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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock
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I laughed way too hard.
With your post in the other thread as well I feel my hype for an NX reveal is in check.
Dark Cloud
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Why would she need to talk to people before she writes her final thoughts?
Is she afraid she might say the wrong things? Lol
Tbf 10k is talking about 4-5 devices in 4 years! That's absurd to think Nintendo would do that. One more device prior to 2020 makes a lot of sense.
I highly highly doubt Nintendo is only going to make hybrid systems if NX is a hybrid.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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The person she is talking to is Reggie.
Lord_Byron28
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I could see Nintendo launching a $200 high-powered handheld (2x Wii U's power) with a TV out function and have them advertise it as a hybrid. I could see them release in Holiday 2017 a console for $250 that can wirelessly connect to up to two NX screens at a time as well as allow for 1080p, 60 FPS, more general performance stability, cloud streaming, more memory, ability to sync up to 4-5 different NX Handheld accounts to the system, etc.
Although when people are throwing around 2x Wii U power its still unclear what it will mean for how the games will look. Wii U had a lot of extra processing power to deal with the streaming to the gamepad thing.
Although when people are throwing around 2x Wii U power its still unclear what it will mean for how the games will look. Wii U had a lot of extra processing power to deal with the streaming to the gamepad thing.
Dark Cloud
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So, looks like we'll have to wait another week before NX news from Nintendo lol. Good thing is they've announced and said what they needed for the 3DS for the rest of this year. Now it's NX time no matter what. Atleast, if they do it later next week it will be after Sonys meeting.
And please don't post that one SpongeBob picture...
Also, I forgot what Nico said, but he said the reveal of the NX was around September 20th.
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=215172600&postcount=1623
John Harker mentioned a while back that he thinks Nintendo wouldn't make the TGS time frame and this is after TGS. I'm definitely believing this and of course fall starts that timeframe. If they announce it next week, then that gives them 2 weeks for the news to spread which is plenty of time in this day and age. I wouldn't mind the shorter wait time so I don't lose my mind!
That direct would be the shortest direct ever. Lol
And please don't post that one SpongeBob picture...
Also, I forgot what Nico said, but he said the reveal of the NX was around September 20th.
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=215172600&postcount=1623
John Harker mentioned a while back that he thinks Nintendo wouldn't make the TGS time frame and this is after TGS. I'm definitely believing this and of course fall starts that timeframe. If they announce it next week, then that gives them 2 weeks for the news to spread which is plenty of time in this day and age. I wouldn't mind the shorter wait time so I don't lose my mind!
That direct would be the shortest direct ever. Lol
James Scott
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I'm happy with the NX as is, especially as the base unit, but releasing new variants every other year like iPhone sounds like a good idea.
I imagine this is using the OS Nintendo created for this same purpose, updating every once in awhile is good for keeping the system alive and sales high. Imagine in 2-3 years a 1080p NX update or maybe a 4K console (playing the games from the base unit)
So, looks like we'll have to wait another week before NX news from Nintendo lol. Good thing is they've announced and said what they needed for the 3DS for the rest of this year. Now it's NX time no matter what. Atleast, if they do it later next week it will be after Sonys meeting.
And please don't post that one SpongeBob picture...
Coming next month.... A Wii-U Direct.
Panic mode would be unreal here
I'm on the team that leans towards multiple SKUs under the same tech/OS/game library. I'm not expecting x86 or 4k or all that pipedream mess, but two different units just seems like the much safer and more sensible option.
That said, I want to believe a hybrid could happen, and if any of these sources could truly be believed then I suppose it's happening, but..
It still just sounds like a confused mess after all has been said. In an attempt to reach every audience possible (again) and give access to every playstyle they can muster, the NX that rumors speak of just doesn't seem to give a good layman's idea as to what it's main goal is, and whatever people can come to just seems to confuse or upset even further.
All that plus Iwata's statements about NX as a platform and how they weren't planning a hybrid just leaves me all kinds of skeptical now.
It could very well all be legit, and maybe seeing Nintendo's official take on it would convince me back on board, but I dunno if its worth counting our chickens just yet.
That said, I want to believe a hybrid could happen, and if any of these sources could truly be believed then I suppose it's happening, but..
It still just sounds like a confused mess after all has been said. In an attempt to reach every audience possible (again) and give access to every playstyle they can muster, the NX that rumors speak of just doesn't seem to give a good layman's idea as to what it's main goal is, and whatever people can come to just seems to confuse or upset even further.
All that plus Iwata's statements about NX as a platform and how they weren't planning a hybrid just leaves me all kinds of skeptical now.
It could very well all be legit, and maybe seeing Nintendo's official take on it would convince me back on board, but I dunno if its worth counting our chickens just yet.
Dark Cloud
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That probably comes down to Nintendo? Whatever multiplat games they may have will Nintendo let them throw the "NX" logo on there?
I would hope so by now, but knowing Nintendo I would say no and they want to save atleast certain third party games for the reveal.
Shhhh.
Speculation based on Iwata's comments about future devices being like "brothers" in a family and their merging of divisions wasn't to consolidate the hardware of handheld and console into one device.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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Emily Rogers :, NX will feature a power button and have Nintendo exclusive games
RavageDark
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I also heard that it's going to have the Nintendo logo shown during the start up.
Refreshment.01
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Maybe you are not thinking this through?
Inverting the entire controller 180 degrees to change the thumbstick aligment means that what ever trigger or shoulder index operated button in the detachable half won't be usable in the opposite orientation.
Your latest answer comes with another set of limitations, among them, that the detachable controllers wouldn't have shoulder or triggers if we put those on the main part of NX that has the screen if they are ment to be rotated like you suggest.
More over, one could have shoulder buttons on the screen part and complement them with triggers in the detachable parts. This would alctually be ideal because it allows for extra functionality even in the chance that the NX could be used in a touch screen mode only. Having physical shoulder button would complement perfectly virtual on screen buttons.
However, assuming the source is correct an the device is 14 mm thick, this could imply that the index operated input in the detachable parts might end up been a shoulder button due to size limitations.
That's why i made the comment about using overlays with image sensors in the detachable parts as it would allow to do the 180 rotating thing to customize the thumbstick aligments you are suggesting.
Is not that hard to grasp actually.
For what i can see, the mess comes when people expect to play 2 player, NES style, and from the expectations surrounding the dock.
If you throw away the NES 2 player part and put a Wifi receiver in the dock, everything becomes simple. A device that acomodates every input style through out Nintendo generations and both works as a portable and home device.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=182309465&postcount=4608
Looking back at what I thought back in 2015 I'm actually pretty disappointed as a Wii U owner.
Do people think NX games would also be released on the Wii U ?
If successful, I don't see why not honestly.
Dark Cloud
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Maybe. I don't think this hybrid is their only NX. I still believe what Iwata said about multiple devices across one OS like Apple.
I've never thought anything made on NX would work on Wii U. It's not Nintendos job to appease the 12 million Wii U owners because it failed. There's no point in wasting money on that system. Everybody bought a Wii U at their own risk and it flopped. Stuff like that happens. I don't think Nintendo has to do anything extra for Wii U fans just because it flopped.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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Very likely
With a 6.2" screen this is never going to be a pocket system, why anyone would still hold out for that after this info is beyond me. Even with a 5" screen it would be a stretch to say it would fit in your pocket, maybe a back pocket at best like the 3DS XL, but I would doubt even that.
And while I love my 3DS XL but it is anything but ergonomic. It's not a nightmare to hold, but after an hour, or two at most, hand cramps are super easy to get and constant shifting of your hands is a necessity to stay comfortable. You need a hefty, molded form that your hand can wrap around like a conventional controller, or the Wii U Gamepad does, to stay comfortable. Which is substantially larger than the 3DS XL.
Fair enough, but that isn't going to save up on much space. Top and bottom bezel could definitely get slimmed down a great deal, but you're talking about ~5mm on the left and right sides at best. Even then you need at least a few mm in between the buttons and screen so you don't cross over a lot. Which is especially true for a touch screen resulting in incorrect inputs.
If it's going to be big they need to just go with it, do what they can to trim it down, but make sure it is comfortable over that. Cutting corners to try and make it as small as possibly while sacrificing ergonomics and comfort isn't going to help sell it. I would have preferred a 5" screen and Vita sized device, but that just not possible with a 6.2" screen and detachable controllers.
I personally hope they ship, or offer at release a really nice, magnetic cover that you can use to help protect the screen and majority of the face of the system. That would be a nice elegant way to alleviate any fear of carrying this around or putting it in your backpack or bag without relying on a traditionally giant handheld pouch that have been use for past systems.
LegendofLex
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One of Nintendo's core design philosophies for the expanded market is to cut as many buttons as possible out of the picture.
Even if you start with the idea that you could operate the tablet without the controllers, adding two more buttons to the tablet means there's two more buttons to think about on a system that already has at least 14-16 buttons.
It's also worth pointing out that the statement about the "family of systems" was made in 2013, shortly after the announcement that they were merging their hardware divisions, at which point it's not even clear they were actually working on anything that'd be productized.
NX wasn't mentioned until early 2015, and the "family of systems" comments were nowhere to be seen. Instead, Iwata talked about a "brand new concept" that would satisfy lots of people by "considering different play environments" (between Japan and overseas)... in response to a question asking about the "current notion of thinking about home consoles and handhelds."
You do the math.
At this point we have several credible sources including WSJ so I think it's relatively safe to buy in to the broad strokes of these rumors. As to Iwata-san's statements about a hybrid, I don't have a link handy but I think there as at least one thread detailing his statements and pointing out how he never ruled out a hybrid.
Honestly, no insider would have that info unless they were Nintendo engineers. There is no reason any developer would need to know about another device down the road. Hell, Nintendo has confirmed multiple devices. They recently said they were working on a VR device to investors as well. Whether Nintendo wants to release a device along side the NX handheld, we won't know. Did Matt know about 3DS XL or n3ds holiday 2010? Of course not. Nintendo has made these statements, I really don't think Iwata lied to us about what they were doing.
What did you post before the stealth edit?
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Sorry, that doesn't make much sense now that I re-read it. What I meant with that was that I'd prefer that all future titles for the NX to be ported to the Wii U and once they release the dock/console, I'd probably buy the device.
I cannot say that they handled the situation well. Least they could have done is announce more DLC for MK8/Splatoon/SSB for this winter. To me the silence on the Wii U this holiday and beyond Zelda is a slap in the face.
LegendofLex
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If they don't include the dock in the box with NX from the minute it launches, the product has already failed.
Dark Cloud
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If what they're going for is you can take it on the go or play at home, then it has to come with the dock for plug in.
PadWarrior
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Was this confirmed?
So, uhh.
The hybrid is apparently the handheld, and it doesn't share a library with the eventual console? And they're somehow backwards compatible with Wii U and 3DS?
I don't know if I'm reading this right, but if I am then this makes even less sense than it did before. A lot less.
The hybrid is apparently the handheld, and it doesn't share a library with the eventual console? And they're somehow backwards compatible with Wii U and 3DS?
I don't know if I'm reading this right, but if I am then this makes even less sense than it did before. A lot less.
Where are you reading this? Don't think that's right.
Refreshment.01
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Which isn't a problem.
For the expanded audience having two extra inputs that rest below their index fingers apart from the self explanatory virtual buttons and icons wouldn't be a problem. Yet the addition would add extra functionality to the touch screen only mode even for more seasoned players.
More over, having ABXY is confusing to the audience you talk about and it's rather unintuitive yet Nintendo still keeps that layout. Or how redundant +/- combo became.
And besides you took the reply out of context. i was making an analysis about what some other user suggested about the shoulder button placement inregards to adjusting thumbstick positioning.
LegendofLex
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Aside from the bolded part, none of what you said is right.
There is no "eventual console" that exists at this point to compare libraries with.
There is no backward compatibility with anything, except maybe Virtual Console titles.
Hm? Where are you getting this? There's no console at this point and potentially none to come. The hybrid is a handheld with a dock that connects it to the TV, ostensibly making it a console, and significantly more powerful than Wii U, at that. There's no BC. Just VC probably.
Okay, my reading comprehension was borked because I thought you were posting Emily's comments. Sorry.
I think Azoo is similarly confused.
Nintendo claims they will support Wii U (and 3DS) beyond NX release but apart from BOTW I very much doubt any NX games will also be on Wii U.
OrbitalBeard
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Yup, I also thought the thing in quotes was Emily's statement we've been waiting on.
Sorry for misunderstanding, I'm looking at the topic on-off while at work. lol
No prob at all, just wanted to make sure you were properly in the loop!
Dark Cloud
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Lol this has me cracking up. I was so confused. I thought maybe you were responding to the one guy I responded to or maybe you were in your own world lol
metalslimer
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I imagine Nintendo will quickly kill Wii U production soon after NX lauches. It'll be interesting ot see what they do with the 3DS though.
OrbitalBeard
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Wouldn't be surprised if Wii U production has already been killed.
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