meant games that relied on gfx wow factor for sales wouldn't work--fix the hardware/online stuff and build an attractive product and there is no reason cod, FIFA, GTA, et.al. would not be there. Building a console with 1/6th to 1/10th the power of the competion was the barrier.


But this is ot, and it looks like we'll never know how a traditional Nintendo console would have done.

It's not about that, it's about the fact that the audience buying Nintendo platforms is not necessarily the audience for COD, GTA etc and it would take a lot of effort to cultivate that audience. Nintendo is also unable or unwilling to compete with MS/Sony with co-marketting and stuff which makes it harder for them to get a foot in the door. At this point Nintendo would have to give a substantially better deal than the competitors to make it worthwhile.

It's not about power.

 

[baphomet]

Pretty much confirms that the dock doesn't have any additional computing power. It's just an easy way to hook it up to your main television.

 

[Dystify]

I know it's a bit old now, but I added Emily's new comment on the thickness of the device to the op.

Update: I heard the prototype was around 14mm in thickness. Maybe a tiny bit more than that. Laura Kate Dale heard 25mm from her source. Which is different from what I’ve heard.
Update 2: Second source said thickness of NX prototype is closer to the bottom half of the New Nintendo 3DS XL.

 

[Pancakes R Us]

Sony and Microsoft, as the two console makers whose focus is known to be strictly on power and power alone, have the advantage of not needing to do anything compelling with their hardware. It just needs to be powerful, not too expensive, and have all the latest third party games. The PS4 has sold like gangbusters and it's one of the most uninspired pieces of console hardware ever made, but when you're already on top and have the support of third parties, that really doesn't matter.



I'm glad you like it. I like it too! But I honestly don't see this as "different" enough; that's my point. They took the concept of the Wii U and just combined the console and Gamepad into one unit. It'll be great to have all their games on one system, but honestly I don't know if that's a compelling enough bullet point to move a lot of units to the general public.

Agreed. Nintendo has talked about a new idea...but if it's just what the rumours are saying, then I expect it to sell to the smaller and smaller core Nintendo crowd. However, if it's what the rumours say and they can bust out the next hit game with it, it could do well with the general public. Another Nintendo system with Kart, Smash, NSMB et al yet again though? Good luck with that.

 

[geordiemp]

Agree.

It's looking like Wii U2

Wii.... U2....

Two of the worst fucking things that have ever infested this god forsaken planet.

The grand finale for The Year of Nightmares is yet to come!

Spoiler

and it won't be The Last Guardian. fuck you.

Sort of agree, ALTHOUGH I liked the Wii and some motion control games at the time, things like RE4 on Wii and Excite truck were amazing with wii mote. Galaxy was also cool.

A successor to the Wii would be interesting (my last Nintendo console) and I would be in with some different motion experiences, although the portable aspect I dont give a shit about.

It would be great if Nintendo could make the pointer absolute and light gun games made a return, this time pixel perfect by maybe LED in TV corners...

I like to game on 55 inch TV in party chat online, cant stand smart phone or ipad / small screen gaming.

Also its 2016, anything less than 900p looks like crap to me (IMO). Gut feel is the portable crap will drag down the console but make Japan happy.

 

[TheMagician]

I think that while the screen will be on the thinner side, the controllers might actually be a bit thicker due to them being more ergonomic.

I'd be surprised if they were just a rectangular continuation of the bodies dimensions.

 

[Aostia]

I'm excited about those things, but because I like Nintendo's games I also have a vested interest in their hardware selling well to the general public.

With this product I'm not seeing a very compelling concept that the public will jump at. What's the back-of-the-box sales pitch? "The same games as always, but just more of them" isn't good enough. "The same games at home and in your pocket" has been done before. Not only that, but this thing frankly looks a lot like a Wii U (at least like the Gamepad, which is what many people associate with the Wii U). Won't people look at this and wonder how it's any different than their last hardware?

I'm not saying it doesn't interest me personally; I'm saying I think Nintendo needs to produce a piece of hardware with a high desirability factor for kids and parents, something people can look at and understand why they'd want it without a lot of explanation, and if this is all the NX is (again, not saying it is), I don't think they've succeeded.

Which was the 3ds appealing to Kids and parents factor in your opinion?
this is primary a (apparently) good but not too expensive portable with three additional key points compared to the previous

Multiplayer on the go
TV out put
More unified development environment aka more games (from Nintendo, indie, japanese sw houses, mobile scenario)

If priced correctly it seems to have many appealing factors to the kid and parents audience

 

[Raiden1018]

If all of these rumors prove to be accurate, which is looking increasingly likely, and if there is no other major selling point announced beyond its form factor (this is a big "if", but I'm going with it for now), then I have to say the NX is starting to look like a disappointing product... and I'm not talking about its power.

I felt the same way since the Eurogamer leak

 

[SuperSah]

Looks like the hype may not be justified then, eh? Thank god I have almost zero expectations for this thing.

 

[the androgyne]

I dunno what this i just made is, seems stupid!