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[Fourth Storm]

I think the secret to making a good enough Dpad that can also function as 4 individual facebuttons, is the angle in which the button input gets pressed down. Especially for the Dpad behaviour.

Because even though these 4 inputs need to be "detached" from one and other, when used as buttons (in order to push multiple buttons simultaniously), the feeling of pressing a Dpad input, is completely different. Because your thumb is always moving from the inside out. See my drawing:

This way, when used as a Dpad, it will still behave more like a Dpad, because it will "rock" according to the same angle as a regular Dpad.

Good point. I think the way Nintendo's dpads have been made lately (from the DS Lite on pretty much) with a somewhat softer feel to them should work nicely for what they intend. The shape and texture of the directional inputs themselves should help distinguish them from round face buttons. Playing around w/ the dpads on the Gamepad, Wii Remote, and Pro Controller just now, they're almost serviceable as buttons as is. They're not like Nintendo's old school dpads that used to burn a hole in my thumb.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Time to lock this up again until actual news 🤐

Asking for locks brings attention to a thread being locked, that's not good.
However, locks just lead to more imminent NX rumor threads so nothing will stop this train.

 

[Calm Mind]

This is a weird stance I've been seeing. Almost as we didn't have a year where almost everything Nintendo leaked ahead of time.

This forum was fooled into believing and convinced the same media and several known insiders that this was real for nearly a week.

I'm not saying the rumors or reports don't have some semblance of truth to them but I'm not about to ignore common sense and actual quotes from Nintendo executives and employees in spite of that.

 

[KAL2006]

Some ideas of games they can release

Ports
Mario Maker - the twist in this one it has Multiplayer using detachable controllers as NES controllers. Fully backwards compatible with Wii U uploaded levels as well as being able to transfer 3DS created levels

Super Smash Bros - Port with all the DLC incuded

Splatoon - Port with all the DLC included however there will be some new stuff.

Pokemon Sun/Moon - special feature in the NX version, due to the large capacity of the cartridge is the games for the first time will allow you to travel between 3 regions though a airport. Yes X/Y and Ruby/Saphire continents will be additional post game feature.



Multiplatform games
Zelda Breath of the Wind - The premier launch game

Tekken 7

Dragon Quest XI

Dynasty Warriors

Just Dance



New games
AmiiBo World - basically a Skylanders rip off. Nintendo will be double downing in Amiibos. This will be the premier AmiiBo game

Pikmin 4 - This game will have multiple control schemes. Play in the tablet with no buttons. Or play with attached controls or play with the motion pointer controls detached.

Metroid - The Metroid First Person game everyone has been waiting for. The Metroidvania Gameplay with a great soundtrack and great visuals with the feeling of isolation. It will also feature a Multiplayer mode that rivals Halo. Can either player with dual analogs or pointer controls.

Monster Hunter V

Beyond Good and Evil 2

Kid Icarus 2

3D Super Mario - Successor to Galaxy and 64 series

F Zero - The franchise returns. Again multiple control schemes. Play with tablet gyro controls. Or traditional analog controls from the controller. Also local multiplayer with detached controllers.

 

[Hermii]

I appreciate his perspective at least. He was one of the only people saying NX would be weaker than Xbone when Emily reported the "closer to xbone than ps4" comment.

At that time, most of us still thought NX was an home console.

 

[ozfunghi]

Good point. I think the way Nintendo's dpads have been made lately (from the DS Lite on pretty much) with a somewhat softer feel to them should work nicely for what they intend. The shape and texture of the directional inputs themselves should help distinguish them from round face buttons. Playing around w/ the dpads on the Gamepad, Wii Remote, and Pro Controller just now, they're almost serviceable as buttons as is. They're not like Nintendo's old school dpads that used to burn a hole in my thumb.

But on a Dpad, you never have to (neither can you) press two opposing directions at the same time. When you use them as buttons, you have to be able to press two opposing buttons at the same time.

 

[RavageDark]

This forum was fooled into believing and convinced the same media and several known insiders that this was real for nearly a week.

I'm not saying the rumors or reports don't have some semblance of truth to them but I'm not about to ignore common sense and actual quotes from Nintendo executives and employees in spite of that.

That... that is a good point.

 

[Skittzo0413]

This forum was fooled into believing and convinced the same media and several known insiders that this was real for nearly a week.

I'm not saying the rumors or reports don't have some semblance of truth to them but I'm not about to ignore common sense and actual quotes from Nintendo executives and employees in spite of that.

Unless I'm mistaken those websites reported on the image but none of them were able to confirm it was legitamite. Rather they all posted things like "Could this be the NX controller?" which really is not the same as the reports coming out now where they confirm these details with their sources.

 

[KingSnake]

I don't either, but if I was Nintendo I'd be paying whatever I needed to for a Madden 18 for NX. A full-fledged console version that you can play on the go would be something I think could be a system-seller.

Yeah, I think it's a missed opportunity not to have some of the very popular sports games on NX. The USP of getting to play the latest Fifa on the go could be a strong onw in my opinion.

I wish. Or that online was the focus, but knowing Nintendo they will focus far too much on local play.

Some of best sellers on Wii U are mainly online games: MK8, SSB4 and Splatoon. I don't think Nintendo will neglect this aspect.

 

[synce]

A portable that's nearly a foot wide? That has to be a joke.

 

[Fourth Storm]

But on a Dpad, you never have to (neither can you) press two opposing directions. When you use them as buttons, you have to be able to press two opposing buttons.

True, but I can't think of any games that require B/X or A/Y pressed simultaneously. Usually, games will have you press together buttons that are next to each other. And actually, I can think of quite a few times where I meant to press down and pressed down right on accident or something of that like. Theoretically, separating the dpad could help reduce this occurrence somewhat.

 

[Father_Brain]

Are you implying that the WSJ, EG, and Let's Play Video Games are just leeching from each other for clicks?

When sites reported on Neo and Scorpio ahead of the reveal, people trusted those reports, but now some of those very same sites are doubted when it comes to Nintendo. I don't understand how this line of logic works.

Because it's about what these outlets are reporting not matching the Nintendo Corebox fantasy these people had in their heads, not about facts or logic. Case in point:

This forum was fooled into believing and convinced the same media and several known insiders that this was real for nearly a week.

Citation needed. Which media reported that this controller was real?

 

[Dark Cloud]

That's what I'm thinking, because the rumors are practically saying that the NX is the Wii U 2.0.

It is funny at this point only Emily and LPVG are the only ones continuing and everybody else is so quiet for some reason. Where's IGN? Kotaku? Gamespot? What happened to all of these other big websites sources? But let's not turn this topic into who is right and who is wrong. I won't speak on this again.

Let's just wait and see. We're almost to the reveal of the NX.

I wanted to add I'm fine with the hybrid and I pretty much believe what Emily says.

 

[MoonFrog]

This forum was fooled into believing and convinced the same media and several known insiders that this was real for nearly a week.

I'm not saying the rumors or reports don't have some semblance of truth to them but I'm not about to ignore common sense and actual quotes from Nintendo executives and employees in spite of that.

Did WSJ, Eurogamer, Emily Rogers support that fake? I genuinely don't know. I know some GAF insiders did who have since claimed to have been in the know on the stuff leaking now, which is a little eyebrow raising, but did our sources now believe this?

I trust WSJ and Eurogamer atm, moreover, as has been pointed out there is hybrid-like talk in WSJ content from long ago that we used to look askance at. Emily Rogers is a bit dubious, with several misses this past year and she tends to hedge everything a lot with 'has some truth,' but she is corroborating pretty good sources.

 

[MuchoMalo]

I'm not sure why the bolded is so obvious, especially considering you posted in the WSJ thread saying that we might know Nintendo's plans by this Tuesday. That was just a couple days ago, what has changed?

I frankly don't think a direct is off the table yet. Just because 10do's rumor is a hoax, doesn't mean Nintendo is any less likely to say something on Tuesday (or any other day, for that matter).

I mean for all these years Nintendo has been making their big announcements literally within days of big Sony/Microsoft conferences at E3. I don't see why they'd let the other companies dictate what they do to such a degree.

I'm still expecting it this year, considering Nintendo of Canada said rather explicitly that they'd reveal it this fall, and Emily has put the wet blanket on my worries of a delay. For the time being, at least.



Yes it was.

But on the bright side, I'm sure whatever joke video they got planned will be absolutely hilarious.

Lmao you're too hilarious. Are you doing this on purpose? You just told him you don't know how he came to that conclusion and then you turn around and come to a conclusion which has me questioning you how you came to that conclusion?!

It seems that I have a nasty tendency to say thing differently than I actually mean them. I should work on that.

All the more reason to question them. They are not exactly known for their journalism skills but only their ability to jump on whatever is trending atm and repost for clicks. I don't trust any of the information that has pervaded these threads and that goes double for the supposed leakers or Bish approved GAF members. Everything here is conjecture until Nintendo makes it official regardless of how many threads, reports or Twitter DM's they have on the contrary.

Did WSJ, Eurogamer, Emily Rogers support that fake? I genuinely don't know. I know some GAF insiders did who have since claimed to have been in the know on the stuff leaking now, which is a little eyebrow raising, but did our sources now believe this?

I trust WSJ and Eurogamer atm, moreover, as has been pointed out there is hybrid-like talk in WSJ content from long ago that we used to look askance at. Emily Rogers is a bit dubious, with several misses this past year and she tends to hedge everything a lot with 'has some truth.'

We had one person from one site say in a podcast that he'd heard that NX will have no face buttons. However, that would match the description of NX without the controllers attached, would it not?

 

[Jedi2016]

Citation needed. Which media reported that this controller was real?

It was pretty much all of them. Unlike other fakes (that are usually Photoshops or CGI), this one was actually a real physical object, which had everybody really, really thinking hard about whether it was legit. And there were a few purported "inside sources" that "confirmed" that it was real. I don't think any of the news sites came out and said flat out that it was legit, but they all reported on it as a "leaked photo" of the controller.

I thought it was pretty cool myself.

But regarding the real NX, it's turning into one of Nintendo's worst held secrets. By the time they officially announce it, we'll probably know pretty much everything. Hell, about the only thing we don't know right now is what it actually looks like and what it's called, and I'm sure it's just a matter of time before some actual photos of the real thing slip out into the wild.

 

[MoonFrog]

That's what I'm thinking, because the rumors are practically saying that the NX is the Wii U 2.0.

Why wouldn't it be Wii U 2.0? Wii U had tablet controller and off-TV play largely to get Japanese consumers to think a home console could be family friendly again (read: can share TV).

Nintendo still wants to do that. Except now, they can also succeed in Japan with NX even if that doesn't happen, because the device can now serve as a handheld with true portability. Hybrid makes the Wii U dream both more feasible and lowers the risk that it fails.

 

[Peterc]

This forum was fooled into believing and convinced the same media and several known insiders that this was real for nearly a week.

I'm not saying the rumors or reports don't have some semblance of truth to them but I'm not about to ignore common sense and actual quotes from Nintendo executives and employees in spite of that.

What was the source again?

It depends on the weight of the source

Emily, EG , IGN are all more trustable sources compared to the one you posted

 

[MuchoMalo]

What was the source again?

Reddit.

 

[RavageDark]

It is funny at this point only Emily and LPVG are the only ones continuing and everybody else is so quiet for some reason. Where's IGN? Kotaku? Gamespot? What happened to all of these other big websites sources? But let's not turn this topic into who is right and who is wrong. I won't speak on this again.

Let's just wait and see. We're almost to the reveal of the NX.

I wanted to add I'm fine with the hybrid and I pretty much believe what Emily says.

I could very well be wrong. And I agree with that bolded part.

 

[RavageDark]

Why wouldn't it be Wii U 2.0? Wii U had tablet controller and off-TV play largely to get Japanese consumers to think a home console could be family friendly again (read: can share TV).

Nintendo still wants to do that. Except now, they can also succeed in Japan with NX even if that doesn't happen, because the device can now serve as a handheld with true portability. Hybrid makes the Wii U dream both more feasible and lowers the risk that it fails.

Because Nintendo has said that it won't be a successor to the Wii U.

(I really need to remember to multi-quote)

 

[Possumowner]

This is it people,this new week we will have a snippet of real news...I can feel it in me bones

 

[Father_Brain]

It was pretty much all of them. Unlike other fakes (that are usually Photoshops or CGI), this one was actually a real physical object, which had everybody really, really thinking hard about whether it was legit. And there were a few purported "inside sources" that "confirmed" that it was real. I don't think any of the news sites came out and said flat out that it was legit, but they all reported on it as a "leaked photo" of the controller.

To be clear, they reported it as a *rumored* leak of the controller.

Reporting on the existence of a rumor that turns out to be false (which did happen) is not the same thing as "verifying" said false rumor with one's own sources (which did not, and which is why attempts to use this to undermine the credibility of NX hybrid reports are disingenuous at best).

 

[Father_Brain]

It is funny at this point only Emily and LPVG are the only ones continuing and everybody else is so quiet for some reason. Where's IGN? Kotaku? Gamespot? What happened to all of these other big websites sources? But let's not turn this topic into who is right and who is wrong. I won't speak on this again.

Let's just wait and see. We're almost to the reveal of the NX.

I wanted to add I'm fine with the hybrid and I pretty much believe what Emily says.

Yeah, it's not like the Wall Street Journal published a new article a few days ago or anything!

 

[AquaWateria]

Man everyone is going nuts over NX rumors. Seriously calm yourselves lol. Whether or not the rumors are exact or not, we shouldn't go crazy over a hardware that hasn't been revealed yet.

I sincerely hope for the best for the poor souls that finally see the NX because either way its going to be nuts.

 

[Vena]

It is funny at this point only Emily and LPVG are the only ones continuing and everybody else is so quiet for some reason. Where's IGN? Kotaku? Gamespot? What happened to all of these other big websites sources? But let's not turn this topic into who is right and who is wrong. I won't speak on this again.

Let's just wait and see. We're almost to the reveal of the NX.

I wanted to add I'm fine with the hybrid and I pretty much believe what Emily says.

Controlled leaks. How do they work?

I was joking before but the fact that so few outlets have access to information they're willing to write up articles over, really makes me think the leak is being aimed from behind the scenes to put it into smaller mouths and let it spread more diffusely.

If I were a major leaker, I'd have gone to Kotaku or IGN with a huge scoop. Look at the Neo leak from way back, or even now how the Neo is leaking in its entirety from Foxconn.

That or everyone is piss scared for their lives from the Ninjas, and these minor (and seemingly rather dated) leaks are all any one is willing to give. A lot of the info we're getting even now still feels like its from the same source and timeframe as the eurogamer leak which was with old dev kits.

Nate's own source is probably one of the few "new info/new kit" sources since the Euro leak, or is someone further behind the scenes/deep in the trenches than some random dev.

 

[Skittzo0413]

I'm really terrible at making mockups, but I've been trying to picture one where the controllers aren't exactly rectangular, where they have more of a pro controller-like grip on the sides and diagonal offsets between the sticks and the buttons/dpad.

Like a pro controller cut in half pretty much, but a bit thinner so it can be supported by the user's palm under the controller.

 

[foppy79]

I sincerely hope for the best for the poor souls that finally see the NX because either way its going to be nuts.

When the announcement date is announced this forum will go alight

 

[AquaWateria]

When the announcement date is announced this forum will go alight

More like posters spamming gifs and memes.

 

[Speely]

More like posters spamming gifs and memes.

I am just going to flop convulsively all over my keyboard for a full hour. Sorry in advance for double posts.

 

[MoonFrog]

Because Nintendo has said that it won't be a successor to the Wii U.

(I really need to remember to multi-quote)

And...? It's not in the sense that it is not a straight home console. Moreover, the changes it makes to the Wii U idea are completely transformative as I said in the previous post.

Also, that's third pillar talk. Don't put too much into it.

In general though, it pays to remember that for Iwata's entire tenure the western corebox fanbase that Nintendo had with N64 has been the least of Nintendo's concern. When thinking about what Nintendo will do, think Japan, children, wider audience, etc. first. Derivatively, think handheld first. If you think Nintendo is going to suddenly put people who want the Nintendo PS4 first, you are setting yourself up for disappointment. Moreover, they'd be dumb to do so with the position they've put themselves in.

 

[RavageDark]

And...? It's not in the sense that it is not a straight home console. Moreover, the changes it makes to the Wii U idea are completely transformative as I said in the previous post.

Also, that's third pillar talk. Don't put too much into it.

In general though, it pays to remember that for Iwata's entire tenure the western corebox fanbase that Nintendo had with N64 has been the least of Nintendo's concern. When thinking about what Nintendo will do, think Japan, children, wider audience, etc. first. Derivatively, think handheld first. If you think Nintendo is going to suddenly put people who want the Nintendo PS4 first, you are setting yourself up for disappointment. Moreover, they'd be dumb to do so with the position they've put themselves in.

But it would be a sucessor, in the sense that it is, for all intents and purposes, the Wii U Gamepad that plugs into a TV set and has breakable controllers.

 

[Pittree]

I am still working on the final mockup and I added some suggestions mentioned here like two more buttons on the upper part, longer triggers and some other features. I am posting it one last time in order to get final suggestions before making it final and wait for the reveal wich hopefully it is going to happen soon.

 

[Calm Mind]

Are you implying that the WSJ, EG, and Let's Play Video Games are just leeching from each other for clicks?

When sites reported on Neo and Scorpio ahead of the reveal, people trusted those reports, but now some of those very same sites are doubted when it comes to Nintendo. I don't understand how this line of logic works.

What part of clicks and ad revenue don't you understand? I'm pretty sure these threads on NeoGAF are responsible for their fair share of revenue to the site. Only when they have been exhausted do they get closed until the next batch of leaks, rumors and reports pop up that renew interest and thus more clicks and revenue. It's an endless cycle.

Off-topic: Why are you protecting your sources if they are willingly breaking laws?

 

[Dystify]

This forum was fooled into believing and convinced the same media and several known insiders that this was real for nearly a week.

I'm not saying the rumors or reports don't have some semblance of truth to them but I'm not about to ignore common sense and actual quotes from Nintendo executives and employees in spite of that.

This fake came out a while before any of the current rumors came to light. I doubt sites like EG reported them as facts. It's a totally different situation to when they reported the currently known leaks.

I'm not blindly believing the leaks we currently have, but the sites who reported them (EG, WSJ, Emily Rogers, LPVG) would lose a lot of credibility if they end up being wrong or if it turns out they lied. It's why I choose to put some faith into them, but I wouldn't be disappointed if they're wrong either.

Asking for locks brings attention to a thread being locked, that's not good.
However, locks just lead to more imminent NX rumor threads so nothing will stop this train.

Oh I'm sure this topic can last until Tuesday.

 

[MoonFrog]

But it would be a sucessor, in the sense that it is, for all intents and purposes, the Wii U Gamepad that plugs into a TV set and has breakable controllers.

Read my responses again. I've given you both why it can succeed where Wii U failed, why it can afford to fail where Wii U failed. I've given you why that quote has little worth. It is just new platform speak; moreover being a hybrid is a bit more than just a Wii U Gamepad that can plug into the TV. Wii U Gamepad can't go on a train with you without the console.

Edit:
I'll post this again:

When hybrid was off the table, shared library could not be used as a consumer side 'gimmick.' People aren't going to buy their first NX device because if they buy another they can play the same software on both. This makes me think about the advantage of a bundle and simultaneous release of both form factors, but a bundle would probably be too expensive, if the devices were designed to be stand-alone with the home console spec'd close to or above PS4.

Yes, shared library alone does change things on the production side by unifying development, and through this lessening the instance of droughts, which in turn would make the product more appealing to consumers. But it provides no hardware hook, which, going up against smart phones on one side and PS4/XBone on the other would not be a good thing to lack.

As such, I think hybrid is the best solution, if Nintendo can pull it off at a reasonable price. It sets the hardware apart from both phones and home consoles. It ensures the shared library for non-Nintendo software. So a hardware hook and a software hook. It is the most elegant solution to the issues Nintendo faces, provided it still cares about both audiences.

Moreover, leading handheld is leading from their relative position of strength. I think hybrid has always made the most sense but we thought it was off the table. Handheld only made the next most sense, but the rumors pointed home console. I think that is the only reason home console talk made sense at all.

Moreover, if it isn't clear, where is Nintendo likely to get third party support? Japan. So lead handheld.
Where does Nintendo have the healthiest market? Japanese handheld market. So lead handheld.
Where does Nintendo have awful third party relations? On home console. So lead handheld.
Where is Nintendo weakest? On home console, in the west. So lead handheld.

Thus, shared library falls into 'get handheld support on home console,' and shared library is best on hybrid device. Hybrid device that isn't over-expensive and power-inefficient dictates design around handheld side first, which is exactly what rumors suggest.

...

So, hybrid makes sense. Hybrid of the suggested specs makes sense. The quote has little to no weight. Even if it did, it is entirely consistent with NX being a hybrid. Etc.

Also, if you want to run on quotes, why not just use the Iwata suggestions that it is not a hybrid? Or that it'll have multiple form factors? I think it's clear that those are from early planning stages though and the hybrid breakthrough happened later.

 

[NateDrake]

What part of clicks and ad revenue don't you understand? I'm pretty sure these threads on NeoGAF are responsible for their fair share of revenue to the site. Only when they have been exhausted do they get closed until the next batch of leaks, rumors and reports pop up that renew interest and thus more clicks and revenue. It's an endless cycle.

Off-topic: Why are you protecting your sources if they are willingly breaking laws?

What nonsense are you speaking? You accuse sites of reporting information solely for clicks and ad revenue - thus implying their information to be false or possibly leeched from other sites. If you don't want to believe the outlet or individuals sharing information then don't.

I swear the rumors and talk about NX has driven the community to a point of some sort of odd insanity. People believe reports from WSJ/EG and other outlets about Neo and Scorpio (some even thought a new Vita was happening because of a GAF post), but these same outlets backed by several additional sites are liars because Nintendo. Then we have condescending jackasses on Twitter saying to use common sense, but they lack the ability to use common sense themselves.

 

[Deleted member 10571]

One of Nintendos biggest patents still is their perfect D-Pad. I can't see them changing it to some kind of Sony button/pad hybrid at all.

And when I say "I can't" I really mean "I don't wanna"

 

[Skittzo0413]

What part of clicks and ad revenue don't you understand? I'm pretty sure these threads on NeoGAF are responsible for their fair share of revenue to the site. Only when they have been exhausted do they get closed until the next batch of leaks, rumors and reports pop up that renew interest and thus more clicks and revenue. It's an endless cycle.

Off-topic: Why are you protecting your sources if they are willingly breaking laws?

Because outing your sources makes it very hard for you to actually get insiders to trust you ever again. See Trev/SMD.

Even though these leaks and outlets are all very trustworthy, and it would be absolutely insane (to me) if they were 100% wrong, discussing their credibility is a fast way to get these threads locked. I would love to have some more serious discussion about the shape of the device and how it can actually be designed ergonomically such that the controls can be used the same way whether attached or detached. I really think there is quite a bit we can still figure out based on the rumored layout.

Edit:

One of Nintendos biggest patents still is their perfect D-Pad. I can't see them changing it to some kind of Sony button/pad hybrid at all.

And when I say "I can't" I really mean "I don't wanna"

That patent expired 11 years ago. Why hasn't Sony come out with that same design since 2005, when it has been perfectly legal for them to do so?

 

[skypunch]

I am still working on the final mockup and I added some suggestions mentioned here like two more buttons on the upper part, longer triggers and some other features. I am posting it one last time in order to get final suggestions before making it final and wait for the reveal wich hopefully it is going to happen soon.

That looks amazing. I hope this is close to what the NX looks like.

 

[Dystify]

One of Nintendos biggest patents still is their perfect D-Pad. I can't see them changing it to some kind of Sony button/pad hybrid at all.

And when I say "I can't" I really mean "I don't wanna"

Nintendo's ABXY buttons are arguably also quite iconic and they did change them on Gamecube. I'm sure if Nintendo changes their d-pad they have a good reason to do so. I doubt they'd make their controller worse on purpose.

Also, I don't think the d-pad will be gone 100%. There will still be controllers that have the traditional d-pad. I'd bet controllers from Wii U and Wii still work on NX.

 

[Sadist]

Knowing Nintendo, they will definitely release a NX branded classic controller.

 

[blu]

What part of clicks and ad revenue don't you understand? I'm pretty sure these threads on NeoGAF are responsible for their fair share of revenue to the site. Only when they have been exhausted do they get closed until the next batch of leaks, rumors and reports pop up that renew interest and thus more clicks and revenue. It's an endless cycle.

Off-topic: Why are you protecting your sources if they are willingly breaking laws?

Calm Mind
Has finally lost it

Come on, buddy, don't drown so close to the shore.

 

[Dystify]

Edit:

The up-to-date NX rumor list can be found here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=215758899&postcount=3056

 

[Silent_Ocarina]

Nintendo's ABXY buttons are arguably also quite iconic and they did change them on Gamecube. I'm sure if Nintendo changes their d-pad they have a good reason to do so. I doubt they'd make their controller worse on purpose.

Also, I don't think the d-pad will be gone 100%. There will still be controllers that have the traditional d-pad. I'd bet controllers from Wii U and Wii still work on NX.

Hmm, I actually think the ABXY Cross design wasn't really iconic until Nintendo brought it back with Wii Classic Controllers. Before, the cross was only seen on SNES, unless I'm mistaken. Nintendo changed the button layout with all of their home consoles until Wii U.

 

[Nanashrew]

It would be weird to doubt WSJ since they have a great track record with Nintendo leaks and rumors.

 

[Gleethor]

Hmm, I actually think the ABXY Cross design wasn't really iconic until Nintendo brought it back with Wii Classic Controllers. Before, the cross was only seen on SNES, unless I'm mistaken. Nintendo changed the button layout with all of their home consoles until Wii U.

They brought it back with the DS.

 

[RavageDark]

Read my responses again. I've given you both why it can succeed where Wii U failed, why it can afford to fail where Wii U failed. I've given you why that quote has little worth. It is just new platform speak; moreover being a hybrid is a bit more than just a Wii U Gamepad that can plug into the TV. Wii U Gamepad can't go on a train with you without the console.

None of what you said (added quote included) counters the point of the NX, as described by the rumor, would be a successor to the Wii U, especially when the Wii U biggest selling point was the Wii U gamepad itself. Saying that the NX would be the next step for the Wii U is saying that it's a successor. And you haven't given me a good reason to dismiss the quote.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

This is it people,this new week we will have a snippet of real news...I can feel it in me bones

I hope you're a kid and not a squid.

 

[MoonFrog]

None of what you said (added quote included) counters the point of the NX, as described by the rumor, would be a successor to the Wii U, especially when the Wii U biggest selling point was the Wii U gamepad itself. Saying that the NX would be the next step for the Wii U is saying that it's a successor. And you haven't given me a good reason to dismiss the quote.

Yes I have.

Did DS replace GBA? Yes. (i.e. the quote is corporate BS)

Is Hybrid console just a Wii U Gamepad that can plug into the TV? No. (i.e. Hybrid is sufficiently revolutionary)

Does Western oriented Nintendo corebox make any sense? No. (i.e. Hybrid makes most sense of shared catalog)