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[maxcriden]

I'm late to this thread so I may be well behind, but those are some looooonnng dimensions in the OP. The mockups in the original post dont fit at all.

Pretty awkward. Devkit only? The size of the screen versus the size of the unit means a bunch of useless space on the sides.

Dimensions in the OP were debunked and we now have a thickness dimension only. ☺

 

[Skittzo0413]

So she doesn't want to Super Metal Dave anyone...
that's understandable.
How do these people with inside sources know what they can divulge and can't without serious repercussions to the said source though???
Seems a fine line that I would be paranoid even starting on.

Well one thing is I bet they only want to release information that they can corroborate with someone else, both because this helps the credibility of the info and because it ensures that this information can't be traced back to a single person.

 

[mStudios]

I'd recommend all of you buying Nintendo stocks soon.

 

[CloudyTuba]

Dimensions in the OP were debunked and we now have a thickness dimension only. ☺

Thanks. So the only dimensions stated as fact were wrong, and the dimension stated with uncertainty has been validated?

OP's gotta update that shit. Thread is one day old and 40 pages long.

 

[Starchasing]

Well first of all I don't think it's just old school games. I mean, the majority of sports games would work with the sideways controller setup, right? It's really only games that require a player controlled camera which can't be played that way which, to be fair, isn't exactly the majority of new games today. Certainly a big chunk of them, but there are plenty of games that don't require dual analog.

But second, I don't think the local multiplayer out of the box thing is the primary selling point of the detachable controllers. The detachable controllers make the most sense to me as a way to simulate touch screen input when the screen portion is docked, so that there aren't going to be any games exclusive to either mode. The selling point therefore will be: "here are your controllers, go play your way."

It's a simple message and it honestly sounds like a very comfortable and functional control scheme (dual new wiimote+) assuming they get the ergonomics right. Split controllers are the future man.

How would you simulate touch controllers?

I think the controllers would be totally ergonomic for normal use, and not so ergonomic when used for casual multiplayer.

Just like the wiimote was totally ergonomic but when used as a NES controller was ok ergonomic.

 

[ozfunghi]

OP's gotta update that shit. Thread is one day old and 40 pages long.

yup

 

[Retrobox]

I'd recommend all of you buying Nintendo stocks soon.

You got some insider info ?

 

[Malus]

I'd recommend all of you buying Nintendo stocks soon.

I don't normally take investment advice from gaf but you sound really sure. Fuck it, there goes my life savings.

 

[MuchoMalo]

I'd recommend all of you buying Nintendo stocks soon.

I'm expecting it to plummet after the reveal, though.

 

[Milly Osworth]

I'd recommend all of you buying Nintendo stocks soon.

Why

 

[MCN]

I'm expecting it to plummet after the reveal, though.

Right, we get your point. You don't like Nintendo (or people with developmental difficulties).

 

[georly]

Right, we get your point. You don't like Nintendo (or people with developmental difficulties). Now fuck off out of the thread.

If the NX isn't a mobile game investors aren't gonna be happy.

 

[BuggyMike]

Didn't I read last night that Emily would reveal one more piece of information today?

 

[MuchoMalo]

Right, we get your point. You don't like Nintendo (or people with developmental difficulties). Now fuck off out of the thread.

If the NX isn't a mobile game investors aren't gonna be happy.

At least someone got the joke.

 

[Dystify]

I added the comment from LPVG about the inaccurate dimensions to the op. The 25mm thickness along with the width of around 281 mm and a height of 92 mm seem to be no longer accurate.

The thickness of 14 mm Emily reported seems to be current info.

Didn't I read last night that Emily would reveal one more piece of information today?

Emily said she's talking to a few more people before she posts anything new. No ETA for now.

 

[NoNeed4Mercy]

This is so weird.. I wonder how their reveal schudele is..
I mean they announced the nes mini as a "christmas gift", so if they reveal NX in october that would not mix up good with the nes mini (i know they are different kind of things for us gamers, but i see it from a more mainstream standpoint, like the wii gamers)

If they announce it in january it would be such a short timeframe to promote it for march..
I think it will be delayed and revealed in march ...


I still remember the region free thing when the 3ds came, and it was all wrong. I was so excited as first.. I hope this time they release those borders

 

[Possumowner]

I'd recommend all of you buying Nintendo stocks soon.

I'd love a pair of Nintendo socks...oh stocks you say

 

[Kyzer]

Right, we get your point. You don't like Nintendo (or people with developmental difficulties). Now fuck off out of the thread.

well, stocks typically do go down with new system reveals so...

I'd recommend all of you buying Nintendo stocks soon.

so you can sell ?

 

[J@hranimo]

I'd recommend all of you buying Nintendo stocks soon.

Interestingly enough I'm considering it.

 

[Deleted member 465307]

Didn't I read last night that Emily would reveal one more piece of information today?

She said this:

I want to thank you people who support me. I will share final info/thoughts on NX tomorrow. Then I'm done talking about NX until reveal.

@ArcadeGirl64 This will not be another female link situation. This was a legitimate (and solid) leak. We're way passed the rumor stage here.

@ArcadeGirl64 Don't expect any big new leaks from me tomorrow. Tomorrow's NX post will be something different, but it's worth reading.

@AxiomVerge I will say that the stuff I've been reporting on NX is very close to the final product. I'll talk about that tomorrow.

Sounds like we might hear more about the final product, but it sounds like no brand-new info or anything.

 

[Skittzo0413]

I'd recommend all of you buying Nintendo stocks soon.

I sold all of mine after Pokemon GO sent it flying, not buying any more until it dips under $20 again (NTDOY) which is probably very likely soon after the reveal.

How would you simulate touch controllers?

I think the controllers would be totally ergonomic for normal use, and not so ergonomic when used for casual multiplayer.

Just like the wiimote was totally ergonomic but when used as a NES controller was ok ergonomic.

If the two controllers are similar to wii motion + controllers, then you can simulate touch inputs with the pointer function. It doesn't even need the IR pointing, just gyro and position sensing. You can use one of the two controllers to point to the screen and hit a button to simulate a touch input. It's obviously not perfect but it seems to be the best way (beyond that weird holographic IR sensing-from-the-side-of-the-controller patent).

And I never thought the wiimote sideways was that uncomfortable, and I have fairly big hands. Ideally this will be an improved design though.

 

[EDarkness]

Heh, this thread is so funny.

Just the NX stuff in general.

Went from "This system will be powerful!" to "Somewhere between XBox One and PS4" to "Around Xbox One" to "2x Wii U" in power. It's funny as hell. Reading the reactions to this has been pretty entertaining, and I'll admit that I'll be a little disappointed if it's just 2x a Wii U.

Also, let's not forget the "it's not a hybrid, but two systems" to "it's a hybrid" to "it's just a portable with TV Out".

I have no idea where this system is going to fall, but the rollercoaster ride has been pretty fun. I wouldn't be surprised if the reveal ends up being a downer for a lot of people...myself included. Leave it to Nintendo to take all this hype for a product and dash it on the floor. This thread is equally funny as it is depressing. Heh, heh.

 

[James Scott]

Right, we get your point. You don't like Nintendo (or people with developmental difficulties). Now fuck off out of the thread.

There was an article where analysts and investors were displeased when Nintendo announced they were purchasing JESNET as it made them seem very invested in the console space when they're hoping for them to take on the mobile space harder.
Not sure how stocks will react, honestly

 

[Skittzo0413]

Heh, this thread is so funny.

Just the NX stuff in general.

Went from "This system will be powerful!" to "Somewhere between XBox One and PS4" to "Around Xbox One" to "2x Wii U" in power. It's funny as hell. Reading the reactions to this has been pretty entertaining, and I'll admit that I'll be a little disappointed if it's just 2x a Wii U.

Also, let's not forget the "it's not a hybrid, but two systems" to "it's a hybrid" to "it's just a portable with TV Out".

I have no idea where this system is going to fall, but the rollercoaster ride has been pretty fun. I wouldn't be surprised if the reveal ends up being a downer for a lot of people...myself included. Leave it to Nintendo to take all this hype for a product and dash it on the floor. This thread is equally funny as it is depressing. Heh, heh.

Um... it's been pretty clear that since the Eurogamer leak last month it will be between Wii U and XB1 in raw power, so I don't recall seeing much of that in this thread.

Also 2x Wii U is what Emily says is the lowest possible level, so please people stop saying she thinks that's where it will end up.

Edit:

There was an article where analysts and investors were displeased when Nintendo announced they were purchasing JESNET as it made them seem very invested in the console space when they're hoping for them to take on the mobile space harder.
Not sure how stocks will react, honestly

As someone who has been following Nintendo stock for some years now, there is no way in hell the stock will rise right after the reveal. I am expecting at the very least a 5% drop, potentially more, specifically because the majority of investors have no faith in Nintendo hardware whatsoever. The reveal can be perfect, and the device could sell 200 million units in 5 years but as soon as they show that they are harder at work on hardware than they are on mobile software, investors will throw a fit.

Malo is absolutely correct in assuming it will drop after the reveal, and it has nothing to do with the quality of the hardware or his faith in the company.

 

[orioto]

I sold all of mine after Pokemon GO sent it flying, not buying any more until it dips under $20 again (NTDOY) which is probably very likely soon after the reveal.



If the two controllers are similar to wii motion + controllers, then you can simulate touch inputs with the pointer function. It doesn't even need the IR pointing, just gyro and position sensing. You can use one of the two controllers to point to the screen and hit a button to simulate a touch input. It's obviously not perfect but it seems to be the best way (beyond that weird holographic IR sensing-from-the-side-of-the-controller patent).

Nope, it won't be like that no.. You can't just say "this game you're playing with tactile screen, you can also play it with a pointer on tv" This is not the same feeling, the same ergonomics, the same precision, that would absolutely break the game.

I'm not sure why everyone wants the detachable controller to be a solution to keep the control while the console is plugged. Everyone accepted that the console would have to be out of your hands when playing on tv, while we know they have the tech to stream a vid from the console to the tv...

 

[10k]

I'm sure there will be two devices but for now the concentration is on the handheld hybrid. Maybe holiday 2017 of 2018 will see a 4k box for the enthusiast crowd.

 

[doop_]

I'm sure there will be two devices but for now the concentration is on the handheld hybrid. Maybe holiday 2017 of 2018 will see a 4k box for the enthusiast crowd.

You are not get a 4k console from Nintendo in the foreseeable future. Be realistic.

 

[Vena]

I'd recommend all of you buying Nintendo stocks soon.

Hum...

 

[th3sicknness]

I'm sure there will be two devices but for now the concentration is on the handheld hybrid. Maybe holiday 2017 of 2018 will see a 4k box for the enthusiast crowd.

The issue really comes down to the Wii U and the 3DS market canablizing each other due to the IP's being so similar. Nintendo fully realizes it needs to merge the two on one platform.

For this thing to succeed it needs to be represented as once device. It cant be seen as something that talks to something else otherwise it will be seen as a Wii U 2. Since this thing is going to be under powered compared to its competition I thoroughly believe in the hybrid concept because it is the only way Nintendo is going to be able to make enough first party titles to fuel the install base. With both the IP from the 3ds and the Wii u on the NX platform this thing will have a good train of software... Third parties arent going to come around unless this thing is a massive success imo.

 

[Malus]

Um... it's been pretty clear that since the Eurogamer leak last month it will be between Wii U and XB1 in raw power, so I don't recall seeing much of that in this thread.

He said he was talking in general, not this thread specifically. And I'd agree, it's been kinda funny/sad seeing the power expectations drop and drop.

I'm still really happy to be moving away from 3DS hardware at least, as much as I love the thing.

 

[Skittzo0413]

Nope, it won't be like that no.. You can't just say "this game you're playing with tactile screen, you can also play it with a pointer on tv" This is not the same feeling, the same ergonomics, the same precision, that would absolutely break the game.

I'm not sure why everyone wants the detachable controller to be a solution to keep the control while the console is plugged. Everyone accepted that the console would have to be out of your hands when playing on tv, while we know they have the tech to stream a vid from the console to the tv...

Honestly I do agree with you that streaming to the dock makes more sense, but in that case the detachable controllers truly make no sense to me. I'm just trying to make sense of the info we have here, and it's not all that crazy or unattractive, but you are right that reverse Wii U-ing this would be the best way for it to work, though not necessarily as a hybrid.

If it doesn't stream to the dock, and does have to be connected to it to display on the TV, then the dock will actually affect the hardware in some way. Letting it upclock, having some sort of processing power on its own? Who knows. But it makes no sense otherwise.

 

[Retrobox]

As someone who has been following Nintendo stock for some years now, there is no way in hell the stock will rise right after the reveal. I am expecting at the very least a 5% drop, potentially more, specifically because the majority of investors have no faith in Nintendo hardware whatsoever. The reveal can be perfect, and the device could sell 200 million units in 5 years but as soon as they show that they are harder at work on hardware than they are on mobile software, investors will throw a fit.

Malo is absolutely correct in assuming it will drop after the reveal, and it has nothing to do with the quality of the hardware or his faith in the company.

Ah yes, Nintendo stocks. I still remember when Nintendo stock skyrocketed because of Pokemon Go until investors realised "wait what, you mean Nintendo is barely involved with this game? ABORT MISSION"

Like holy shit, you can't be THIS clueless when your own money is on the line. Simply hilarious.

EDIT: @Vena IT'S A SIGN

 

[Vena]

You know, I've noticed that its gotten an awful lot quieter recently too, the people who generally know stuff and are more public facing have quieted down. Hum...

 

[10k]

You are not get a 4k console from Nintendo in the foreseeable future. Be realistic.

The issue really comes down to the Wii U and the 3DS market canablizing each other due to the IP's being so similar. Nintendo fully realizes it needs to merge the two on one platform.

For this thing to succeed it needs to be represented as once device. It cant be seen as something that talks to something else otherwise it will be seen as a Wii U 2. Since this thing is going to be under powered compared to its competition I thoroughly believe in the hybrid concept because it is the only way Nintendo is going to be able to make enough first party titles to fuel the install base. With both the IP from the 3ds and the Wii u on the NX platform this thing will have a good train of software... Third parties arent going to come around unless this thing is a massive success imo.

Nintendo would shoot themselves in the foot if they only sold one sku for the next half decade. Multiple skus that play the same games put target different audiences and different power levels.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

They said to expect something around the 20th. I'd guess it's thje announcement of an announcement if they choose to reveal on October.

Now yall saying October... lmao smh nobody know anything about NX lol

 

[Hydrus]

Right, we get your point. You don't like Nintendo (or people with developmental difficulties). Now fuck off out of the thread.

I got banned for telling a racist asshole to fuck off. May wanna edit your post and learn to talk a little nicer to people.

 

[th3sicknness]

Honestly I do agree with you that streaming to the dock makes more sense, but in that case the detachable controllers truly make no sense to me. I'm just trying to make sense of the info we have here, and it's not all that crazy or unattractive, but you are right that reverse Wii U-ing this would be the best way for it to work, though not necessarily as a hybrid.

If it doesn't stream to the dock, and does have to be connected to it to display on the TV, then the dock will actually affect the hardware in some way. Letting it upclock, having some sort of processing power on its own? Who knows. But it makes no sense otherwise.

I would expect that on the go like all laptops it will have a battery optimized mode so that when you arent on the dock you get max battery life while gaming on the go. The dock itself could have built in cooling so that when docked it goes into max performance mode and it helps cool the actual NX device.

It is possible that the dock itself has usb ports as well so that you can use the gamecube adapter for smash brothers (just thinking out loud). The dock itself is going to add options exclusive to the home experience.

 

[PadWarrior]

Looking forward to what Emily will say today.

 

[n0razi]

6-7" is such an awkward size for a portable. I can't imagine carrying something the size of this with me on the train, etc...

I really hope they don't kill of the Gameboy/DS line

 

[th3sicknness]

Nintendo would shoot themselves in the foot if they o not sold one sku for the next half decade. Multiple skus that play the same games put target different audiences and different power levels.

Ya that is why I think this will be 1 unit with everything you need. Having a portable device and a dock sold separately just seems like a recipe for disaster. The experience in my eyes if the rumors are true is on the go and at home. Having 1 sku with 1 memory level like 32 gig or 64 gig standard makes it easy to explain. Everything you need is in the box nothing is sold separately unless you want to customize.

Also another rumor is that it is region free which would be awesome because they could just make 1 hardware unit and the only thing different would be the packaging for its selective market.

 

[Skittzo0413]

He said he was talking in general, not this thread specifically. And I'd agree, it's been kinda funny/sad seeing the power expectations drop and drop.

I'm still really happy to be moving away from 3DS hardware at least, as much as I love the thing.

It still seems like he meant over the past month since the original leak, where we've had pretty much the same reasonable expectations since that leak. But yeah it's definitely entertaining watching people who are so convinced it will be one thing, especially on the NX subreddit, come up with so many weird explanations about how the Eurogamer leak is wrong.

You know, I've noticed that its gotten an awful lot quieter recently too, the people who generally know stuff and are more public facing have quieted down. Hum...

It's quiet... too quiet...

Fox, look out!

Nintendo would shoot themselves in the foot if they o not sold one sku for the next half decade. Multiple skus that play the same games put target different audiences and different power levels.

Multiple SKUs would only really make sense if they have comparable power levels. Combining all of their output into one platform makes no sense if some games aren't doable on both, and when the power gap is large enough there's no way you can put the same two experiences on two SKUs.

 

[orioto]

6-7" is such an awkward size for a portable. I can't imagine carrying something the size of this with me on the train, etc...

I really hope they don't kill of the Gameboy/DS line

Space usage on the gamepad is absolutly horrible. Look at how much empty space you have on that thing... And the screen looks like it's super small compared to the rest... I hate it.

 

[KingSnake]

Maybe holiday 2017 of 2018 will see a 4k box for the enthusiast crowd.

To play what? Between 720p and 4k is like developing the same game twice.

 

[DragonKnight]

This Fox guy knows stuff?

 

[BuggyMike]

Emily said she's talking to a few more people before she posts anything new. No ETA for now.

She said this:



Sounds like we might hear more about the final product, but it sounds like no brand-new info or anything.

Preciate the info.

 

[pooh]

I'm sure there will be two devices but for now the concentration is on the handheld hybrid. Maybe holiday 2017 of 2018 will see a 4k box for the enthusiast crowd.

By two devices, do you mean a separate portable and home console, or an SCD for the tablet/portable?

 

[Enduin]

Space usage on the gamepad is absolutly horrible. Look at how much empty space you have on that thing... And the screen looks like it's super small compared to the rest... I hate it.

The problem is that if you cut out a lot of the empty space you'll end up with a very uncomfortable device to hold because you simply won't have enough real estate for you hands

 

[casey_contra]

I'm hoping for a pic from Emily... But I doubt that.

I still want to hear about where the NFC reader is and if there are shoulder buttons on the smaller controllers.

 

[Oregano]

To play what? Between 720p and 4k is like developing the same game twice.

It's literally only plausible if it just renders the game at higher resolution. 2D assets would looked funked though.

 

[Calm Mind]

You know, I've noticed that its gotten an awful lot quieter recently too, the people who generally know stuff and are more public facing have quieted down. Hum...

Maybe their lies have caught up to them.