James Scott
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Splatoon should work, maybe have a button bring up the map and you can point to where you want to go. Maybe this is how they handle making touch screen games work on the TV
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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock
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Splatoon should work, maybe have a button bring up the map and you can point to where you want to go. Maybe this is how they handle making touch screen games work on the TV
I don't think it is primarily a handheld. I think it is whatever you want it to be.
And remember it is much faster than the $200 New 3ds XL. It is also larger with the 6.2 screen, and has a greater resolution plus has detachable controllers and a dock with USB ports that connects to the tv. All this means more $$$$.
And looking at it from the console side of things, Nintendo still sells the Wii U at $300. The NX is a Wii U+ packed into something the size of the Gamepad. This saves some money on packaging and shelf space and storage space, but it cost $$$ to miniaturize things and add a screen and battery.
pinkurocket
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I wonder if this is NX.
That's the regular Wii U gamepad with a badly scaled screen put on top of it in post-processing. Normally done to hide the glare of the screen and to make it readable, but since this is such a fast scene perhaps they also made the image bigger to make it stand out more.
LegendofLex
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I think there are a few that strongly benefit while also working well with traditional or touch controls:
- Mario Kart/any other racing game (tilt controls or stick controls for steering)
- Zelda (pointer, gyro, or dual analog controls for aiming)
- Metroid Prime/any other first-person shooter (pointer, gyro assist, or dual analog for aiming)
- Splatoon/any other third-person shooter (gyro or dual analog for aiming)
- Pikmin (pointer, touch screen, or dual analog for aiming)
- Duck Hunt (pointer on TV, touch while portable)
- Kid Icarus Uprising-style (pointer, gyro assist, touch, or dual-analog for aiming)
- Sports games (gesture controls or button controls for actions)
th3sicknness
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They combined and streamlined their hardware / software teams across portables and home console. They have gone through the motions to revamp nintendo club and their online account system making 1 unique ID. They play tested smash on a portable and a handheld.. Everything they have done / said up to this point has indicated they want to be like the ipad / iphone and have 1 platform to make games for with all their IP.
I just dont think they are going to be hung up on making 2 versions of anything after its release. They are prolly releasing what they have left in the canforf 3ds software and going to spin that down as quickly as they spin the Wii U software at the last e3 / direct.
It's pretty hard to guess the price the NX could go for.
New 3DS XL is $199.99 without a bundle. (no AC adapter either
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Xbox One is $249.99 bundled with a game or with Kinect (checked official store).
Wii U is $299.99 bundled with a game and extras (Mario Maker and Amiibo, etc).
I presume the 3DS/Wii U will get a price drop when NX launches, then the NX launches between $199.99 and $249.99? Assuming there is only one SKU ...
New 3DS XL is $199.99 without a bundle. (no AC adapter either
)Xbox One is $249.99 bundled with a game or with Kinect (checked official store).
Wii U is $299.99 bundled with a game and extras (Mario Maker and Amiibo, etc).
I presume the 3DS/Wii U will get a price drop when NX launches, then the NX launches between $199.99 and $249.99? Assuming there is only one SKU ...
Do you guys think there will be a pointer ? How will that work in portable mode ?
Also a thing to consider, again. Any game requiring the controllers to be detached will not be considered portable anymore You need at least a planar surface to play them.. So the idea of motion control is cool but that creates a difference between games being playable everywhere and others requiring some comfort.
A USB 3.0 port is enough to power an external HDD. No more Y cables.
Makes actually a lot of sense with the internal storage being just 32GB. Even Wii U allows you to move games and save data between internal and external storage. With USB 3.0 it should work pretty fast, so you can just move whatever game you want on the internal storage. Even high capacity SD are not high enough to cover for a lifetime of digital games.
Where the hell this AR thing popped up. It's repeated by several people and I don't know where it originated. Nintendo is not even into AR that much. Remember, Pokemon GO is not developed by Nintendo.
No, it's not. The difference in power is so big that it doesn't allow easy porting.
That's what I thought with the NX around the corner but then this Nintendo Direct extended 3ds software well into 2017. And another rumors says Nintendo plans to support the 3ds thru 2018.
Nah. Definitely the NX.
LegendofLex
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Notice that I didn't list a single game that actually requires motion controls.
I do think we'll have some pointer functionality, if for no other reason to make Wii games playable digitally on the system.
It's also worth pointing out that you can actually play Wii games using the Wii U GamePad, without the Wii Sensor Bar or a TV. So it's possible to support those games while playing just on the portable...just probably not in all play environments.
That New 3ds XL won't be $200 anymore in March 2017.
The Abominable Snowman
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It's not a bad selling machine by any means, but it will never be a 'hit.' It's done 60M over 5 1/2 years. It'll never recover from that terrible >$200 launch and efforts to creep the price upwards have been met with market resistance. I don't see the logic in them trying again for a $250+ price point.
Believe.
in what you want
Pc games can play on systems with wildly varying power. There's also plenty of games made for the 360/PS3 and the X1/PS4 and still being made. AAA games.
Might want to rethink what you said.
Plus the point was this would be done to smooth the transition from the 60 million install base of the 3ds to the ramp up of the NX from 0. And Nintendo make alot of games for the 3ds next year that could easily be ported to the NX.
Not every NX game would also be a 3ds game. BotW isn't going to be a 3ds game for example.
Indeed but it's always the same problem. if motion control has to be an option, is it really interesting in the way the game is designed to begin with..
I suddenly hope Nintendo is not soo clueless that they're like "maaan we basically have a portable wii, people will looooove that!! Let's call it WiiAround or WiiOut or something like that and bundle it with WiiSport!"
I wonder if this is NX.
This was debunked months ago.
IT could drop a bit in price. It might not.
Yup. See the curved corners of the screen? Free form display technology right there. Nintendo is taking sleekness to the the next level by going back to the past with tube television aesthetics.
No pointer since it requires a sensor bar.
You can have a pseudo pointer like in skyward sword. That game didn't actually use the sensor bar, just the motion plus.
In handheld mode you'd obviously just touch the touch screen silly.
th3sicknness
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I think it more has to do with the fact that they are essentially cutting development for the Wii U in favor of the NX. The last e3 pretty much gave us a clear picture that they mailed in development for it in favor of shifting everything to the NX. Outside of Paper Mario and Zelda everyone was working on the NX imo.
Also if you look at the type of games released on the 3ds since then including the direct.. They are all pretty weak titles outside of maybe a few signature names like Metroid / Pikimin / Mario Maker and so on.. Nothing of real value (excluding any Pokemon titles that come out like clock work)..
My theory was that they dont want to spin down two consoles at the same time making it look like they are abandoning both even tho the titles announced makes it seem that way. Going into Christmas Nintendo literally has nothing and its going to be really bad once they announce the NX unless they are doing pre orders for the device lol...The timing of everything is jacked because they didnt think the Wii U would fall off the table as badly as it did along with the 3ds trending downwards.
RavageDark
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Or maybe it's an indication that the NX isn't as much of a handheld as Emily's and Eurogamer's sources make it out to be.
I'll never understand what compels people to make these, to be honest. Does seeing a slapped together hypothetical game boxart make people extra hyped? You even went as far as writing that flavor text on the back?
PC games don't have to comply with the limitations of 240p and very poor CPU and GPU. You just can't use the same assets and geometry on both 3ds and NX. At least if NX really gets games that benefit of its power.
I think it's because they like speculation and they like keeping their Photoshop skills sharp, so they just combined their interests.
People like to mess around with design. It's not too hard to grasp.
(Although the back-of-box text is the extra mile, ha.)
Spiral Insanity
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Its neat to see and fun to make, and it takes skill too.
Emily Rogers posted a wrap up of things we should expect in the retail NX version.
TL;DR: No Camera/Mic on portable NX. At least 2 shoulder buttons. Battery life doesn't sound great. NX launch in March, is ahead of schedule. More at the link.
https://arcadegirl64.wordpress.com/2016/09/02/rumor-what-should-we-expect-from-the-final-nx-product
Takashi Mochizuki from WSJ backed Eurogamer's rumor of NX using cartridges.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/nintend...go-retro-with-videogame-cartridges-1472811942
I also updated it in the op.
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I can't speak for the maker, but it can be fun to mess around in photo editing programs like that. Also, even though it's just amateur stuff, it's also a good way of practicing your skills and, depending what you make and its quality, building your portfolio.
I am very curious what it means when she writes that the system is ahead of schedule.
3ds gets one recycled Mario sports game (made from existing Mario sports games) and 2 Wii U ports. You're greatly overestimating the support 3ds is getting. That's standard support for a device at the end of its life. Admittedly, this is a new thing for Nintendo who usually drops the support even before the new devices comes out.
So, don't laugh, but i was just trying to think about the size and the local multi player theory.
I used that tissue box, coincidently not far from my bed, cause it's roughly the same height as the 3ds xl (wich is roughly the size of the leaked NX screen size.
If you use the NX with a stand (there has to be a stand right, ala ipad ?) and you detach the controller, it should be this kind of scale ? Now imagine two players do that.
What do you think ? is it comfortable ? The distance, the size of the screen ? I'm just wondering.
On an amusing note, you'll notice that a clamshell design would let us put the screen anywhere, even on a bed with sheets..
Well, a friend and I used the gamepad as a screen to play NSMBU once, in the room over. It worked pretty alright tbh.
It's pretty hard to guess the price the NX could go for.
New 3DS XL is $199.99 without a bundle. (no AC adapter either
Xbox One is $249.99 bundled with a game or with Kinect (checked official store).
Wii U is $299.99 bundled with a game and extras (Mario Maker and Amiibo, etc).
I presume the 3DS/Wii U will get a price drop when NX launches, then the NX launches between $199.99 and $249.99? Assuming there is only one SKU ...
NX cheaper than current WiiU price?
Since I suppose this is the main NX thread now, remember the Prisma-altered tease from the Bplus guy? Here's the game, officially announced
http://gonintendo.com/stories/264393-bplus-announces-anti-war-game-tank-it-for-steam-and-nintendo-nx
http://gonintendo.com/stories/264393-bplus-announces-anti-war-game-tank-it-for-steam-and-nintendo-nx
th3sicknness
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Not sure if this was discussed previously but this could lead to more theories or insight into the power of the nx...
“With Twilight Princess, I was looking at, this [then-new] platform called Wii and I had more of an outsider objective view of, ‘Oh this is coming out,’ he said. “But for this one I was slightly more involved with NX and just judging on the timing of development. When we were going to finish this, we thought it might be fun to have that available for NX as well. I don't see it as something too unfortunate. I think it's nice to have a single title that can be played on two different platforms.”
We all thought that this would be the case, but The Legend of Zelda producer Eiji Aonuma has told Tom Phillips at Eurogamer that the Nintendo NX version of The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild will be the same experience but will feature different visuals.
“With Twilight Princess, I was looking at, this [then-new] platform called Wii and I had more of an outsider objective view of, ‘Oh this is coming out,’ he said. “But for this one I was slightly more involved with NX and just judging on the timing of development. When we were going to finish this, we thought it might be fun to have that available for NX as well. I don't see it as something too unfortunate. I think it's nice to have a single title that can be played on two different platforms.”
We all thought that this would be the case, but The Legend of Zelda producer Eiji Aonuma has told Tom Phillips at Eurogamer that the Nintendo NX version of The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild will be the same experience but will feature different visuals.
Sorceror12
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New rumor, SMD and Emily Rogers same person. This way they are right.
Looks like they made up on twitter. only makes sense right?
Looks like they made up on twitter. only makes sense right?
wild wild rice
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"At least two shoulder buttons."
Nintendo.
Please.
We can all handle four shoulder buttons.
Nintendo.
Please.
We can all handle four shoulder buttons.
It probably will, seeing as BotW uses every single button that the Wii U has.
LegendofLex
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Nintendo is dead if NX is $300 or higher, so...
ah nice, thanks
James Scott
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Even new 3DS has 4 shoulder buttons
Leona Lewis
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So you don't do anything for fun? Or whimsy?
I personally will only get out of bed for $10,000, so it's nice to see some likeminded folk on here.
It's pretty weird to me how Nintendo clearly cares about framerate whenever they can, but 3D Zeldas have NEVER been 60 FPS. It feels like a conscious decision at this point.
Maybe they think it's legitimately wasted on the franchise (3D anyway) ?
Has this been mentioned yet? We have another NX game confirmed, Bplus' anti-war game Tank It! (Also for Steam)
Wonder if they actually got a devkit...
Oh, beaten. But yeah, still wonder if they're actually working on NX devkits as we speak...
God forbid someone has fun.
Wonder if they actually got a devkit...
Oh, beaten. But yeah, still wonder if they're actually working on NX devkits as we speak...
God forbid someone has fun.
Yeah I never knew why myself. I guess with Zelda they tend to try to push the system with it's distinct art style, mechanics, and world building. I wonder if they'll change that someday.
I can see the pitch for it, kind of. The problem is that it weighs too much into the idea of NX as a portable, which given the size rumors, Nintendo isn't likely going to market this as something people can really carry around. Bearing that in mind, however...
Imagine you're at lunch break at college playing something on your NX, friend comes by and looks over your shoulder, says it looks really cool, you say "you want to play with me? It's got multiplayer." They say "nah, i don't have one of those," and you just snap off the controller bits and start playing. It lets everyone who has an NX be an NX evangelist because you can do pickup, on-the-spot multiplayer with anyone, anywhere, anytime (as long as the battery doesn't die).
But again, that presupposes that people are going to be carrying the device around with them.
LegendofLex
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In general, 3D Zeldas have cut lots of corners to achieve scope.
N64 Zeldas ran at 20fps.
GameCube Zeldas used new loading techniques for their open overworld areas.
Skyward Sword had that ridiculous mandatory transition between the sky and the surface.
I wish we were at the point in gaming discourse where he could just say "better" or "improved" instead of this ambiguity that leaves the door open for the Wii U game to be the better one. Oh well.
PantherLotus
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This is hateful as hell, man. It's just for fun and speculation.
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