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[Plinko]

SMD is mind-boggling. I can understand him clinging hard to what he has reported if he has multiple "devs" (in his mind) telling him this. Understandable.

But his logic at times is bizarre. For instance, he's now saying the 6.2-inch screen would be "too big for Japan" and is saying that since automobile displays are 6.2 inches, that's where the report came from and it was a mistake. That makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[Speely]

#teamsept6

Let's GO!

 

[DerekOfTheDykes]

What part of clicks and ad revenue don't you understand? I'm pretty sure these threads on NeoGAF are responsible for their fair share of revenue to the site. Only when they have been exhausted do they get closed until the next batch of leaks, rumors and reports pop up that renew interest and thus more clicks and revenue. It's an endless cycle.

Username not looking all that accurate right now.

Stop worrying, and love the bomb. There's a huge difference between previous rumors and leaks coming from no-namers getting reported as rumors secondhand on a couple major sites, and one of the larger gaming sites "leaking" (if you choose to believe it) information which is then corroborated by several other sources both high and low across the interwebz and real-deal print media.

Not saying you have to believe it, at this point absolutely nothing is official... but if the Eurogamer "leak" ends up being significantly off-point there's going to be a rather large number of people and outlets who will never be taken seriously again. There's an order of magnitude larger than reporting a rumor as a rumor and confirming a leak with your own sources.

I watched the hell out of that fake controller leak, and aside from a couple of people saying they couldn't specifically rule it out (and one person expressing that some bigwigs were unhappy about that rumor being big in the news), I never saw any actual insider say "yes, this is true, this is definitely a thing, my source in fact has more details which follow".

 

[oti]

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Thank you so much. 😄
Your post made me realize that I missed quite a lot of new details. Battery life doesn't sound too hot unfortunately.

 

[MoonFrog]

Thank you so much. 😄
Your post made me realize that i missed quite a lot of new details. Battery life doesn't sound too hot unfortunately.

If the chip is really just a dummy and they go with a custom part, it might get better.

 

[NateDrake]

Username not looking all that accurate right now.

Stop worrying, and love the bomb. There's a huge difference between previous rumors and leaks coming from no-namers getting reported as rumors secondhand on a couple major sites, and one of the larger gaming sites "leaking" (if you choose to believe it) information which is then corroborated by several other sources both high and low across the interwebz and real-deal print media.

Not saying you have to believe it, at this point absolutely nothing is official... but if the Eurogamer "leak" ends up being significantly off-point there's going to be a rather large number of people and outlets who will never be taken seriously again. There's an order of magnitude larger than reporting a rumor as a rumor and confirming a leak with your own sources.

I watched the hell out of that fake controller leak, and aside from a couple of people saying they couldn't specifically rule it out (and one person expressing that some bigwigs were unhappy about that rumor being big in the news), I never saw any actual insider say "yes, this is true, this is definitely a thing, my source in fact has more details which follow".

Dual Pixels said it was legit, but they are awful and claimed a "source" exclusively sent them the image when it was found on Reddit hrs before they ever reported it.

 

[oti]

#teamsept6

Let's GO!

TGS starts 15/9 so maybe 14/9? That would be nice.

 

[RavageDark]

Yes I have.

Did DS replace GBA? Yes. (i.e. the quote is corporate BS)

Is Hybrid console just a Wii U Gamepad that can plug into the TV? No. (i.e. Hybrid is sufficiently revolutionary)

Does Western oriented Nintendo corebox make any sense? No. (i.e. Hybrid makes most sense of shared catalog)

The Gameboy Advance was discontinued in Japan two years after the DS was released, and even three years after the DS was released in North America.

 

[Plinko]

Thank you so much. 😄
Your post made me realize that I missed quite a lot of new details. Battery life doesn't sound too hot unfortunately.

It is pointless to report on battery life at this point when we know that the devkit had a totally different, overclocked chip.

 

[James Scott]

None of what you said (added quote included) counters the point of the NX, as described by the rumor, would be a successor to the Wii U, especially when the Wii U biggest selling point was the Wii U gamepad itself. Saying that the NX would be the next step for the Wii U is saying that it's a successor. And you haven't given me a good reason to dismiss the quote.

NX is technically not the Wii U successor as it's not a console. NX is technically not the 3DS's successor since it's not in the DS line just like DS was 3rd pillar after GBA.

 

[DerekOfTheDykes]

Dual Pixels said it was legit, but they are awful and claimed a "source" exclusively sent them the image when it was found on Reddit hrs before they ever reported it.

I didn't mention them, because we all pretty much knew you could trust Dual Pixels as far as you could throw the server their site was hosted on. Most of GAF was laughing off Dual Pixels immediately... the #TeamReal people were generally choosing to believe the leak in spite of their claims.

I meant more that no big-name site and nobody with a semi-positive history backed it up.

 

[Speely]

It is pointless to report on battery life at this point when we know that the devkit had a totally different, overclocked chip.

Very true. And battery life isn't something a dev kit really needs to have dialed in, at least not in the earlier kits.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Very true. And battery life isn't something a dev kit really needs to have dialed in, at least not in the earlier kits.

Plus, we all know the battery slot will be 3 times the size of the stock battery included with the NX

 

[MoonFrog]

The Gameboy Advance was discontinued in Japan two years after the DS was released, and even three years after the DS was released in North America.

Do you not get the third pillar reference? Or legacy systems?

Did PS4 replace PS3, cause PS3 is still going?

 

[Skittzo0413]

At the risk of showing how terrible I am at photoshop/paint, I made a mockup specifically showing off how ergonomics could possibly work with the detachable controllers:

Right half:

Note the trigger and shoulder buttons are on the "inside" of the controller, rather than the top. This makes it possible to hold a thinner control portion while still allowing easy access for the index finger. Also it could potentially allow for IR receivers on the top (a la Wiimotes) if they choose to include those.

Left half with split d-pad:

Attached to screen:

Obviously it cannot attach exactly at the shoulder/trigger but it can attach "on top" of those buttons, essentially sitting on top of the controller. This allows for easy support of the screen portion during normal gameplay (aka holding the device at a 0-45 degree angle from horizontal. It might need very strong connectors in order to hold it above your head (if you're playing with it in bed, for instance) but hey, this is a shitty mockup as advertised.

I really doubt it will look like this, but so far I haven't really seen anything outside of the simple rectangular control pieces that the Eurogamer sketch showed. They don't seem terribly comfortable to me.

Edit: It wasn't until I saw these pictures in dark theme that I realized how terrible I am at paint! Yikes!

 

[NateDrake]

I didn't mention them, because we all pretty much knew you could trust Dual Pixels as far as you could throw the server their site was hosted on. Most of GAF was laughing off Dual Pixels immediately... the #TeamReal people were generally choosing to believe the leak in spite of their claims.

I meant more that no big-name site and nobody with a semi-positive history backed it up.

I know. Unfortunately that fake has made people cautious (which isn't a bad thing in its own right) to believe anything - regardless of the outlet, its reputation, or the quality of the source.

 

[Turbowaffles]

NX is technically not the Wii U successor as it's not a console. NX is technically not the 3DS's successor since it's not in the DS line just like DS was 3rd pillar after GBA.

Might as well call it the Nintendo Anomaly, lol

 

[RavageDark]

Do you not get the third pillar reference? Or legacy systems?

Did PS4 replace PS3, cause PS3 is still going?

But the PS4 wasn't marketed as a different line than the PlayStation console series.

 

[MoonFrog]

At the risk of showing how terrible I am at photoshop/paint, I made a mockup specifically showing off how ergonomics could possibly work with the detachable controllers:

Right half:

Note the trigger and shoulder buttons are on the "inside" of the controller, rather than the top. This makes it possible to hold a thinner control portion while still allowing easy access for the index finger. Also it could potentially allow for IR receivers on the top (a la Wiimotes) if they choose to include those.

Left half with split d-pad:

Attached to screen:

Obviously it cannot attach exactly at the shoulder/trigger but it can attach "on top" of those buttons, essentially sitting on top of the controller. This allows for easy support of the screen portion during normal gameplay (aka holding the device at a 0-45 degree angle from horizontal. It might need very strong connectors in order to hold it above your head (if you're playing with it in bed, for instance) but hey, this is a shitty mockup as advertised.

I really doubt it will look like this, but so far I haven't really seen anything outside of the simple rectangular control pieces that the Eurogamer sketch showed. They don't seem terribly comfortable to me.

Cool. I'd been wondering when we'd see shoulders like that on a mock up. Was worried it made no sense for some reason, which would be bad if they're meant to be held like NES pads.

 

[Raiden1018]

#teamsept6

Let's GO!

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[MoonFrog]

But the PS4 wasn't marketed as a different line than the PlayStation console series.

And? You're grasping at straws. DS got the support GBA would get. GBA lasted some time into the DS period. I fail to see how name matters. Same thing with PS4, PS3.

Tell me why something else makes sense, if Nintendo can do hybrid.

If they did, say, a home console wouldn't that run more afoul of your quote?

 

[FZZ]

#teamsept6

Let's GO!

Is this the date people are expecting Nintendo to announce the date where they're going to reveal the NX?

The reveal date should be the day before TGS right?

I remember that's when the 3DS had its big game blowout, where MH4 was revealed.

RIP BurntPork

 

[Franz Brötchen]

I know. Unfortunately that fake has made people cautious (which isn't a bad thing in its own right) to believe anything - regardless of the outlet, its reputation, or the quality of the source.

The vocal subset of people who don't believe Eurogamer or the WSJ but are willing to bet their homes on a gameblog.fr report from months ago are obviously blocking anything that broadly contradicts their own wishes or projections how THEY would design a new system.
They will start quoting the hell out of the first Eurogamer contributer who claims anything containing the phrase 'stronger than PS4'.

 

[Dystify]

It is pointless to report on battery life at this point when we know that the devkit had a totally different, overclocked chip.

Interestingly Emily did mention that this is what we can expect from the final NX unit. She said she doesn't expect things to dramatically change and this should be close to the final product.

I'm not trying to argue for or against you, I'm just repeating what Emily said. Your comment kind of dismisses her point.

(The article where she mentions this: https://arcadegirl64.wordpress.com/2016/09/02/rumor-what-should-we-expect-from-the-final-nx-product/)

Personally I think it's very possible for the NX to have a not so great battery life, considering all the stuff inside of it. But I'm no expert in this area.

 

[KAL2006]

September 6th
NX Teaser Trailer with announcement date for these Direct

September 13th
NX Nintendo Direct
Name revealed
Concept revealed
Tech revealed
Price revealed
Date revealed
Games revealed (tons of games from 1st party to 3rd party)
Pretty Orders start
Press Hands On Straight after Direct


September 15
Japanese 3rd Party NX Games revealed throughout TGS

This would be the ideal timeline

 

[Speely]

Is this the date people are expecting Nintendo to announce the date where they're going to reveal the NX?

The reveal date should be the day before TGS right?

I remember that's when the 3DS had its big game blowout, where MH4 was revealed.

RIP BurntPork

It's an optimistic guess for the announcement of the reveal, and I am an optimist. I do think it would make sense aside from that, though.

 

[Jorok Goldblade]

#teamsept6

Let's GO!

My prediction:

Nintendo announces the reveal date somewhere between a few hours after Sony's conference and the following morning. The reveal will be at TGS, but with press events at Nintendo's US and European headquarters.

 

[NateDrake]

Interestingly Emily did mention that this is what we can expect from the final NX unit. She said she doesn't expect things to dramatically change and this should be close to the final product.

I'm not trying to argue for or against you, I'm just repeating what Emily said. Your comment kind of dismisses her point.

(The article where she mentions this: https://arcadegirl64.wordpress.com/2016/09/02/rumor-what-should-we-expect-from-the-final-nx-product/)

Personally I think it's very possible for the NX to have a not so great battery life, considering all the stuff inside of it. But I'm no expert in this area.

For discussion sake: What would you consider great battery life? I could say 5hrs isn't great battery life, but someone may find that acceptable. So if I tell you the NX has not so great battery life (as an opinion from my perspective of what good battery life is), it may could be fine to others.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Nothing is going to happen on the 6th.
Absolutely nothing.

 

[RavageDark]

And? You're grasping at straws. DS got the support GBA would get. GBA lasted some time into the DS period. I fail to see how name matters. Same thing with PS4, PS3.

Tell me why something else makes sense, if Nintendo can do hybrid.

If they did, say, a home console wouldn't that run more afoul of your quote?

No, a Nintendo home console wouldn't run afoul of my quote.

And it's not the "hybrid" part that I'm very skeptical about, it's how it is described by the Eurogamer rumors.

 

[BKSmash]

Nothing is going to happen on the 6th.
Absolutely nothing.

 

[Dystify]

For discussion sake: What would you consider great battery life? I could say 5hrs isn't great battery life, but someone may find that acceptable. So if I tell you the NX has not so great battery life (as an opinion from my perspective of what good battery life is), it may could be fine to others.

I'd be fine with 3~4 hours (many wouldn't be). I'd consider 5 hours great.

 

[MoonFrog]

No, a Nintendo home console wouldn't run afoul of my quote.

And it's not the "hybrid" part that I'm very skeptical about, it's how it is described by the Eurogamer rumors.

How wouldn't it? Say, NX is Nintendo Corebox. That'd be a pretty clear successor to the Wii U. The next generation Nintendo home console. It's as simple as it gets. Hybrid runs into the least problem with your quote.

How do you see hybrid working? If it is not some portable device that plugs into the TV, what is it? That is the issue you were picking at. That it was 'just a Wii U Gamepad.' What would have to be different about the portable for you not to make that (strange) claim?

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

It'll happen this month though.
THE LIFE OF THE PARTY IS BACK BITCHES

 

[javadoze]

For discussion sake: What would you consider great battery life? I could say 5hrs isn't great battery life, but someone may find that acceptable. So if I tell you the NX has not so great battery life (as an opinion from my perspective of what good battery life is), it may could be fine to others.

Anything around 3DS battery life (3-5 hours) is alright to me with 7+ hours being what I consider "great".

 

[Neoxon]

It's obvious that they're not going to make it before TGS. I think September as a whole is extremely unlikely at this point. They may even be trying to get some space from Sony, since it's rumored that they skipped E3 because they thought that both Neo and Scorpio would be announced there. I still think it's safest to just expect nothing until January.

That wouldn't give Nintendo enough time to hype up the NX for March.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

That wouldn't give Nintendo enough time to hype up the NX for March.

Malo thinks it's going to come out in 2019.

 

[RavageDark]

How wouldn't it? Say, NX is Nintendo Corebox. That'd be a pretty clear successor to the Wii U. The next generation Nintendo home console. It's as simple as it gets. Hybrid runs into the least problem with your quote.

How do you see hybrid working? If it is not some portable device that plugs into the TV, what is it? That is the issue you were picking at. That it was 'just a Wii U Gamepad.' What would have to be different about the portable for you not to make that (strange) claim?

The way I saw it was a handheld with a home dock.

And when I said I don't expect it to be a successor, I meant I don't expect it to be anything like the Wii U.

Edit: And even the dock I'm not totally sold on.

 

[Schnozberry]

That wouldn't give Nintendo enough time to hype up the NX for March.

3 months isn't enough hype? How long does it take people to make a purchase decision on a console once they learn about the hardware and software?

Personally, I think September/October is more likely, but I don't think they need 6 months to disseminate information in the age of Social Media.

 

[thefro]

I would bet on at least one of:
- Eurogamer
- WSJ
- Emily Rogers
- Let's Play Video Games
- MCV

Getting something significantly wrong in their reporting. Not saying they're completely wrong, just it's doubtful everything they've reported all turns out to be accurate.

 

[MoonFrog]

The way I saw it was a handheld with a home dock.

And when I said I don't expect it to be a successor, I meant I don't expect it to be anything like the Wii U.

That's how Eurogamer described it...There's talk of TV out on the device itself, but there's also talk of that just being for the devkit. Like portable dev kits often have.

Also, I don't think you have a lock on exactly what Nintendo meant when they said successor. Moreover, as I said: hybrid portability revolutionizes gamepad portability. It is ridiculous to think that that wouldn't set NX apart, but Nintendo PS4 would be set apart.

 

[DerekOfTheDykes]

For discussion sake: What would you consider great battery life? I could say 5hrs isn't great battery life, but someone may find that acceptable. So if I tell you the NX has not so great battery life (as an opinion from my perspective of what good battery life is), it may could be fine to others.

So, assuming we're talking about wireless functionality on, moderate screen brightness, and running a moderately taxing game...

I would argue that the ideal is probably about 6 hours, but they can potentially get away with as low as a 4 hour battery life. You want the unit to be able to stand a healthy social session of, say, Monster Hunter (which will likely be a key third party franchise for NX), or a couple of more casual sessions of Mario Kart. Less than 4 hours of gameplay time is a no-go.

However, the NX may get away with a 4 hour battery when the 3DS and Vita were derided for similarly low battery life, just because for many the NX will potentially see a lot of use on the dock where battery won't be an issue.

But the long and the short of it is, the NX has to be able to withstand that long Japanese train ride to work/school and back!

 

[James Scott]

3 months isn't enough hype? How long does it take people to make a purchase decision on a console once they learn about the hardware and software?

Personally, I think September/October is more likely, but I don't think they need 6 months to disseminate information in the age of Social Media.

$60 software usually needs 6 months or so, I imagine a $200+ console needs at least that.

 

[RavageDark]

That's how Eurogamer described it...There's talk of TV out on the device itself, but there's also talk of that just being for the devkit.

Also, I don't think you have a lock on exactly what Nintendo meant when they said successor. Moreover, as I said: hybrid portability revolutionizes gamepad portability. It is ridiculous to think that that wouldn't set NX apart, but Nintendo PS4 would be set apart.

Check my edit.

Edit: Also, one could make a huge argument that too much focus on being different and not enough focus on power is the reason the Wii U flopped.

 

[Schnozberry]

$60 software usually needs 6 months or so, I imagine a $200+ console needs at least that.

Do we have any real information on this? Or is this just generally accepted information from someone's ass?

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Do we have any real information on this? Or is this just generally accepted information from someone's ass?

The source is Cornholio.

 

[ozfunghi]

At the risk of showing how terrible I am at photoshop/paint, I made a mockup specifically showing off how ergonomics could possibly work with the detachable controllers

Two things:
1/ That's not a 6.2 inch screen.
2/ There is free software out there that will do a much better job than Paint. Like Gimp.

The source is Cornholio.

Errrrr hehe huh huh

 

[KAL2006]

I really hope the Pokémon within 6 months rumour is true even if it's a enhanced port of Sun and Moon. I don't own a 3DS and I'm hungry for a Pokémon game after the Pokémon Go hype.

 

[TheCongressman1]

I would bet on at least one of:
- Eurogamer
- WSJ
- Emily Rogers
- Let's Play Video Games
- MCV

Getting something significantly wrong in their reporting. Not saying they're completely wrong, just it's doubtful everything they've reported all turns out to be accurate.

I have a feeling quite a bit is going to be wrong, or changed.

 

[Oddduck]

I would bet on at least one of:
- Eurogamer
- WSJ
- Emily Rogers
- Let's Play Video Games
- MCV

Getting something significantly wrong in their reporting. Not saying they're completely wrong, just it's doubtful everything they've reported all turns out to be accurate.

At the very least, I expect the cartridges rumor to be proven true.

It seems like nobody is disagreeing on that.