OrbitalBeard
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We don't know if Sharp has anything to do with NX.
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Report: NX Handheld Dimensions, Layout Info, Lack of Region Lock
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We don't know if Sharp has anything to do with NX.
Ocarina_117
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I'm really not feeling all this detachable malarkey.
Been a massive Nintendo fan all my life. But this might be the first time a piece of hardware just isn't for me
I'm happy for all you handheld gaming fans, this seems really awesome for you guys. But Nintendo gaming has been mostly done at home for me, I rarely game on the go.
Been a massive Nintendo fan all my life. But this might be the first time a piece of hardware just isn't for me
I'm happy for all you handheld gaming fans, this seems really awesome for you guys. But Nintendo gaming has been mostly done at home for me, I rarely game on the go.
OrbitalBeard
Member
I'm really not feeling all this detachable malarkey.
Been a massive Nintendo fan all my life. But this might be the first time a piece of hardware just isn't for me
I'm happy for all you handheld gaming fans, this seems really awesome for you guys. But Nintendo gaming has been mostly done at home for me, I rarely game on the go.
Then...play NX on your TV at home?
Now I finally understand why Iwata called NX a "new concept".
People are struggling to wrap this idea around their head that a portable is also their home console.
Skittzo0413
Member
Ahaa! I'm totally with you on the ergonomics point. Here is something I did just now:
That's very cool, I like that! I was thinking the detachable controllers would be more intended to act as wiimotes, one in each hand, rather than connect together but that's certainly possible given what we've heard.
I believe there was a report several years ago that indicated Nintendo had made a deal with Sharp for the free form displays but we have heard nothing about that since. It could have been for their QoL sleep monitor, or even just prototypes for their various R&D.
That's not the problem. It's that if you're just going from the leaks, NX seems like a great looking handheld, but a mediocre looking home console.
I can't imagine that the NX controllers will have a simple shape just to be aesthetically pleasing. Look at the Gamepad. It's basically a square on the front, yes, but the back is shaped to resemble grips.
Nintendo should put half the hardware R&D team to make fake console and then make a million units just to fuck with us.
Nintendo should put half the hardware R&D team to make fake console and then make a million units just to fuck with us.
MisterHero
Super Member
Think of it this way: out of the box 2+ player funbox. It'll potentially be cheaper than 2 3ds's and 2 copies of Smash, and with console fidelity.I'm really not feeling all this detachable malarkey.
Been a massive Nintendo fan all my life. But this might be the first time a piece of hardware just isn't for me
I'm happy for all you handheld gaming fans, this seems really awesome for you guys. But Nintendo gaming has been mostly done at home for me, I rarely game on the go.
I want Dead Rising and GTA on the thing but I'll takes what I can get.
Ocarina_117
Banned
This is what I was getting at.
The detachables being your controller etc, the games there will be great I'm sure. But from someone who jumps out and buys Nintendo tech day 1, even the Wii u (ZombiU bundle), the more 'believable' rumours just don't make this thing sound great for the Nintendo home console fan.
Exactly. People are calling it a "handheld" almost exclusively whilst, probably out of the box, it can be used on your TV with some change we don't know about occurring. Handheld/TV interaction has almost always been either a small gimmick (phones with mini-HDMI ports, remote play) or something you have to buy seperately from the original device (Playstation TV, Gameboy Player, etc). Correct me if I'm wrong but we haven't seen this kind of handheld/console synergy before.
James Scott
Banned
It'll be better tech than the Wii U on the go. Might not be the most ideal console, but it's not supposed to be. It's meant to be an all in one system where Nintendo can make most of their software on. If you're ok with the Wii or the Wii U I'd think you would be more than ok with NX.
Ocarina_117
Banned
I get this. The thing really sounds like something my younger cousins would really love. Theyre always around my house playing the Wii U and have been badgering their father for one for nearly a year. On my advice I insisted he wait a while as a new 'console' is around the corner. I doubt this will be a piece of tech he'll be interested in, but his daughters will love it.
We need some confirmation that you'd even want to use those controllers out of the box over something else though. Currentlly, it might be an ergonomically challenged Wiimote.
i'm impressed by all those mock ups, they are pretty cool and well done and all..
But i don't know man.. i can't see any of this being the NX.. it's just too complicated, not efficient enough. There is no strong idea, it just doesn't feel like something that would catch on at all...
I think even the simple idea of anything that has to be de-assembled and assembled.. is just not really 2017 you know..
I mean the detachable pads for multi, ok, cause they can sell the idea of the multi for kids.
But the pad that you have to assemble to play after that on tv.. hm i don't feel it at all.
There is something way more catchy, i think, in the vision of somoene just turning on its portable near a tv and bam you push a button and it's on the tv and you're playing with the same device in your hands (with some wireless transmission to an hdmi dongle).
But the whole part with detaching the pads, pluging the console in the dock, assembling the pad with the eventual add on to make it barely ergonomic.. pffff, it's something out of an early 90's toy commercial.. in a bad way.
But i don't know man.. i can't see any of this being the NX.. it's just too complicated, not efficient enough. There is no strong idea, it just doesn't feel like something that would catch on at all...
I think even the simple idea of anything that has to be de-assembled and assembled.. is just not really 2017 you know..
I mean the detachable pads for multi, ok, cause they can sell the idea of the multi for kids.
But the pad that you have to assemble to play after that on tv.. hm i don't feel it at all.
There is something way more catchy, i think, in the vision of somoene just turning on its portable near a tv and bam you push a button and it's on the tv and you're playing with the same device in your hands (with some wireless transmission to an hdmi dongle).
But the whole part with detaching the pads, pluging the console in the dock, assembling the pad with the eventual add on to make it barely ergonomic.. pffff, it's something out of an early 90's toy commercial.. in a bad way.
Bubba_Sparks
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I love the work put into a lot of these concepts. Some really great effort has been put in on these! One thing I continually have trouble with is the apparent ergonomics of the separated controllers. They just don't look very comfortable, and seem like they would be too small. I wonder if some detail about the final design hasn't been leaked yet that might help in this regard?
I agree with your general assessment. I just don't know how this idea is expected to catch fire. Maybe if the central screen portion can function as a full on tablet Nintendo might be onto to something. The controllers would be something you put on only when you need to, and that way the device spends most of it's time as a tablet. I don't think that's in the cards though.
I'm interested to see how it turns out in the end.
I agree with your general assessment. I just don't know how this idea is expected to catch fire. Maybe if the central screen portion can function as a full on tablet Nintendo might be onto to something. The controllers would be something you put on only when you need to, and that way the device spends most of it's time as a tablet. I don't think that's in the cards though.
I'm interested to see how it turns out in the end.
OmegaSmash
Member
I have my own weird theory that the free form display will be used for the buttons, so that they change depending if you're playing handheld or local 2 player.
Ocarina_117
Banned
Saying all I've said - Zelda BoTW and a rumoured 3D Mario game within 6 months of launch will sucker me into getting this day one.
J
Jpop
Unconfirmed Member
The way I see it.
There is an actual dock for a reason, and that reason has nothing to do with the actual streaming.
If Nintendo wanted they could have a dongle for streaming, ala chromecast et al, or even have it were the NX could natively stream to smart Tvs. They already have that tech with the Wii U and it is fantastic.
Having the dock tells you that there is something more to the NX than just Portable -> TV Streaming.
We will see what that something is soon.
There is an actual dock for a reason, and that reason has nothing to do with the actual streaming.
If Nintendo wanted they could have a dongle for streaming, ala chromecast et al, or even have it were the NX could natively stream to smart Tvs. They already have that tech with the Wii U and it is fantastic.
Having the dock tells you that there is something more to the NX than just Portable -> TV Streaming.
We will see what that something is soon.
James Scott
Banned
I don't think many games will ask you to detach, but there have already been a couple of touch screen only games like Kirby and the rainbow curse. I could see touch screen modes for games as well. Something like captain toad can probably work well with only touch screen inputs and Bayonetta had a touchscreen mode
OmegaSmash
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Jpop
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Most likely, but I have no idea how that would/will be implemented so I'd rather not speculate on it.
Animal Crossing, Strategy Games, RPGs, and Puzzle games would all work great without buttons.
MisterHero
Super Member
Fair enough, though I'm psyched the Wiimote is finally being rdesigned/replaced.
Edit: I goofed. I don't recall confirmation that they work independently from each other.
Same boat here. I feel like the NX platform seems a pretty likely candidate for the SCD tech, but there are too many ways in which it could be used (if ever) to lend any one idea credence.
Claude Augario
Member
Mobile ports.
CrAzY FiNgErS
Member
Ok. Here we go my final mock up post from this thing. Thanks everyone for the input, particularly Refreshment.01 and skypunch. I tried to implement all ideas, but it is impossible to make everyone happy since some people like things other hate. It has been a lot of fun joining you guys in the effort to visualize all the leaks and ideas into one product. Hope you guys like it and see you all in the reveal!
I like your d-pad-buttons hybrid. It would fit the rumor of a split d-pad as well as functioning like each of the 4 face buttons. As long as Nintendo finds a way to make it work and feel intuitive/comfortable I have no problem with it.
Also, I may be late to the party, but in Zelda BotW this picture shows the buttons closer than normal in a d-pad style fashion. I thought it looked odd at first but maybe Nintendo has this in mind all along.
A lot of times, fan ideas are amazingly ambitious and amazing and you really wish the real thing was like it.
But the more I see, the more I secretly wish we get a boring black box.
WSJ said analysts PREDICT a Sept presentation, but its not an actual inside source.
netgrimoire
Member
He really is!!
Personally, I don't want it to be too small because I have huge hands but I also wouldn't mind just playing it on my television instead since I don't really get out much anyway.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
I don't know, I'm thinking that's a bit more than a guess.
Ok. Here we go my final mock up post from this thing. Thanks everyone for the input, particularly Refreshment.01 and skypunch. I tried to implement all ideas, but it is impossible to make everyone happy since some people like things other hate. It has been a lot of fun joining you guys in the effort to visualize all the leaks and ideas into one product. Hope you guys like it and see you all in the reveal!
I've never played Dragon Quest, and this mock up makes me want to try it.
With the way things are leaking out, it's probably a good idea to reveal the system this month.
(If those leaks are accurate, of course.)
TLZ
Banned
Ahaa! I'm totally with you on the ergonomics point. Here is something I did just now:
I like this one. Has a nice retro look to it. Imagine Nintendo giving us more attachment options, like one that looks like a classic Nintendo/snes controller
Would be a good idea even if the leaks aren't accurate if they want to launch in March 2017.
OG_Original Gamer
Member
You can count me out, I want Metroid Prime whatever. COD, and NFS on one console. Nintendo again has chosen to not support me, so I can't continue to support them.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
What about the system tells you there can't be a Metroid Prime for it???
Oh, you basically want all the third parties which wouldn't happen even if the system was more "normal".
OmegaSmash
Member
I'd bet on something before TGS, or after Color Splash is released.
TheBaldEmperor
Member
I suggest you wait for the reveal.
Also, I may be late to the party, but in Zelda BotW this picture shows the buttons closer than normal in a d-pad style fashion. I thought it looked odd at first but maybe Nintendo has this in mind all along.
Hmm...
That's assuming the face buttons on the right are the exact same as the left.
So apparently, instead of the left looking like a split D-pad, it looks more like that on the image.
Maybe, but I'm not so certain. However, there's always the possibility of changing to the Wii Remote style controls that could explain this instead of using traditional controls.
Edit: Thinking some more. I'm probably not going to look too much into it.
Honestly it's a pretty crappy handheld based on the rumors as well but that's being overlooked because it's powerful and a lot of people are graphics... you know. If you think that I'm wrong, tell me this: what about these rumors makes it appealing other than power? Factor in the rumored mediocre battery life, the huge screen, and the detachable controllers which don't add much to the typical handheld experience whole also negatively impacting the design due to things like the split D-pad and possibly sub-optimal circle pad placement?
Local multiplayer on the go. It's not much but that's the 'advantage'.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
A "huge" screen is a negative to you???
The bigger the better for playing any kind of Nintendo game.
Well, within reason.
Well when you put it like that, it sounds... very bad.
Davey Cakes
Member
The huge screen is a plus for console-esque experiences like BotW, the battery life is likely in line with recent Nintendo handhelds considering the size of the handheld, and the detachable controllers are only a concept that we can "mock up" until seeing the real thing that Nintendo themselves designed. There are a lot of assumptions going around and a lot of them are based on non-final hardware.
Plus, it's not about graphics whores. I'm FAR from a graphics whore. I'm excited for TV experiences on NX even though they will likely not be much beyond Wii U. But, as far as the handheld component goes, I'm pretty stoked.
Honestly, we NEEDED a good leap above 3DS in terms of power and it sounds like that's what we're getting. The 3DS seems ancient at this point. Did you see the recent Direct? It was like being sucked back to 2011 or earlier. If Nintendo can design something ergonomic then all will be swell.
I will eat crow if the NX is some unappealing monstrosity.
Yes it would be blocked when you are using it in handheld mode and substituted for motion aiming. However when dettached it would be usable holding the controller as a wii remote. IR aiming was a feature a lot of people wanted, but also l and r triggers for snes style play, this idea was the best I could come up while having those two features.
AquaWateria
Member
Can't you customize the controllers? I mean there's a reason why they're detachable.
So I assume if you were to want analog sticks instead of circle pads you could change them down the line. That could be a plus.
So I assume if you were to want analog sticks instead of circle pads you could change them down the line. That could be a plus.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
The NX whatever it is was a mistake, it's nothing but trash.
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