I never said I wanted them to ban anything. All I said is that they have no obligation to support unlicensed accessories, especially ones that could enable cheating, and that using turbo during competitive play is cheating. You're the one twisting yourself into knots over a silly take on turbo functionality.
This turbo mode is 100% cheating online
Says those laying beneath the feet of the victors. In Phil we trust.
The point is that people can use turbo online with an officially licenced controller right now (regardless of your opinion of turbo) and that's no reason to block Brook.
Brook doesn't have those. It's just a controller adapter.
And I am in the camp if people use this function online vs other players its cheating and Brook is not just a controller adapter, it allows programming controllers that isn't allowed natively and I don't care what 8BitDo is allowing
I dont play competitive online stuff these days. But aren't games equipped with detection algorithms? Which if the publisher or xbox decided turbo wasn't playing fairly, ban players by detecting the fire rate? Not sure how digital triggers factor into all of this and cross play with PC with no hardware restrictions.
Define what you mean by programmable because it does nothing different that an xbox elite controller doesn't already allow in terms of programming it. The Official Xbox Adaptive controller is even more programmable and offers turbo too so it clearly is allowed. The 8bitdo stick is an official licenced product too so what makes the brook adapters different other than it being deemed unauthorised by MS?
Nope, I don't use turbo at all. I was just wondering why you posted videos of turbo on Brook adapters and mentioned it like it's some kind of cheating device when official licenced products have turbo too and you're free to use those online. I didn't know it was just your own opinion of turbo unrelated to the device ban.
All this over unlicensed controllers, the discord must be popping today.
I especially like the post where the dude is saying imagine if the situation was reversed, not realizing that Sony already doesn't allow unlicensed controllers .. or hell their own official DS4 to be used on PS5 games even if you disable the haptics
There's always a lighthouse, there's always a goalpost.
We are just going round and round and you are intentionally being obtuse
Then the torch is passed to them.Quoted the wrong post chief. The whatbaoutism started way before it.
How? You said its programmable like it offers some other "cheat" beyond the officially allowed on licenced controllers turbo. You said it is somehow programmable. When I ask what programmability you say we've both shared our feelings? Come on man, that's not a 'feeling' or covered ground. You stated something that you believe differentiates it from official products and I asked what you believe that is. If you don't want to discuss that that's fine but to claim I'm being obtuse or going round here is just unnecessary.
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And then he says this
Oh I know just saying Tom seems to think cronus will stop working but Jez doesn't think but the funny part to me was Jez saying MS can't detect those devices to begin with
Because you said
Ybarra always said they knew exactly when someone was using those devices but Xbox would not do anything and leave it up to each game devs how they wanted to handle it
So your programmabilty was still referring to the turbo function only? OK. I said that because you made it seem like something else. The Brook offers nothing the elite doesn't already allow outside of turbo. There are official pads that allow turbo and button mapping both first and third party official licenced ones. You're dealing with those people online already.
I'm not saying I don't see a difference between enabling turbo and button mapping. Where's that coming from?
Well now Xbox is the dev of the biggest online shooter.
Because it's an excuse. if Ybarra is already saying they can detect when people use those cheating devices what reason is there that you should stop people using other brand racing wheels in other games, or their fighting sticks?
So you are saying they aren't harder to clone? (note: I didn't say they are too hard to clone)
It seems to have changed very little though. I've not seen any reports that the update will stop XIM or even cronus, only reports of it having stopped devices like brook and reports of a new licensing program MS plan to launch.
The reason nobody makes cheap PS5 controllers isn't because they're in any way difficult to produce, it's because Sony loves to sue anyone who steps out of line. I still haven't forgiven them for shutting down Lik-Sang.
PS4 allowed copying saves to USB. PS5 started denying that shit for PS5 games.
Yep and a lot of folks use Brook to get peripherals like fight sticks, wheels and so on to work on Xbox. Like me
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I would wait and see what happens. I hope and have a good feeling things will work out in the end and nothing will happen to brook devices. It's damn ridiculous but there are ways to get your fight stick working using an £80 MS 'adapter' of sorts but I'm not sure it's worth it. It depends how much you value your current fight stick.Yep and a lot of folks use Brook to get peripherals like fight sticks, wheels and so on to work on Xbox. Like me
What do you mean by steps out of line? As in breaking some patent laws?
I think any unauthorized devices wired or wireless are affected judging by the info released.
Reminds me of this lol
You can as far as I am aware, but it backs up all saves, you cant do them individually, but it does mean you can move all saves from one PS5 to anoither
