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[Plinko]

Could be the case that the mic and camera are built-in the dock? She make the impression that they will be somewhere else.

Did she?

Because, if so, that could go along with that TV attachment patent a while back. It attached to the top of the TV and made the TV screen turn into a 3D screen. That would make a ton of sense, actually.

The dock makes no sense to me, but that TV attachment thing does.

 

[TheAngryMonkey]

What exactly constitutes "not great battery life"?

Anything less than Wii U gamepad or OG 3DS will be trash tier for me. The Wii U gamepad especially bothers me because it's easier for me to spend a few hours playing something on that or using it after my kids have.

 

[doop_]

Could be the case that the mic and camera are built-in the dock? She make the impression that they will be somewhere else.

What would be the point of a camera in the dock. I think the Camera and Mic will be put in the "pro controller" of the NX and new detachable controllers.

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

Could be the case that the mic and camera are built-in the dock? She make the impression that they will be somewhere else.

I get the impression they'll be separate attachments.

 

[Dark Cloud]

What if there are bundles?

The cheap bundle comes with the NX and dock.

A more expensive bundle that comes with headsets and a free year of Nintendos subscription service that has voice chat and extra features. Maybe it'll come with a standard pro controller of sorts too.

You could NX chat only using NX screen, like Wii U chat.

I was thinking the dock could be like a Kinect with the camera and microphone

 

[sinxtanx]

Also the aluminium backs are like gigantic heat-sinks.

that reminds me of the time I was debugging some stuff on a Mac Mini and placed a bunch of empty soda cans on it to increase cooling....worked surprisingly well

 

[TunaLover]

What would be the point of a camera in the dock.

You could NX chat only using NX screen, like Wii U chat with gamepad docked.

 

[th3sicknness]

How many games do you really need to take with you?

Well I would assume most of US would be downloading titles to the internal memory and would like to have all our games with us at all times? It just doesnt seem practical to really have a land locked harddrive at home to store saves and games and whatever else kind of content.

If this thing is really all about being able to game anywhere I would assume they want it less complicated than having the content spread out over several devices. Flash cards are getting massive now and arent that much more expensive. The average first party Wii U game was less than 10 gigs so 128 to 256 gig flash cards would be more than plenty.

I also think anything less than 64 gigs of internal memory is a mistake.

 

[Skittzo0413]

I'm curious about that next-gen rumble, I wonder what it is and how will they use it. The feedback on the vive controllers is very nice, so I could see it being useful when using the detached controllers in combination with motion controls.

The previous LPVG article (I believe) mentioned that the advanced haptics would be used to better simulate different types of feedback, like swinging a sword into a wall versus swinging a sword through a marshmallow. At least that's the impression I got. It would be very cool if implemented well.


I really don't see how they could possibly save much by removing a camera and microphone... Aren't those components like less than $1 on a BoM? I suppose they take up room on the device, so Nintendo could want to make this thinner and sleeker thus removing those components, but it just seems like they're far to useful for non-gaming applications to give up.

Also the majority of Nintendo's recent patents focused on some sort of visual or IR sensing using various cameras, so I honestly would be shocked if the device ships without any sort of camera. Maybe that's something they're keeping secret from developers until the reveal?

 

[Taker666]

If this thing is a hybrid I seriously doubt the usb rumors are true. Any kind of harddrive that is plugged to the dock or at home is contrary to the ability to play any title anywhere. Nintendo could just opt for the use of high capacity SD cards only. This would give it the ability to take large amounts of data anywhere without having a drive land locked and not being able to be used when you leave the home.

I am assuming the usb ports could be for the gamecube adapter for smash or some other peripherals.

Well it would act as an extra fridge for the home console aspect.....and it would be quicker to transfer from the HDD to the NX handhelds storage than it would be to redownload a title again. I'd rather have access to a HDD for home use than not.

Might as well let you have both.

 

[OBias]

That wouldn't mesh with the idea/patent of the controllers being plastic, IR based, shells - but since the reported ones support advanced motion feedback and the like, does the 'shell' concept still hold?

The shell concept seems to be just a patent at this point.

 

[Branduil]

Emily's article mentions an analog stick, not a circle pad, so I'm not even sure why people are freaking out about no clickable sticks?

 

[TunaLover]

I really don't see how they could possibly save much by removing a camera and microphone... Aren't those components like less than $1 on a BoM? I suppose they take up room on the device, so Nintendo could want to make this thinner and sleeker thus removing those components, but it just seems like they're far to useful for non-gaming applications to give up.

Also the majority of Nintendo's recent patents focused on some sort of visual or IR sensing using various cameras, so I honestly would be shocked if the device ships without any sort of camera. Maybe that's something they're keeping secret from developers until the reveal?

The room for the camera and mic would be negligible really, no more than 1cm²

 

[Dark Cloud]

Emily's article mentions an analog stick, not a circle pad, so I'm not even sure why people are freaking out about no clickable sticks?

Somehow I missed that lol. I never thought it was going to have circle pads. Why would you play BotW with those crappy circle pads?

 

[Skittzo0413]

Emily's article mentions an analog stick, not a circle pad, so I'm not even sure why people are freaking out about no clickable sticks?

Laura (the author of the LPVG article this thread is about) said she heard that the devkit currently uses circle pads. I don't know if Emily has clarified whether or not she's heard of analog sticks as opposed to circle pads, but it could be a miscommunication (i.e. she just saw a diagram of a circle, assumed it was an analog stick).

Either way I'm sure they will be clickable and I'm sure if they're circle pads they'll be an improved version over the 3DS version.

The room for the camera and mic would be negligible really, no more than 1cm²

All the more reason that it's so strange that they might not be included...

 

[tr1p1ex]

If this thing is a hybrid I seriously doubt the usb rumors are true. Any kind of harddrive that is plugged to the dock or at home is contrary to the ability to play any title anywhere. Nintendo could just opt for the use of high capacity SD cards only. This would give it the ability to take large amounts of data anywhere without having a drive land locked and not being able to be used when you leave the home.

I am assuming the usb ports could be for the gamecube adapter for smash or some other peripherals.

Don't forget USB ethernet adapter. I think USB ports are a given. They have lots of uses.

 

[MuchoMalo]

So only 2 USB ports available, since HDD will take 2. A port for HDD, another for whatever accesory.

I doubt that they'll pull the Y cable BS again, especially with USB 3.0 available.

 

[Enduin]

Surprise a 6.2" screen at 720p has shit battery life. Don't care too much that there isn't a camera or mic built in. USB 3.0 is great if that means we can hook up an HDD for storage, that will make transfer speeds much faster.

 

[Neoxon]

In this case I was thinking that it wouldn't use any of the UBS ports - rather when you detached the controllers it would leave two open ports where the controllers connected. Then the dock would have connectors that would fit inside of those ports. That would require that the controller ports/connectors are able to transfer data.

That wouldn't mesh with the idea/patent of the controllers being plastic, IR based, shells - but since the reported ones support advanced motion feedback and the like, does the 'shell' concept still hold?

I think you're thinking about this the wrong way. How it would likely work is that the NX would have a proprietary port on the bottom (or the top) of the device, & the dock itself is the one with the USB ports. From there you can plug in whatever arcade sticks, fight pads, GameCube Adapters, Ethernet adapters, or external hard drives that you want.

 

[Dystify]

3-4 hours of battery life is more than enough for me. I always carry some form of charging possibility around with me anyway or just play at home. Since smartphones introduced short battery times to me things like kinda became normal.

 

[Trago]

There's a chance the battery life isn't good!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Vena]

So, unclickable circle pads, no triggers, and shit battery life? This is sounding less like a good idea and more like living proof that the hybrid idea doesn't work. Powerful but mediocre and likely expensive handheld, and terrible, overpriced home console. This just seems like a bad idea all around.

Don't worry the sun came up this morning.

But let me assure you the moon will also be back at night.

 

[tr1p1ex]

No camera and mic ...I imagine if those aren't included then it is because they are on smartphones.

 

[th3sicknness]

Don't forget USB ethernet adapter. I think USB ports are a given. They have lots of uses.

True totally forgot about that even though I use one on my WII U lol... Wonder how much it would cost to have one on the dock (assuming the dock rumor is real).

 

[what-ok]

Not sure why nintendo thinks we all want a portable. Maybe the numbers say that the 3DS sold well, but its because the WiiU failed by comparison.
I own a 3DS and haven't played it in 2 years due to content. That being said, my wife loves it for playing Animal Crossing, but she would never play it outside the home. I guess it boils down to the fact that I am getting too old. The portable thing is for the kids.

 

[MuchoMalo]

There's a chance the battery life isn't good!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I warned you guys that something would have to give for it to be thin. It's possible that the kits are still using a fan because the X1 is still in them though, but it's getting pretty late for that. It's also possible that Pascal isn't being used after all.

 

[blu]

I wonder is Nintendo would be crazy enough to release a portable with a fan. Dev kits should really have the final components by now, so either Nintendo is going all-out, there really is a docked mode, or a chip based on the X1 is what we're getting. NateDrake still stands by Pascal, though?

Not necessarily.

So, unclickable circle pads, no triggers, and shit battery life? This is sounding less like a good idea and more like living proof that the hybrid idea doesn't work. Powerful but mediocre and likely expensive handheld, and terrible, overpriced home console. This just seems like a bad idea all around.

Did something happen today?

 

[th3sicknness]

Not sure why nintendo thinks we all want a portable. Maybe the numbers say that the 3DS sold well, but its because the WiiU failed by comparison.
I own a 3DS and haven't played it in 2 years due to content. That being said, my wife loves it for playing Animal Crossing, but she would never play it outside the home. I guess it boils down to the fact that I am getting too old. The portable thing is for the kids.

You would play a portable if the graphics were better. What if the 3ds gave you the ability to play Mario Kart 8 or Bayonetta or Splatoon with the graphics of a Wii U anywhere?

 

[MCN]

Not sure why nintendo thinks we all want a portable.

Because month-by-month, the 3DS is outselling everything except the PS4. The handheld market has always been very lucrative for Nintendo, whether you like playing handhelds or not. You are not representative of the wider gaming community.

 

[Trago]

I warned you guys that something would have to give for it to be thin. It's possible that the kits are still using a fan because the X1 is still in them though, but it's getting pretty late for that. It's also possible that Pascal isn't being used after all.

The only reason I wanted Pascal was for the chance of better power efficiency. This thing needs a decent battery. Nintendo please don't fuck this up.

 

[MCN]

Did something happen today?

Muchomalo just going for the gold medal in conclusion-jumping again.

 

[Cow Mengde]

That battery life comment is very disheartening. Why even make it portable if you can't take it anywhere without it dying on you?

 

[what-ok]

You would play a portable if the graphics were better. What if the 3ds gave you the ability to play Mario Kart 8 or Bayonetta or Splatoon with the graphics of a Wii U anywhere?

If the graphics were better that would be a plus, but I feel that portability isn't a selling point for me since I would not play it outside the home. I guess that's all I am saying and with talk about it being a home console and portable has yet to be confirmed.

 

[Plinko]

I warned you guys that something would have to give for it to be thin. It's possible that the kits are still using a fan because the X1 is still in them though, but it's getting pretty late for that. It's also possible that Pascal isn't being used after all.

This is false.

 

[Anth0ny]

So, unclickable circle pads, no triggers, and shit battery life? This is sounding less like a good idea and more like living proof that the hybrid idea doesn't work. Powerful but mediocre and likely expensive handheld, and terrible, overpriced home console. This just seems like a bad idea all around.

yes to us, but for the market nintendo is trying to sell to they probably figure the portability of circle pads is worth sacrificing the additional two inputs of clickable sticks and protruding analog sticks. same with triggers, which would make the thing really thick, I guess.

shit battery life seems to be the norm these days with most devices. the consumer seems to be willing to sacrifice battery life if it means the device itself will be cheaper/thinner. ugh.

lack of clickable sticks or triggers kills relevant third party support dead, though. as if that wasn't already assumed lol

 

[tr1p1ex]

Not sure why nintendo thinks we all want a portable.

They don't. That's why it also plugs into the tv.

 

[Dark Cloud]

That battery life comment is very disheartening. Why even make it portable if you can't take it anywhere without it dying on you?

We don't know the final product. Wait until we see what Nintendo comes up with for battery

 

[blu]

Muchomalo just going for the gold medal in conclusion-jumping again.

Ok, just checking. Carry on.

 

[Anth0ny]

come on guys. THINK.

THE OFFICIAL NINTENDO NX PORTABLE POWER PACK

ADD ANOTHER 5 HOURS OF GAMING TIME TO YOUR NX WHILE YOU'RE ON THE GO

ONLY $69.99

COMES IN BLUE, PINK, AND ZELDA GOLD

 

[Dark Cloud]

If you're a console only Nintendo fan- what are you missing from this hybrid exactly? I'm just wondering what you're main complaints are with this not being a true home console.

 

[what-ok]

They don't. That's why it also plugs into the tv.

We are forgetting this this is all speculation. I have heard the same stuff a bunch of times but just pointing out that none of it has been confirmed. I do hope it has functionality to work on the TV like a console, but not getting my hopes up I guess.

 

[KingBroly]

Did she?

Because, if so, that could go along with that TV attachment patent a while back. It attached to the top of the TV and made the TV screen turn into a 3D screen. That would make a ton of sense, actually.

The dock makes no sense to me, but that TV attachment thing does.

You gotta stabilize it somewhere when connected to a TV

 

[Draxal]

Not sure why nintendo thinks we all want a portable. Maybe the numbers say that the 3DS sold well, but its because the WiiU failed by comparison.
I own a 3DS and haven't played it in 2 years due to content. That being said, my wife loves it for playing Animal Crossing, but she would never play it outside the home. I guess it boils down to the fact that I am getting too old. The portable thing is for the kids.

1. Japan is their home market, Japan is dominated by portables and mobile.
2. Console market is saturated, portable market isn't. 3DS was a (mild) success, Wii U was a disaster.

 

[Plinko]

You gotta stabilize it somewhere when connected to a TV

No, I mean including the camera/Mic on the dock makes no sense to me. The dock will be a dock. If they had the TV attachment, the mic and camera could easily be included on that, like a PS4 camera.

 

[casey_contra]

come on guys. THINK.

THE OFFICIAL NINTENDO NX PORTABLE POWER PACK

ADD ANOTHER 5 HOURS OF GAMING TIME TO YOUR NX WHILE YOU'RE ON THE GO

ONLY $69.99

COMES IN BLUE, PINK, AND ZELDA GOLD

But like... I'd be so into this.

Edit: I just reallllly hope it uses Micro USB.

 

[th3sicknness]

If the graphics were better that would be a plus, but I feel that portability isn't a selling point for me since I would not play it outside the home. I guess that's all I am saying and with talk about it being a home console and portable has yet to be confirmed.

I think of it this way.. Even if you dont take this thing off the dock it isnt going to hurt you. If anything the option to place elsewhere may change your habits

This is all assuming the graphics are better than the Wii U..

 

[Neoxon]

But like... I'd be so into this.

Edit: I just reallllly hope it uses Micro USB.

Or USB Type-C, but that's me being a bit too optimistic (knowing how Nintendo usually operates).

 

[NateDrake]

I wonder is Nintendo would be crazy enough to release a portable with a fan. Dev kits should really have the final components by now, so either Nintendo is going all-out, there really is a docked mode, or a chip based on the X1 is what we're getting. NateDrake still stands by Pascal, though?

Absolutely. As confident as ever Pascal is being used.

 

[Dystify]

I like the idea of this mock-up with the shoulder buttons on top and bottom. The plastic and toy-ish look is not my thing though.

(Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/50ta34/thought_you_guys_might_like_a_little_concept/)

 

[Bring back the classics]

I really believe that the *gimmick/innovation is advanced AR! The Nx would have to have camera and mic for this. If not then Nx may seem a bit of a disappoint me.

Although still getting first party games on the move is everything.