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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock

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tr1p1ex

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I think it more has to do with the fact that they are essentially cutting development for the Wii U in favor of the NX. The last e3 pretty much gave us a clear picture that they mailed in development for it in favor of shifting everything to the NX. Outside of Paper Mario and Zelda everyone was working on the NX imo.

Also if you look at the type of games released on the 3ds since then including the direct.. They are all pretty weak titles outside of maybe a few signature names like Metroid / Pikimin / Mario Maker and so on.. Nothing of real value (excluding any Pokemon titles that come out like clock work)..

My theory was that they dont want to spin down two consoles at the same time making it look like they are abandoning both even tho the titles announced makes it seem that way. Going into Christmas Nintendo literally has nothing and its going to be really bad once they announce the NX unless they are doing pre orders for the console lol...The timing of everything is jacked because they didnt think the Wii U would fall off the table as badly as it did along with the 3ds trending downwards.

Well xmas is where they make all their money so I get Mario Maker 3ds suddenly being announced in time for xmas given they won't have anything new for consoles for first time ever!!!! They had some room.

But they did already have POkemon and Mario Party 3ds for xmas. Quite a few new 3ds games came out this year too that probably will sell alright at xmas. Then the mini-NES is coming and seems like it will sell well. They didn't have nothing overall. PLus they had Amiibos. And NIntendo Selects.

They also said they don't want software shortages on the NX. Yet ...announcements of 3ds games for 2017.

Who is going to care about these 3ds titles in 2017 when the NX is announced? And yeah those titles have a short development cycle given they are spinoffs and not their AAA stuff. Hell they probably were just started this year.

Why are they doing this unless they plan on continuing to market the 3ds for awhile and why would do that unless the NX is going to be expensive.

IF they are truly going down to one platform from 2 then why would they care about making games for the 3ds next year.

I can always see the simple money angle. The 3ds has 60 million install base. Making a Yoshi Woolly World, Mario Sports, Pikmin Zip Lash spin-off is easy money!!!! I guess I can also see the we want to sell 3ds's this xmas and announcing some rather inexpensive games for next year will ease the minds of parents that want might think about a 3ds this xmas for their kid. ..personally though I never really saw why the latter matters. It has enough games in its library that it doesn't matter if gets any new games if you don't own one yet.
 

J@hranimo

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I wish we were at the point in gaming discourse where he could just say "better" or "improved" instead of this ambiguity that leaves the door open for the Wii U game to be the better one. Oh well.

I'm pretty sure the visuals will be improved a bit, The NX will be stronger than a Wii U. They just chose weird words lol.
 

Peltz

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This is actually my biggest qualm about the system as described. Detachable controllers seem like they'll add significantly to the cost and likely compromise ergonomics as well, and for the sake of something that I just don't think is that compelling a selling point in 2017.
Yea, I don't really get the detachable controller concept yet (at least not with such a small screen).

Nobody has been able to articulate how this is a true selling point.
 

Anarky

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I'll never understand what compels people to make these, to be honest. Does seeing a slapped together hypothetical game boxart make people extra hyped? You even went as far as writing that flavor text on the back?

Who shit in your cereal? Dude just did it for fun man.
 
Yea, I don't really get the detachable controller concept yet (at least not with such a small screen).

Nobody has been able to articulate how this is a true selling point.
When plugged into the dock it'll function like two Wii mote+ controllers which allows for new types of games+two player multiplayer outside of the box. I imagine there's still demand for those kinds of games.
There's also apparently some "next-generation vibration" according to her article which might be cool.
Imagine swinging a sword and it feeling like you hit something or shooting a gun that has a very slight knock back. Not sure if that's more ambitious than what Laura or Emily says here, tho
 
I'm pretty sure the visuals will be improved a bit, The NX will be stronger than a Wii U. They just chose weird words lol.

Has anyone actually proven that tegra k1 (old) and Tegra Parker (new) are definitively more powerful than a Wii U? I know that the K1 is most definitely better than a 3ds based on the shield tablet / shield portable.

Of course this is assuming they are using tegra lol...
 
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Deleted member 465307

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Oddly enough, I'm quite excited to have this device to not only play all my Nintendo traditional games, but also my Nintendo mobile ones. If Nintendo starts integrating these products more, I'd be pretty happy with playing AC Mobile, accomplishing a few things, and then heading on over to AC5 and reaping those benefits. Ideally, I could play my Nintendo mobile games across both my NX and my actual phone via an account system because I'll likely always keep my NX at home.

I just really like the idea of having one device that plays all things Nintendo.
 

Hoo-doo

Banned
God forbid someone has fun.

Jeez, all you guys are acting like I kicked his dog. I'll admit that I realize my post could be interpreted as coming across kinda harsh.
I was just wondering what inspires people to make these. Are they graphic designers or just fans? Do they write the flavor text themselves?

And I do actually have a (very useless) bachelor's degree in graphic design, maybe that's why I thought it was kind of a stretch to call that kind of stuff 'fun'.

No offense intended, guys. Carry on. I'm actually kinda interested in the NX box design.
 

tr1p1ex

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PC games don't have to comply with the limitations of 240p and very poor CPU and GPU. You just can't use the same assets and geometry on both 3ds and NX. At least if NX really gets games that benefit of its power.

Nonsense. The 3ds and Wii U share assets. And resolutions of various pcs vary widely. And you're missing the context besides which was why is Nintendo suddenly showing the 3ds a lot of love with the NX around the corner? And that reasonably might be because it is easy to port those games for the NX as well.
 
Has anyone actually proven that tegra k1 (old) and Tegra Parker (new) are definitively more powerful than a Wii U? I know that the K1 is most definitely better than a 3ds based on the shield tablet / shield portable.

Of course this is assuming they are using tegra lol...
K1 isn't being mentioned in any discussion. It's X1 which is supposed to be. Especially if it's a pascal based custom chip
 

Davey Cakes

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$249.99 is not out of the realm of possibility.

Yeah, 3DS failed at that but Nintendo can repeat what they did with their consoles:

Include a PACK-IN GAME. *gasp*

It wouldn't even have to be a gimmick-based title like Wii Sports or Nintendo Land. It could be something that's traditional but sells the concept of the NX. It could even be a small collection of compatible legacy games; something that would be of little monetary investment from Nintendo.
 
I'll never understand what compels people to make these, to be honest. Does seeing a slapped together hypothetical game boxart make people extra hyped? You even went as far as writing that flavor text on the back?

Hahahaha, it's funny because it is ridiculous but I also love it. I remember making these in MS Paint when the Wii was announced. It was so funny. I think mockups like this help us imagine, speculate and get HYPED.
 

PantherLotus

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(meanwhile Miyamoto is putting the finishing touches on his NX / Mario masterpiece that makes a bizarre control scheme both necessary and impossible to adapt for 3rd parties)

(nothing but love my man)
 

udivision

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I'm pretty sure the visuals will be improved a bit, The NX will be stronger than a Wii U. They just chose weird words lol.

There's probably no way it runs worse on the NX.

Most likely you're right. But looking at all the games that have been announced, and they way they have been announced (Just Dance, DQX, DQXI, Zelda: BOTW) for some reason we can't definitively say that... which is why the word choice becomes potentially more meaningful in these pre-announcement days.
 
K1 isn't being mentioned in any discussion. It's X1 which is supposed to be. Especially if it's a pascal based custom chip

I am just covering my bases assuming Nintendo isnt going to use the latest and greatest Tegra tech. I remember this discussion when the Wii U was coming out with everyone thinking it would an amazing Power 7 chip... then they ended up duct taping the Wii chips together lol...

With Nintendo you need to assume they should use the latest tech but then back date it 5 generations and that is what they end up using.
 
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We all thought that this would be the case, but The Legend of Zelda producer Eiji Aonuma has told Tom Phillips at Eurogamer that the Nintendo NX version of The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild will be the same experience but will feature different visuals.

Is there a source for this? I can't find it.
 
Oddly enough, I'm quite excited to have this device to not only play all my Nintendo traditional games, but also my Nintendo mobile ones. If Nintendo starts integrating these products more, I'd be pretty happy with playing AC Mobile, accomplishing a few things, and then heading on over to AC5 and reaping those benefits. Ideally, I could play my Nintendo mobile games across both my NX and my actual phone via an account system because I'll likely always keep my NX at home.

I just really like the idea of having one device that plays all things Nintendo.
You wont be able to play any mobile games that use a camera or mictophone. NX don't have them "built in". I mean, I couldn't care less about a potato quality camera or microphone, but just to let you know
 
We all thought that this would be the case, but The Legend of Zelda producer Eiji Aonuma has told Tom Phillips at Eurogamer that the Nintendo NX version of The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild will be the same experience but will feature different visuals.

Wasn't that debunked shortly after E3 as Tom Phillips' speculation, rather than what Aonuma actually told him? As in, Aonuma told him it would be the same experience, and Tom just assumed that meant different visuals, though Aonuma never said different visuals.
 

orioto

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Won't be the first time i'm thinking at loud randomly in those threads but hey that's how i have fun i guess :p

While we're speaking of local multi with detachable controller, we always think about one screen (and all rumors mention just one screen so my idea is probably 99% wrong but anyway)

What about..

NXSans-titre-1.jpg

NXSans-titre-2.jpg


That's the kind of thing past Nintendo would have loooooved. The power of the NX would eventually let it handle 2 screen entirely, and both player wouldn't see the other one (imagine the incredible possibilities), and all that with motion control etc..

And it's probably not impossible to budget with low quality 720 screens.
At least THAT would surprise people!
 
Not sure if this was discussed previously but this could lead to more theories or insight into the power of the nx...

“With Twilight Princess, I was looking at, this [then-new] platform called Wii and I had more of an outsider objective view of, ‘Oh this is coming out,’ he said. “But for this one I was slightly more involved with NX and just judging on the timing of development. When we were going to finish this, we thought it might be fun to have that available for NX as well. I don't see it as something too unfortunate. I think it's nice to have a single title that can be played on two different platforms.”

We all thought that this would be the case, but The Legend of Zelda producer Eiji Aonuma has told Tom Phillips at Eurogamer that the Nintendo NX version of The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild will be the same experience but will feature different visuals.
Aonuma never said ANYTHING about the game's visuals.
 

axisofweevils

Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Listening to the LetsPlayVideoGames podcast, and it has some more info about the NX.

Apparently, when it comes to the Social button, their source mentioned facebook and twitter, but Twitch wasn't mentioned at all. Take that as you will. Also, it was LPVG's source that drew the wobbly NX image, not the LPVG staff. They're kinda annoyed that people thought they drew it lol.
 

J@hranimo

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Has anyone actually proven that tegra k1 (old) and Tegra Parker (new) are definitively more powerful than a Wii U? I know that the K1 is most definitely better than a 3ds based on the shield tablet / shield portable.

Of course this is assuming they are using tegra lol...

It's going to be a stronger system because:

I've said it before, but "Buy our new device and play a worse version of our flagship game" is not much of a sales pitch.
 
Was gonna start a thread, but I don't think I need to.

Basically I have to buy a gift for a kid who is turning 7. He has a PS4 and wants a WiiU. I think he is willing to wait until maybe christmas or early next year, so I'm debating whether I should get him the WiiU or something else, like a bike or a toy. Considering the WiiU probably won't receive a lot more games and NX is right around the corner then it makes sense to get him the NX.

I guess the question is, should I wait for Xmas or just go ahead and get it now? What is the most likely release date for this system and will it be BC (disk or digital)? I haven't kept up with any rumors regarding it.
 
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You wont be able to play any mobile games that use a camera or mictophone. NX don't have them "built in". I mean, I couldn't care less about a potato quality camera or microphone, but just to let you know

Well, I guess that rules out Miitomo. But hopefully not the others! It'd be okay if it doesn't play Nintendo mobile games, though. I can just keep them on my phone if needed... *sigh*

Wasn't that debunked shortly after E3 as Tom Phillips' speculation, rather than what Aonuma actually told him? As in, Aonuma told him it would be the same experience, and Tom just assumed that meant different visuals, though Aonuma never said different visuals.

Yeah, I didn't remember who it was, but this is what I recall. People were spreading around a tweet saying that the visuals would be different, Emily Rogers (or someone) then tweeted asking if Aonuma actually said that, and the person responded that Aonuma didn't and he was just assuming. But I don't know if that was Tom Phillips because I can't remember who was the person who tweeted that.

Was gonna start a thread, but I don't think I need to.

Basically I have to buy a gift for a kid who is turning 7. He has a PS4 and wants a WiiU. I think he is willing to wait until maybe christmas or early next year, so I'm debating whether I should get him the WiiU or something else, like a bike or a toy. Considering the WiiU probably won't receive a lot more games and NX is right around the corner then it makes sense to get him the NX.

I guess the question is, should I wait for Xmas or just go ahead and get it now? What is the most likely release date for this system and will it be BC (disk or digital)? I haven't kept up with any rumors regarding it.

March 2017 is the planned release date for NX. Rumors point to no backwards compatibility with Wii U because it supposedly uses cartridges rather than discs. 3DS backwards compatibility hasn't really been talked about, but that doesn't seem likely either unless it's via emulation.

As for the question of whether it's worth getting a Wii U...well, you're right that there won't be many more games released for the system (apart from smaller indie titles and Virtual Console stuff, all that's left is mostly just Paper Mario: Color Splash and The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild). However, there are still 4 years of games that are already available. So that's up to you to decide. Between 3DS and NX, it's beginning to sound like a lot of the notable Wii U titles are going to be ported to other systems or get sequels on those systems. It also sounds like NX could likely be priced around the same as what Wii U is currently or cheaper. But there will likely be a few great Wii U exclusives that won't leave the system for years until Wii U emulation is possible on a future Nintendo console.

But really, before making any decisions, I'd say wait a few more weeks. The reveal is rumored to be happening this month, and we'll all know a lot more then.
 

Oregano

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Was gonna start a thread, but I don't think I need to.

Basically I have to buy a gift for a kid who is turning 7. He has a PS4 and wants a WiiU. I think he is willing to wait until maybe christmas or early next year, so I'm debating whether I should get him the WiiU or something else, like a bike or a toy. Considering the WiiU probably won't receive a lot more games and NX is right around the corner then it makes sense to get him the NX.

I guess the question is, should I wait for Xmas or just go ahead and get it now? What is the most likely release date for this system and will it be BC (disk or digital)? I haven't kept up with any rumors regarding it.

It's coming out March at the earliest. Probably no BC but they might port some Wii U games.
 

MCN

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Was gonna start a thread, but I don't think I need to.

Basically I have to buy a gift for a kid who is turning 7. He has a PS4 and wants a WiiU. I think he is willing to wait until maybe christmas or early next year, so I'm debating whether I should get him the WiiU or something else, like a bike or a toy. Considering the WiiU probably won't receive a lot more games and NX is right around the corner then it makes sense to get him the NX.

I guess the question is, should I wait for Xmas or just go ahead and get it now? What is the most likely release date for this system and will it be BC (disk or digital)? I haven't kept up with any rumors regarding it.

It's not going to be backwards compatible. It's likely to release in March. If he wants a Wii U, there's probably a specific game or games he wants, and they may never come to NX.
 
Was gonna start a thread, but I don't think I need to.

Basically I have to buy a gift for a kid who is turning 7. He has a PS4 and wants a WiiU. I think he is willing to wait until maybe christmas or early next year, so I'm debating whether I should get him the WiiU or something else, like a bike or a toy. Considering the WiiU probably won't receive a lot more games and NX is right around the corner then it makes sense to get him the NX.

I guess the question is, should I wait for Xmas or just go ahead and get it now? What is the most likely release date for this system and will it be BC (disk or digital)? I haven't kept up with any rumors regarding it.
It'll be out sometime in March of next year.
It seems to be a large portable similar in size to the Wii U Gamepad which you can also connect to the TV to play there as well.
It will use cartridges, not discs.
 

tr1p1ex

Member
Was gonna start a thread, but I don't think I need to.

Basically I have to buy a gift for a kid who is turning 7. He has a PS4 and wants a WiiU. I think he is willing to wait until maybe christmas or early next year, so I'm debating whether I should get him the WiiU or something else, like a bike or a toy. Considering the WiiU probably won't receive a lot more games and NX is right around the corner then it makes sense to get him the NX.

I guess the question is, should I wait for Xmas or just go ahead and get it now? What is the most likely release date for this system and will it be BC (disk or digital)? I haven't kept up with any rumors regarding it.

I would wait until the NX announcement.

As far as the Wii U goes...I never really saw why it matters if a system will get new games if you are buying the system for the first time in year 4 or 5 or 6. You will have plenty of games to play.

I mean I bought Gamecube at least 3 years into its lifecycle. It barely got a game after that. And I had great fun with it and got my money's worth and then some. Not only was the system cheap by the time I bought in but all the great games were dirt cheap.

So I don't see anything wrong with getting a Wii U now except I do remember as a kid wanting to play the newest games and the Wii U is not that console.
 

udivision

Member
(meanwhile Miyamoto is putting the finishing touches on his NX / Mario masterpiece that makes a bizarre control scheme both necessary and impossible to adapt for 3rd parties)

(nothing but love my man)

In 2026, after launching a Netflix-like Virtual Console service for their latest hardware, Nintendo suddenly realizes that they need to reproduce half a dozen types of their old controllers for some odd reason.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I guess I don't get why some people immediately brush off the possibility of a low price.

No disc drive means less money per system.

720p screens aren't top of the line and a 32 GB SD card is cheap.

No console to actually go along with an expensive controller. A simple charging dock with USBs and an HDMI port would be super cheap.

With that innovative controller hookup patent reducing the need for expensive internals, the controller accessories packed in could be incredibly cheap if that patent technology is utilized here.

Then, to top it all off, Semi-Accurate were the ones who broke the news of Nvidia making the CPU. Included in that report was the news that it was a fantastic deal for Nintendo.

Put all of those together, and I'm not seeing where the $300 expense is coming from. If these are all true, Nintendo could absolutely drop this thing for under $200. I know people are claiming the New Galaxy 3DS is $200, but NX isn't hitting for 6 months. They could withhold any information about price until after the holiday season.
 
I guess I don't get why some people immediately brush off the possibility of a low price.

No disc drive means less money per system.

720p screens aren't top of the line and a 32 GB SD card is cheap.

No console to actually go along with an expensive controller. A simple charging dock with USBs and an HDMI port would be super cheap.

With that innovative controller hookup patent reducing the need for expensive internals, the controller accessories packed in could be incredibly cheap if that patent technology is utilized here.

Then, to top it all off, Semi-Accurate were the ones who broke the news of Nvidia making the CPU. Included in that report was the news that it was a fantastic deal for Nintendo.

Put all of those together, and I'm not seeing where the $300 expense is coming from. If these are all true, Nintendo could absolutely drop this thing for under $200. I know people are claiming the New Galaxy 3DS is $200, but NX isn't hitting for 6 months. They could withhold any information about price until after the holiday season.

All of that, and I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but the Shield TV retails at $199 and includes a Tegra X1, and since Nvidia don't make any licensing money on the software for it, they need to sell the physical device itself for a fairly high profit margin. Likely $50 or more, meaning it would cost $150 for them to manufacture and sell.

I really think Nintendo could sell this rumored NX for $199. I think that would be a perfect mass market price and would drive a pretty successful launch.

The high price of the new 3DS and the Wii U (still) are much more about getting the most out of their remaining sales than they are indicative of how much those systems cost to make. Also consider when the 3DS launched it had that super expensive stereoscopic screen, and when the Wii U launched it had the super expensive proprietary streaming tech (along with a 6.2 inch 480p screen which was likely a custom order at the time) all driving up costs. Nothing we've heard about so far in the NX would drive up costs like those exotic components did. There might be something down the road, but as it is rumored now, this device is very likely doable at $200.
 

Trago

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All of that, and I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but the Shield TV retails at $199 and includes a Tegra X1, and since Nvidia don't make any licensing money on the software for it, they need to sell the physical device itself for a fairly high profit margin. Likely $50 or more, meaning it would cost $150 for them to manufacture and sell.

I really think Nintendo could sell this rumored NX for $199. I think that would be a perfect mass market price and would drive a pretty successful launch.

While that all makes sense, I wouldn't be surprised if they charge upwards of $250 for this thing. $199 or below would be perfect.
 

User Tron

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Won't be the first time i'm thinking at loud randomly in those threads but hey that's how i have fun i guess :p

While we're speaking of local multi with detachable controller, we always think about one screen (and all rumors mention just one screen so my idea is probably 99% wrong but anyway)

What about..

NXSans-titre-1.jpg

NXSans-titre-2.jpg


That's the kind of thing past Nintendo would have loooooved. The power of the NX would eventually let it handle 2 screen entirely, and both player wouldn't see the other one (imagine the incredible possibilities), and all that with motion control etc..

And it's probably not impossible to budget with low quality 720 screens.
At least THAT would surprise people!

I like it.
 

tr1p1ex

Member
I guess I don't get why some people immediately brush off the possibility of a low price.

No disc drive means less money per system.

720p screens aren't top of the line and a 32 GB SD card is cheap.

No console to actually go along with an expensive controller. A simple charging dock with USBs and an HDMI port would be super cheap.

With that innovative controller hookup patent reducing the need for expensive internals, the controller accessories packed in could be incredibly cheap.

Then, to top it all off, Semi-Accurate were the ones who broke the news of Nvidia making the CPU. Included in that report was the news that it was a fantastic deal for Nintendo.

Put all of those together, and I'm not seeing where the $300 expense is coming from. If these are all true, Nintendo could absolutely drop this thing for under $200. I know people are claiming the New Galaxy 3DS is $200, but NX isn't hitting for 6 months. They could withhold any information about price until after the holiday season.

How much is NIntendo selling the Wii U for today and how much is Nintendo selling the 3ds XL for today? And what is the NX supposed to be and how much of an upgrade is it over those products? That's a decent guide to what the NX will be priced at.

btw, you don't have to claim the New 3ds Xl Galaxy is $200. It is $200. Also it is irrelevant whether Nintendo mentions the price now or later as to what the price will be at launch.
 

Doctre81

Member
That's the regular Wii U gamepad with a badly scaled screen put on top of it in post-processing. Normally done to hide the glare of the screen and to make it readable, but since this is such a fast scene perhaps they also made the image bigger to make it stand out more.

No it isn't. Look at your gamepad.
 
Put all of those together, and I'm not seeing where the $300 expense is coming from. If these are all true, Nintendo could absolutely drop this thing for under $200. I know people are claiming the New Galaxy 3DS is $200, but NX isn't hitting for 6 months. They could withhold any information about price until after the holiday season.


Think of it in the scope of a tablet or phone.. What modern high quality tablet or phone is actually less than 300 bux?

Even the Nexus line by google is more than that.. even the one plus 3 is higher than 300 bux.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
How much is NIntendo selling the Wii U for today and how much is Nintendo selling the 3ds XL for today? And what is the NX supposed to be and how much of an upgrade is it over those products? That's a decent guide to what the NX will be priced at.

Because both Wii U and 3ds were expensive to produce and there is no reason to drop the price for Wii U and for 3ds yet (I'm sure it will discounted latest at NX launch). Nintendo said a number of times that they learned their lesson. There is nothing in what we know until now about NX that should drive the price up too much.

All the Nvidia Shield products launched at around $200 and there is nothing in NX that points to a more expensive product than that.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
How much is NIntendo selling the Wii U for today and how much is Nintendo selling the 3ds XL for today? And what is the NX supposed to be and how much of an upgrade is it over those products? That's a decent guide to what the NX will be priced at.

btw, you don't have to claim the New 3ds Xl Galaxy is $200. It is $200. Also it is irrelevant whether Nintendo mentions the price now or later as to what the price will be at launch.

You didn't refute anything I said in that post. Merely "Wii U is this, therefore NX must be this." That doesn't always apply.

Think of it in the scope of a tablet or phone.. What modern high quality tablet or phone is actually less than 300 bux?

Even the Nexus line by google is more than that.. even the one plus 3 is higher than 300 bux.

This means nothing. Look at the internals and what is actually involved in production.
 
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