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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock
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An analog stick underneath the buttons instead of above.
Lupin the Third
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Asymmetrical analog pad/stick placement.
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What would make you think that? When NX was first mentioned back in 2015, if there's anything I would have guaranteed the system would have (whether it was a handheld, hybrid, or home console), it would have been NFC. Just because it hasn't been mentioned yet doesn't mean it doesn't have it. Unless you've heard the final retail version won't have NFC?
The only thing I could maybe see is that there's no NFC in the portable itself and it's only in the dock (since I think most people keep their amiibo at home and while at home, the screen might not be accessible if it's docked), but I can't see the device not having it in some way. But I'd guess the portable (or a controller core that the detachable controllers can plug into at home) does have it.
I hope people aren't taking the list literally. As in, 'this is every feature the nx will have, no more, no less.'
I don't think anyone who hasn't actually seen it (and maybe even a lot who actually have) have a 100% understanding or knowledge of everything the system is capable of.
You can put the pieces together and kinda figure out a general understanding of what nx is, but please don't read the rumors as "yup, this is everything, that's it."
OrbitalBeard
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Exactly. I mean, it's entirely possible that studios with dev kits don't even have the full picture when it comes to this device.
Calm Mind
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Every Day without Nintendo NX News https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ph9y1TPhew
Nevermind, don't know why was thinking of any complex thing underneath the buttons, lol. Yeah it's late.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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It was how they worded it, I thought the same thing at first and was trying to wrap my head around that peculiar innovation, haha.
Like, maybe they do in terms of hardware features, but it's possible nintendo is keeping software features close to the chest until release. You never know.
This is something I have been sort of grappling with. When a device is, at least ostensibly, without direct precendence, what do the dev kits have to contain in order to give devs enough access to take advantage of the platform? Do they need everything, or do they just need a realistic target?
I know jack-all about actual game development, so I dunno. But it's a thing I have been thinking about a lot since NX rumors started happening.
To be honest, the only things I believe from the Hardware section is the Eurogamer stuff.
Dark Cloud
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The best time is here yet again- the weekend... 
Depends on what they're trying to push for the system. If at start they just want generic games, then you keep the secret sauce a secret.
If your sales pitch revolves around the secret sauce, you kinda want a lot of games to take advantage of it.
Think Wii remote vs nfc maybe (even though we know ubisoft knew about nfc early on - point is no one used it heavily til amiibo). Whole system revolved around motion but wii u only had nfc as a bonus add-on.
I can't come up with a clear example, since i'm basically making things up. My point is, however, that it's entirely possible people working with the thing don't know everything about it.
I think it has more to do with symmetry when the controllers are detached.
Sounds delicious.
I thought I'd throw my hat into the NX design ring.
The unique features are:
- Textured controllers for better grip
- Unique pinch-activated L & R buttons
- Kickstand
- Swappable faceplates
- Launches in four colors: strawberry, lemon, lime, and blue raspberry
This is what I'm talking about. You even actually remembered speakers!
OrbitalBeard
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I thought I'd throw my hat into the NX design ring.
The unique features are:
- Textured controllers for better grip
- Unique pinch-activated L & R buttons
- Kickstand
- Swappable faceplates
- Launches in four colors: strawberry, lemon, lime, and blue raspberry
Wow. This is hawt.
I thought I'd throw my hat into the NX design ring.
The unique features are:
- Textured controllers for better grip
- Unique pinch-activated L & R buttons
- Kickstand
- Swappable faceplates
- Launches in four colors: strawberry, lemon, lime, and blue raspberry
This is actually really cool. Nice job.
The best time is here yet again- the weekend...
If I get time this weekend, I'll make a video discussion talking about all the reports and rumors that have happened over the week, and maybe field questions from Twitter.
I thought I'd throw my hat into the NX design ring.
The unique features are:
- Textured controllers for better grip
- Unique pinch-activated L & R buttons
- Kickstand
- Swappable faceplates
- Launches in four colors: strawberry, lemon, lime, and blue raspberry
This one is actually pretty good looking.
I thought I'd throw my hat into the NX design ring.
The unique features are:
- Textured controllers for better grip
- Unique pinch-activated L & R buttons
- Kickstand
- Swappable faceplates
- Launches in four colors: strawberry, lemon, lime, and blue raspberry
looks great! But it is still missing the start and select buttons. There is no way that is not going in the final design right?
On the other hand.. We only have two shoulder buttons so anything is possible.
Are you planning on doing just a recap video or an actual discussion such as speculation and overall impressions?
Recap, then to move on to discussion to expand on a few things on my end, and then overall impressions on the device and its potential.
baphomet
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I thought I'd throw my hat into the NX design ring.
The unique features are:
- Textured controllers for better grip
- Unique pinch-activated L & R buttons
- Kickstand
- Swappable faceplates
- Launches in four colors: strawberry, lemon, lime, and blue raspberry
This is probably pretty similar to the final look if I had to guess.
ProtomanNeo
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Nice mock up. However the more I think about it the more I believe default orientation will be portrait.
sounds great I'm looking forward to it! Thank you in advance for your efforts.
I have one question, and one question only. It is a bit of a tough one so I fully understand if you can't answer it but here goes.
From a hardware perspective, do we know all the important details about the NX or is there still more to it?
No need for specifics, just a yes or a no would do.
baphomet
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Default will definitely be horizontal. These games have to translate to TVs seamlessly.
Dr. Buni
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That looks soooo good.I thought I'd throw my hat into the NX design ring.
The unique features are:
- Textured controllers for better grip
- Unique pinch-activated L & R buttons
- Kickstand
- Swappable faceplates
- Launches in four colors: strawberry, lemon, lime, and blue raspberry
Dark Cloud
Member
This is pretty good. No circle pads though lolI thought I'd throw my hat into the NX design ring.
The unique features are:
- Textured controllers for better grip
- Unique pinch-activated L & R buttons
- Kickstand
- Swappable faceplates
- Launches in four colors: strawberry, lemon, lime, and blue raspberry
I probably should have put them in. It slipped my mind.
But honestly, do we really need them anymore? I usually press "A" to start things. Plus you'll probably be able to just tap on the screen.
Thanks everyone for the comments!
It's more about inventory management when playing at home. You could argue that the home button could double as a pause button but many games pause by opening up menus, maps, etc. I think it's still rather important.
maybe you could add one more button per controller? In any case, you really did a fantastic job.
OricWindstar
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By far the most plausible mock up I've seen.I thought I'd throw my hat into the NX design ring.
The unique features are:
- Textured controllers for better grip
- Unique pinch-activated L & R buttons
- Kickstand
- Swappable faceplates
- Launches in four colors: strawberry, lemon, lime, and blue raspberry
I am a fan of offset sticks/pads, but looking at the above mockup, doesn't anyone else see the same problem that I am seeing? When using the right stick/pad, most of your hand would have no stable purchase upon which to rest, and so you would just be manipulating the stick/pad with most of your hand hanging in free space. Unless you formed a weird claw with your right hand in order to grasp the controller itself and still have your thumb on the pad/stick.
Neither of those options sound particularly good.
Neither of those options sound particularly good.
If the NX looked like this I'd buy it day 1I thought I'd throw my hat into the NX design ring.
The unique features are:
- Textured controllers for better grip
- Unique pinch-activated L & R buttons
- Kickstand
- Swappable faceplates
- Launches in four colors: strawberry, lemon, lime, and blue raspberry
It's good.
It gave me one idea though since people were mentioning lack of start/select buttons.
Virtual start/select buttons to save space from putting them on the bezel. (Although that could be an eyesore.)
Real start/select buttons can be put onto the module you attach the controllers for the Pro Controller style.
I wouldn't mind front speakers even though as I mentioned, having a thin bezel could save space length wise and put them on the back.
That's why I thought just only having a thin bezel on the sides where the controllers attach but make them thick on the top or bottom to fit speakers and a camera would make sense but, I don't know if it would look oddly shaped.
I thought I'd throw my hat into the NX design ring.
The unique features are:
- Textured controllers for better grip
- Unique pinch-activated L & R buttons
- Kickstand
- Swappable faceplates
- Launches in four colors: strawberry, lemon, lime, and blue raspberry
Nice job, based on the leaks and rumors this is probably pretty close to what NX is.
Although, I hate the split D pad design. I'd rather real ABXY button and C-Buttons.
nostalgia is real
Dark Cloud
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I think the best option for Nintendo is to include some kind of attachment to when you take the controllers off of the NX you can connect them to this attachment and have full sized standard controller.
Because I'm not going to like sticking these two small controllers together as one, if they can do that of course. They can put some cheap middle piece to make the standard controller a little more wider when the two controllers connect to each other.
Because I'm not going to like sticking these two small controllers together as one, if they can do that of course. They can put some cheap middle piece to make the standard controller a little more wider when the two controllers connect to each other.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Ignore this speculation but maybe the analogs are asymmetric for two-player this
The analog stick will be on the regular side for both players, muhahahahaha.
The analog stick will be on the regular side for both players, muhahahahaha.
I thought I'd throw my hat into the NX design ring.
The unique features are:
- Textured controllers for better grip
- Unique pinch-activated L & R buttons
- Kickstand
- Swappable faceplates
- Launches in four colors: strawberry, lemon, lime, and blue raspberry
This is dope af.
I thought I'd throw my hat into the NX design ring.
The unique features are:
- Textured controllers for better grip
- Unique pinch-activated L & R buttons
- Kickstand
- Swappable faceplates
- Launches in four colors: strawberry, lemon, lime, and blue raspberry
It will be pretty strange if they reveal the damn thing and it looks exactly like this
No ZL/ZR or Start/Select?I thought I'd throw my hat into the NX design ring.
The unique features are:
- Textured controllers for better grip
- Unique pinch-activated L & R buttons
- Kickstand
- Swappable faceplates
- Launches in four colors: strawberry, lemon, lime, and blue raspberry
Otherwise, it looks great.
James Scott
Banned
It's not in the post. It'll likely have it, but we don't know yet
I thought I'd throw my hat into the NX design ring.
The unique features are:
- Textured controllers for better grip
- Unique pinch-activated L & R buttons
- Kickstand
- Swappable faceplates
- Launches in four colors: strawberry, lemon, lime, and blue raspberry
Good mockup.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Really good, but I'd rename the L and R buttons on the left to L and ZL, with the right ones being R and ZR, and then add start and select buttons.I thought I'd throw my hat into the NX design ring.
The unique features are:
- Textured controllers for better grip
- Unique pinch-activated L & R buttons
- Kickstand
- Swappable faceplates
- Launches in four colors: strawberry, lemon, lime, and blue raspberry
Calm Mind
Member
I thought I'd throw my hat into the NX design ring.
The unique features are:
- Textured controllers for better grip
- Unique pinch-activated L & R buttons
- Kickstand
- Swappable faceplates
- Launches in four colors: strawberry, lemon, lime, and blue raspberry
The closest I've seen to a Nintendo-like design. The kickstand is a nice touch.
Refreshment.01
Member
This works as a good compendium of the recent rumors and is actually nice looking. There's some design issues one can quickly notice. Would be nice if you could explain further in case im missing something obvious:I thought I'd throw my hat into the NX design ring.
The unique features are:
- Textured controllers for better grip
- Unique pinch-activated L & R buttons
- Kickstand
- Swappable faceplates
- Launches in four colors: strawberry, lemon, lime, and blue raspberry
The ineteresting thing to see here revolves around the shoulder button implementation.
- 1. The Unqiue pinch activated L & R. From it's nomenclature and looking at the drawing, it means the user needs to use the index and thumb to operate them. This takes away most of the functionality of shoulder or trigger buttons, wich is working independently and at the same time with thumb operated face buttons.
- 2. Although one fully undertands that the shoulders are setup like that due to limited space and for the sake of NES style for multiplayer setup, the way the R & L are operated in the mock up it's the least efficient and dextrous way the index or middle finger can move in the positions the user would operate the controller. So to compensate, R & L would need to offer minimal resistance. Which is ok, but i think you could only get away with that when operating the controller in the vertical position (Wii Remote style). Moving on in this sense...
- 3. The shoulders are both in the top and botton to accomodate R and L use when the controllers are detached and used in the NES style mode. It sounds good in theory. However, when holding the controllers in that style the middle and index fingers go away from the corners. So to actually push the pinch R & L, the user needs to reposition both the thumb and middle finger.
You are right, but i think there's more to it that you are not considering.Ignore this speculation but maybe the analogs are asymmetric for two-player this
The analog stick will be on the regular side for both players, muhahahahaha.
It would work for very limited type of games. The reason 2 player mode works in Wii U Party is because those are top down games with a fixed perspective that can be displayed in portrait mode. For those the setup with the offset sticks is perfect as you point out.
But once you try more typical games in Landscape mode, with scrolling scenes or 3D dynamic cameras the setup becomes limiting. The way to solve this would be to split the screen in the middle.
However, splitting the screen creates a new downside. The screen area for each player becomes half. Considering that the confortable way to operate the game with the above setup is around the waist level (a bit up maybe) or using a table, and you could run with potential visibility problems due to screen operating distance.
What do you think?
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