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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock

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We don't know the final product. Wait until we see what Nintendo comes up with for battery

Currently, the most powerful pure handheld android based machine uses a 10,000mAH battery and it only lasts about 5-6 hours I believe.

Nintendo better be getting a crazy efficient chip or a crazy big battery for the NX for the battery to last.

Battery is my number 1 concern, not raw power, or GPU, or any other stuff.
 

Branduil

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yes to us, but for the market nintendo is trying to sell to they probably figure the portability of circle pads is worth sacrificing the additional two inputs of clickable sticks and protruding analog sticks. same with triggers, which would make the thing really thick, I guess.

shit battery life seems to be the norm these days with most devices. the consumer seems to be willing to sacrifice battery life if it means the device itself will be cheaper/thinner. ugh.

lack of clickable sticks or triggers kills relevant third party support dead, though. as if that wasn't already assumed lol

1. There is absolutely no evidence or reason to think there won't be clickable sticks and triggers.

2. The N3DS already has 4 shoulder buttons.

3. BotW has to be playable on the system and it requires every input on the Wii U pad, making that the bare minimum for inputs.
 

what-ok

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I think of it this way.. Even if you dont take this thing off the dock it isnt going to hurt you. If anything the option to place elsewhere may change your habits

This is all assuming the graphics are better than the Wii U..

True. Imagine if it did hurt me though? Maybe that's the new gimmick that they don't want others to steal.
Anyway, we will have to just wait patiently and see. I bet they come up with something that we don't expect.
 
Absolutely. As confident as ever Pascal is being used.

That's good to hear, and a quite logical conclusion based on hearing about actively cooled and poor battery time devkits. They likely have not shipped the final hardware in the devkits yet.

True. Imagine if it did hurt me though? Maybe that's the new gimmick that they don't want others to steal.
Anyway, we will have to just wait patiently and see. I bet they come up with something that we don't expect.

NX is the Nintendo Ninjas confirmed?

But yes I agree with your overall point, there's no way this is the full picture.
 

Hoo-doo

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1. There is absolutely no evidence or reason to think there won't be clickable sticks and triggers.

2. The N3DS already has 4 shoulder buttons.

3. BotW has to be playable on the system and it requires every input on the Wii U pad, making that the bare minimum for inputs.

Is there any reason why BotW couldn't have a few on-screen buttons for less frequently used tasks? I don't see why it absolutely has to have every same button the Wii-U has, unless they explicitly stated as such.
 

Anth0ny

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1. There is absolutely no evidence or reason to think there won't be clickable sticks and triggers.

2. The N3DS already has 4 shoulder buttons.

3. BotW has to be playable on the system and it requires every input on the Wii U pad, making that the bare minimum for inputs.

eh, not necessarily. wii and gamecube had very different input methods, didn't stop twilight princess from being released on both platforms. each version had certain differences based on the control method, so I expect the NX version to have some things the Wii U version doesn't, and also perhaps lack some features of the Wii U version.

for a portable I'm definitely leaning towards no clickable sticks or triggers. there will probably be a ZL and ZR button ala n3ds, though.
 

tr1p1ex

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We are forgetting this this is all speculation. I have heard the same stuff a bunch of times but just pointing out that none of it has been confirmed. I do hope it has functionality to work on the TV like a console, but not getting my hopes up I guess.

Of course these are all rumors and of course it works on the tv.
 

phanphare

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I like the idea of this mock-up with the shoulder buttons on top and bottom. The plastic and toy-ish look is not my thing though.

(Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/50ta34/thought_you_guys_might_like_a_little_concept/)

love that idea, though the d pad needs some work

being able to switch which way the controller goes depending on what game you're playing would be awesome. putting the dpad on top for 2D games and switching up the right stick/face buttons for different games is a great idea.
 

MuchoMalo

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Is there any reason why BotW couldn't have a few on-screen buttons for less frequently used tasks? I don't see why it absolutely has to have every same button the Wii-U has, unless they explicitly stated as such.

eh, not necessarily. wii and gamecube had very different input methods, didn't stop twilight princess from being released on both platforms. each version had certain differences based on the control method, so I expect the NX version to have some things the Wii U version doesn't, and also perhaps lack some features of the Wii U version.

for a portable I'm definitely leaning towards no clickable sticks or triggers. there will probably be a ZL and ZR button ala n3ds, though.

This may be ironic coming from me, but if the NX connects to the TV via either a dock or a cable, requiring touch controls wouldn't be possible, would it?

I like the idea of this mock-up with the shoulder buttons on top and bottom. The plastic and toy-ish look is not my thing though.

(Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/50ta34/thought_you_guys_might_like_a_little_concept/)

Not a fan at all...
 
I hope that we can use the WiiU pro controller for some games while the system is docked. I love the formfactor and battery life of that thing.
 

E-phonk

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Hm, okay. I can't imagine final kits not being out by the end of October since mass production of retail units has to start around November.
Pascal chips not being in production atm might be the reason why devs don't have the final devkits yet (and why they delayed to Q1 2017). As long as the major change is battery related or a slight speed increase, that shouldn't be a problem persé.

Edit: apparently, going by the eurogamer article about the development for Wii U, they only got the devkit upgrade Mii/miiverse/friends and network features in an update right before launch. I know that's only software, but it's a huge part of a modern console that was still missing.
 
This may be ironic coming from me, but if the NX connects to the TV via either a dock or a cable, requiring touch controls wouldn't be possible, would it?

I predict this is why people are stating that the two controllers detach and a 3rd part is used as a middle part. Since there's only one screen that middle part may work as a bigger Ps4 touchpad.
 
True. Imagine if it did hurt me though? Maybe that's the new gimmick that they don't want others to steal.
Anyway, we will have to just wait patiently and see. I bet they come up with something that we don't expect.

True knowing Nintendo it isnt a Hybrid .. It will just be something so random.. What if it is just a controller that you use on ps4 or the xone and is required to play Nintendo games on those platforms lol..

The concept of this device is more well protected than the German Enigma machine lol..
 
Just started to read and my god so much "I did this and that, and I..." in the first sentences. Like a teen. There's a way to deal with ego (which is obviously a thing amongst leakers, they're not doing it for public safety or because morals obligations...) when you write something.

Anyway, continue reading despite this style...
There is nothing in her article that speaks to an abundance of self opinion at all. All she does is describe the history of her leaks. Trash post.
 

bachikarn

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eh, not necessarily. wii and gamecube had very different input methods, didn't stop twilight princess from being released on both platforms. each version had certain differences based on the control method, so I expect the NX version to have some things the Wii U version doesn't, and also perhaps lack some features of the Wii U version.

for a portable I'm definitely leaning towards no clickable sticks or triggers. there will probably be a ZL and ZR button ala n3ds, though.

I highly highly doubt the NX version will be in anyway inferior to the Wii U version. They are very clearly delaying the game to match the NX launch. It will have the definitive version.
 
Is there any reason why BotW couldn't have a few on-screen buttons for less frequently used tasks? I don't see why it absolutely has to have every same button the Wii-U has, unless they explicitly stated as such.

eh, not necessarily. wii and gamecube had very different input methods, didn't stop twilight princess from being released on both platforms. each version had certain differences based on the control method, so I expect the NX version to have some things the Wii U version doesn't, and also perhaps lack some features of the Wii U version.

for a portable I'm definitely leaning towards no clickable sticks or triggers. there will probably be a ZL and ZR button ala n3ds, though.

Really, the main thing that has me convinced is that the Wii U also has a touch screen, and also has motion controls. The Gamecube did not. If the Wii U has a touch screen and motion controls, and the NX version requires use of touch screen or motion control inputs, why are those inputs not even offered as an option on the Wii U version? That makes absolutely no sense...
 

LordOfChaos

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I wonder is Nintendo would be crazy enough to release a portable with a fan. Dev kits should really have the final components by now, so either Nintendo is going all-out, there really is a docked mode, or a chip based on the X1 is what we're getting. NateDrake still stands by Pascal, though?

Shield Portable had a fan, but still a large amount of unused space inside.

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I'd hope for at least significantly more heatsink than a standard mobile part so when battery isn't a concern the Pascal Tegra can do it's 'thang
 

bachikarn

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If the controllers are actually detachable, even if the base one doesn't have all the inputs, I'm sure there will be a pro version as well.
 

Branduil

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eh, not necessarily. wii and gamecube had very different input methods, didn't stop twilight princess from being released on both platforms. each version had certain differences based on the control method, so I expect the NX version to have some things the Wii U version doesn't, and also perhaps lack some features of the Wii U version.

for a portable I'm definitely leaning towards no clickable sticks or triggers. there will probably be a ZL and ZR button ala n3ds, though.

We already know the inputs are far more similar than Wii and GC. People are really reaching to be negative in illogical ways to think the NX is going to have inputs removed that both their previous consoles had, especially when we know for a fact a Wii U game that uses every input will be on NX.
 
It sounds so clunky to haul around. It could desperately use a clamshell to protect that screen too - OP got my hopes up when he said it "folds over".

It does not sound useable as a portable at all, and the more I think about the controller halves the worse they become. If they are as cramped as they look I could see the buttons adjacent to the screen becoming mushy and unresponsive, much like the PSP. And constantly removing ports like that, and the latch system it has to have for stability, will wear down the system inevitably. Those two halves will loosen just like the clamshell on the DS line does, expect now what you are holding will be wiggling around.
 
Does anybody think this rumor from months ago may have some truth to it?

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1254771

He called hybrid, something more powerful than X1 and removable screen. I mean those can't just be lucky guesses. This was a couple months prior to Eurogamers leak.

- NX is a hybrid
- removable screen
- you can customize the control
- the chipset is named Tegra N1 and it is more powerful than X1
- the price of screen is U$ 100,00 or 200,00,depending on the resolution
- controls cost U$ 50,00 each.
- you can put chips to increase the machine power
- he claims that in July we will hear more news, what happens.
 
Because it is most likely a devkit-only feature.
It's not a hybrid without TV out. Hard to use motion controllers on a portable.
Does anybody think this rumor from months ago may have some truth to it?

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1254771

He called hybrid, something more powerful than X1 and removable screen. I mean those can't just be lucky guesses. This was a couple months prior to Eurogamers leak.

- NX is a hybrid
- removable screen
- you can customize the control
- the chipset is named Tegra N1 and it is more powerful than X1
- the price of screen is U$ 100,00 or 200,00,depending on the resolution
- controls cost U$ 50,00 each.
- you can put chips to increase the machine power
- he claims that in July we will hear more news, what happens.
Would be pretty accurate if it wasn't for the screen price
 

tr1p1ex

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True knowing Nintendo it isnt a Hybrid .. It will just be something so random.. What if it is just a controller that you use on ps4 or the xone and is required to play Nintendo games on those platforms lol..

The concept of this device is more well protected than the German Enigma machine lol..

There's definitely another gimmick coming. Probably easily copyable given NIntendo is waiting longer than ever to reveal.

Maybe you can stream your PS4/X1 games to the NX.
 
Does anybody think this rumor from months ago may have some truth to it?

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1254771

He called hybrid, something more powerful than X1 and removable screen. I mean those can't just be lucky guesses. This was a couple months prior to Eurogamers leak.

- NX is a hybrid
- removable screen
- you can customize the control
- the chipset is named Tegra N1 and it is more powerful than X1
- the price of screen is U$ 100,00 or 200,00,depending on the resolution
- controls cost U$ 50,00 each.
- you can put chips to increase the machine power
- he claims that in July we will hear more news, what happens.

Claiming to know price in a leak is typically one of the hallmarks of it being fake. The things that he got right were reasonable guesses at the time and a lot of it isn't right (so far anyway).
 

Vena

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Is there any reason why BotW couldn't have a few on-screen buttons for less frequently used tasks? I don't see why it absolutely has to have every same button the Wii-U has, unless they explicitly stated as such.

eh, not necessarily. wii and gamecube had very different input methods, didn't stop twilight princess from being released on both platforms. each version had certain differences based on the control method, so I expect the NX version to have some things the Wii U version doesn't, and also perhaps lack some features of the Wii U version.

for a portable I'm definitely leaning towards no clickable sticks or triggers. there will probably be a ZL and ZR button ala n3ds, though.

You're both really bending over backwards for this.

Maybe you can buy detachable controllers with real analog sticks... That'd be a very Nintendo compensation.

Needs to play BotW as the definitive version out of the box.
 

georly

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It's not a hybrid without TV out. Hard to use motion controllers on a portable.

Would be pretty accurate if it wasn't for the screen price

I think they mean tv out built into the device AND ALSO a dock.

Can yo just hdmi the baby or does it need to be in the dock to output to tv?

The vita dev kit had hdmi out but not the retail. It's possible that's what's going on here.

Removing hdmi out from the final version could enable them to SELL you a dock if you want tv out. Would also save space on the internals of the device to allow for a sleeker design (possibly.)
 

Oregano

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Whether or not they should have the final Dev kits depends on who the source is surely. Certain devs will get priority.

Obviously if your working on a launch title you need the latest revision more than a team whose working on a title planned for a few months in.
 

optimiss

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I like the idea of this mock-up with the shoulder buttons on top and bottom. The plastic and toy-ish look is not my thing though.

(Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendo/comments/50ta34/thought_you_guys_might_like_a_little_concept/)

I love the aesthetics of this design. Very fun.

I wouldn't want the controller handles on the bottom of the screen in the portrait orientation. It makes so much more sense to center them vertically for better weight distribution.
 
Does anybody think this rumor from months ago may have some truth to it?

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1254771

He called hybrid, something more powerful than X1 and removable screen. I mean those can't just be lucky guesses. This was a couple months prior to Eurogamers leak.

- NX is a hybrid
- removable screen
- you can customize the control
- the chipset is named Tegra N1 and it is more powerful than X1
- the price of screen is U$ 100,00 or 200,00,depending on the resolution
- controls cost U$ 50,00 each.
- you can put chips to increase the machine power
- he claims that in July we will hear more news, what happens.

No it's just crap about a completely modular (to almost custom PC level) system, which isn't what NX is. Tegra was leaked days before that by semiaccurate and July was just the next feverishly speculated month for news after Nintendo said NX would skip E3.
 
Is there any reason why BotW couldn't have a few on-screen buttons for less frequently used tasks? I don't see why it absolutely has to have every same button the Wii-U has, unless they explicitly stated as such.

Because if the tablet is docked you won't have access to the screen.
 
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