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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock
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Fourth Storm
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Just saw Emily's wording (haven't had much time to catch up the past 2 days). Sounds like the camera/mic might be in the dock? Or one for each controller...but that's crazy talk and maybe counts as part of the "portable device" regardless.
Or there might be a sensor bar. I'm all for optical IR sensors, so bring it!
I don't care as long as it feels good. Gamecube controller has a great feel and so does the Wii U Pro. 3DS XL, otoh, feels awful, at least to me. Alot depends on button spacing and the shape of these snap-on controllers.
Or there might be a sensor bar. I'm all for optical IR sensors, so bring it!
I don't care as long as it feels good. Gamecube controller has a great feel and so does the Wii U Pro. 3DS XL, otoh, feels awful, at least to me. Alot depends on button spacing and the shape of these snap-on controllers.
Dark Cloud
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Interesting the no Twitch part.
Uh... no...? Unless I missed something...
Dark Cloud
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It was supposed to be Nintendos mobile games would come to NX. Pokemon Go isn't their game.
Nintendo's mobile games are, Pokemon GO or not, and the only one to market at current... uses a camera. >.>
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Fourth Storm
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Cool, thanks for update. I'm thinking that the dock is not really a great place to put a camera either unless the NX while docked is a really unobtrusive setup. Typically, one needs a camera to be fairly versatile and maneuverable in order to get the best image.
Milly Osworth
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Whats even going on in this thread now.
Steve Youngblood
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Even if we did consider it a Nintendo game it's hard for me to imagine what the point would be. Cellular GPS tracking isn't necessarily a requisite for Go, but not having it makes the game largely pointless in my opinion.
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What makes you say that (the part about mobile games being on NX)? All I remember is WSJ saying they would be "compatible" with NX, which could just mean that they interact in some way via My Nintendo. The wording is unfortunately vague. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up on NX (I mean, especially if it has a 6.2" 720p screen with multitouch), but I don't think we've heard anything to say they will be or would be on the system.
That's because your phone and laptop are charged, and I can understand if people were speculating over the NX speedsteping (am I using the term correctly?) while charged. But no, the speculation was the console will receive extra power from the dock itself. That part sounded and still sounds like wishful thinking. I hope I'm wrong cause it would be awesome if true.
James Scott
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I'm fairly certain this isn't the case. I've mentioned it a couple times but my guess is that the post that lead many people to believe this actually was in reference to something else.
The NX being compatible with Nintendo's mobile games doesn't make much sense. You could port those to Wii U no problem but it wouldn't be a feature to stress.
Mobile games being compatible with NX likely means that MyNintendo data from those games should be usable on NX apps/games. Example: Miitomo clothes transfers over to MiiMaker; Animal Crossing Mobile's Bells and furniture gained transfer over to AC NX.
Mobile games require constant internet connectivity to properly function, I don't see them porting all of their mobile software over
I thought about that too after I had thought that they are using a thin bezel to put speakers in the back along with a camera.
However, since it still says no camera built into the device...
Either it's getting added later as I said in the back to keep a thin bezel and stick a camera and mic into the detachable controllers.
Or they would have to be in the dock although I wouldn't find it practical because the closest thing in my hands would be the NX not the dock when in use.
I'm still trying to think if there's some other kind of idea here. I should check those IR camera patents.
Dark Cloud
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Ahh it did say "compatible" with NX games. My bad.
Dark Cloud
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I don't get the points against the camera? Isn't a camera a social feature? Don't casuals like using their cameras for pictures and Snap Chat or other apps? Its not like it cost a lot of money like some have said. Just throw it in there to have another enticing feature.
If they want to appeal to them then it would make sense to put it in. It should look better than the 3DS camera lol.
If they want to appeal to them then it would make sense to put it in. It should look better than the 3DS camera lol.
Skittzo0413
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It would certainly be interesting if one camera was built into each controller portion... two different camera angles could lead to some interesting applications.
Whatever the case, I expect a camera somewhere on the portable device (screen portion or controls) for the final product. It would be very strange if it never makes it.
Whatever the case, I expect a camera somewhere on the portable device (screen portion or controls) for the final product. It would be very strange if it never makes it.
Or maybe, they will copy the PS4 PlayStation Camera and put in a sensor bar as Fourth Storm said along with a camera and microphone in it for use to stream yourself in Twitch.
(This is from having seen that pic where Nintendo employees actually look at their competitors consoles now where a ps4 and Xbox one was spotted.)
Yeah the quote did say:
It's unclear whether they mean Nintendo smartphone games will be on NX or communicate with NX in some way or maybe simply have the ability to gain MyNintendo points on smartphone that can be used on/for NX games.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Cameras to me are useless on Nintendo products but I think their omission comes across as cheap more than many just NEED them.
Oh maybe.
I'm mainly referring to it in terms of being a handheld. I know tons of kids who used the camera like crazy on their DS/3DS. Probably not a big deal anymore thanks to smartphones.
I'm strictly talking about putting a camera on the handheld to be used for camera purposes, like the 3DS. No one is going to pay extra for one.
Now if the camera is a part of some other piece (controller) or if it's used in some other way (as you say, intended for streamers), then sure, why not.
Yeah, compatible is super ambiguous.
In game console terms it's usually referred to being able to 'run' the games (as in backwards compatible), but it could be used to mean 'interface with' as well.
James Scott
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I don't think anyone is going to snap chat on their NX.
Not sure why they wouldn't include a camera or what she means here, though.
I imagine it's not too expensive to have at least one.
I don't think anyone is going to snap chat on their NX.
Not sure why they wouldn't include a camera or what she means here, though.
I imagine it's not too expensive to have at least one.
Considering the resolution on nintendo system cameras maybe it's a blessing
I don't want that quote killing my prediction that Nintendo would get major third party support from mobile game developers.
I know they had Puzzle and Dragons and, Monster Strike on the 3DS and a couple of others changed for the 3DS but they weren't straight ports and, it took until the New 3DS to get Unity engine on it.
That's why when I see that this NX has detachable controls, it's easy to see NX being better suited for mobile games seeing as it has a Multi-touch Capacitive Touch Screen and Unity and Unreal Engine 4 Support. It makes it sound like it would be very easy to do straight ports of mobile games instead of having to adjust for a system like the 3DS which had 2 screens and no Multi-touch.
Dark Cloud
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Do you think the detachable controllers would be able to work to play Nintendo games on your phone?
James Scott
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IIRC, they're tailoring games for the mobile platform so I wouldn't think so. If it needs to use a controller then it'll probably not be on mobile
??? No. Even if there was that wireless streaming tech, it needs the components for that inside a competitor's phone.
(This is assuming you are streaming from the NX to a random phone.)
Dark Cloud
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What? I was saying to play their Fire Emblem or Animal Crossing game coming to mobile phones...
And no I'm not saying you NEED these controllers to play those games, but there would be an option to use the controllers to play this next Fire Emblem game coming to mobile. I just don't know if it would work with Bluetooth or there's more tech involved.
Maybe, it means they would have to come up with extra control schemes for games that were built for smartphones. I don't know if they would do that.
It's much simpler just removing the detachable controllers to use the touchscreen to play mobile games.
LordOfChaos
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The crossover risk alone explains it really, I think it was either Iwata or Miyamoto that described the period between consoles as the riskiest part and their desire to smooth that out.
I'm sure they'll go with the "third pillar" crap until the NX has enough install base to ditch older hardware.
I'm hoping I was overly underoptimistic, lol.
it partly depends what it is though. Just a handheld with HDMI out as a 3DS replacement, then the lower end. Their single, unified development target for every bit of Nintendo production that used to be split in two? A bit higher.
Maybe I'll revise to 250 as an upper end, but I don't want to hope for too much and be let down again by Nintendo.
i like that, speely. original & it flows nicely.
Sorceror12
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Amazingly enough the device doesn't even have nfc capabilities
I wonder if the NX will run a modified version of android on it. It's basically a tablet with plug in controllers and a tv out. Would be nice to also be able to use it as an android tablet with all the apps. Devs could
Update their existing games with button controls as well and will be fully compatible with Nintendo mobile games.
Update their existing games with button controls as well and will be fully compatible with Nintendo mobile games.
Unless there's a third party collaboration going on, third parties don't have amiibos to use.
Hence why I wonder if Nintendo have dev kits different to those of third parties.
lwilliams3
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Great post!!
One thing, though:
- Cooling is still a little noisy
Is Emily referring to the dev kit (with X1s) or is she talking about the final hardware that should be using Pascal chips?
It's not.
Thanks! I would love to see something playful like this instead of something either left-field goofy or "modern cool." Would be nice to have a Nintendo console with the same kind of naming conventions used back when their consoles used cartridges
I can't remember which rumor it was, but someone alluded to the NX using a custom OS. Whether that means "Android-based but heavily modified" or "purely custom" is anyone's guess. If I were a betting person, I would put my money on 100% custom.
It comes down to the same thing. Let's say the pascal chip can reach 700gf when running full speed. But it would burn through the battery in less than an hour, so Nintendo has it running at much lower speeds when portable, and it only reaches 250gf like that. Docking it, negates battery concern so it can run at full speed.
How is this different from a more conservative GPU being inside the device, reaching 250gf, and a second GPU, the secret sauce, is inside the dock, adding up to a total of 700gf. What's the difference for you as a gamer?
Thanks! I would love to see something playful like this instead of something either left-field goofy or "modern cool." Would be nice to have a Nintendo console with the same kind of naming conventions used back when their consoles used cartridges
I can't remember which rumor it was, but someone alluded to the NX using a custom OS. Whether that means "Android-based but heavily modified" or "purely custom" is anyone's guess. If I were a betting person, I would put my money on 100% custom.
Yeah I remember something like that as well. I think it would make sense as it would be very flexible gaming device which functions as a tablet as well. They could release different versions of it which reminds me of iwatas quotes about a "family of devices". Yearly upgrades would make a lot of sense.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Really dont make sense... Kimishimi said amiibo will be used with NX. Let alone botw have amiibo functionality.
lwilliams3
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It wasn't mentioned at all afaik, but I believe we can be certain that it does support NFC in one way or the other.
Nintendo's mobile games supposedly are, & Pokémon GO isn't part of the Nintendo-DeNA mobile game partnership.
James Scott
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It likely will. Can't see NX not having amiibo support
Here's my take on that mobile bit:
It's not like 'supports amiibo' is a visible feature someone could tell just by LOOKING at the darn thing.
It will 100% have amiibo support since it 100% plays breath of the wild.
Stick under the buttons? What does rhis mean?
Offset sticks/pads, like the xbox as opposed to the playstation.
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