Lol
To be fair, the fact that he's talking about touching people's hands does make him sound a bit of a germophobe.
Not that this has any bearing whatsoever on the golden shower thing.
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To be fair, the fact that he's talking about touching people's hands does make him sound a bit of a germophobe.
Not that this has any bearing whatsoever on the golden shower thing.
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DontBeThatGuy
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It's just astounding how many times he's contradicted himself.
It's also outrageous to use him being a germaphobe to debunk the idea that he acted out a personal vendetta against the Obamas. Surely, that isn't enough to serve as evidence.
Because if it was, Trump would have never been allowed to be president.
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Isn't it technically illegal if it's a leaked intelligence document?
They aren't wrong.
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The letter from last night explicitly says it isnt an intelligence community document because it was not gathered by the intelligence community and so it is not classified. So it is not an illegally leaked intelligence document.
SwordStruck
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Yep, this is how fast diplomacy is out the window and you're one step closer to a real world conflict. All without doing a thing.
Audioboxer
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Good point. I guess it's just private investigatory work then considering the ex-MI6 guy it came from? What is that classed as though? Citizen work? Citizen intelligence?
Dubbedinenglish
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Same lies "x person called me/sent a letter" he is too much a coward to address it himself but will shift the burden to someone who cannot answer it.
beelzebozo
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wish twitter would ban him. such a disgusting emesis of misinformation
MightyHedgehog
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Not exactly reassuring that there is now a fracture in trust between allied intelligence communities and that the break starts with our own and the incoming administration. Jeez.
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Nope.
Twitter exposes him day by day.
DontBeThatGuy
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He's a pathological liar, so probably.
Oh shit. You do NOT want to piss off Israel lol.
The notion that someone close to Trump's administration (if not Trump himself) would be willing to pass on intelligence or even use it as a bartering chip with Russia who has a vested interest in Middle Eastern/Eastern European resource ownership (with an aim to exert a diplomatic grip over Israel)... if there is even a ring of truth to any of this, then Vladimir Putin is a genius mastermind far beyond the public's current acknowledgement.
If Netanyahu and his people get a whiff of this, it's over.
Imperfected
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I mean, it's good to know he's only touching the hands of people who are near him at the time, though. At least we know he isn't terrorizing Morioh.
The genius is that it doesn't even require any change of policy or law or a military operation. Just the simple existence of doubt is enough to change the world for the better for Russia and for the worse for almost everyone else.
Nah, just ignore Trump then send the FBI etc. to arrest Trump and friends next week, one of the agents can say, good day non President.
That or maybe there are explicit reasons why he wanted bloviating non politicians in office.
Mix up his past ties with the network, the influence of neocon Joe Scarborough and hire of Megyn Kelly - they are making a play at being the next Fox News now that the center is falling out over there. Poor Rachel.
Thank you for sharing this. If I were Chalupa i would've been scared out of my mind after the yahoo warnings.
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TarpitCarnivore
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Fox, MSNBC and all of theme compete and slam each other but there is a universal understanding that you do not try and take down the press. He's effectively trying to silence press and revoke their 1st amendment rights.
Even though that press event yesterday was a shitshow and typical Trump, if it did one good thing it likely united the press. They now see and understand what it means if he is not attacked and taken down.
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DontBeThatGuy
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It's just Shephard Smith. The rest of them over at Fox News will be falling in line.
I think as the credentials of the MI6 agent have been revealed, his credibility has greatly skyrocketed.
There are allegations in here that are true. There is enough reporting from the last year to prove it, enough straight up actions by Trump to prove it.
Intelligence just needs to verify with evidence some of these claims, particularly the ones that actually matter (quid pro quo with Russia, sponsored hacking, Trump as Russian cultivated candidate). And it seems they are confident there's absolutely something there. Getting FISA permits are a big deal.
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It's not just Shep, there are some serious journalists there, it's just the editorial staff (which is most of their content) which is full of shit
Imperfected
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Pissed off the press, the intelligence community, the political establishment...
I mean, he did run as an outsider candidate, but usually that's supposed to be because of disruptive ideas and inflexible morals, not because you're just prone to shooting your mouth off in public and pissing everyone off.
My advice, Trump: go in hard on the military next. You had a good basis built up with how you know more than the generals of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and former POWs are losers, but you need to step your game up if you're going to completely lose the support of another one of the pillars of legitimate power.
Listening to a NPR One story about James Mattis' confirmation hearing with an interview with Jim Inhofe.
He thinks the report is completely false, tells people touting it to accept that Trump has won and to move on.
More importantly, when told that McCain gave the report to FBI, meaning he probably thought it was important, Inhofe dismisses it with the old "Well, it's well known that McCain was never really with Trump soooooo...."
He also says that FBI probably shouldn't investigate these claims.
I guess we're beginning to see how the GOP will try to cover this all up if any of this proves to be true.
(The NPR One story is also further terrifying because Inhofe basically endorses Trump and Mattis' plan to enforce American power through strength and response and supports increasing build-up of the military. So, if Trump isn't a Russian candidate anyway, it's not gonna matter. We'll all just die in the upcoming war :/)
He thinks the report is completely false, tells people touting it to accept that Trump has won and to move on.
More importantly, when told that McCain gave the report to FBI, meaning he probably thought it was important, Inhofe dismisses it with the old "Well, it's well known that McCain was never really with Trump soooooo...."
He also says that FBI probably shouldn't investigate these claims.
I guess we're beginning to see how the GOP will try to cover this all up if any of this proves to be true.
(The NPR One story is also further terrifying because Inhofe basically endorses Trump and Mattis' plan to enforce American power through strength and response and supports increasing build-up of the military. So, if Trump isn't a Russian candidate anyway, it's not gonna matter. We'll all just die in the upcoming war :/)
Large Professor
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What better way to bury the whole thing than to start some shit against Russia?
TarpitCarnivore
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Shep doesn't get to stand up there and say that without producer approval and such. You cannot dismiss him doing this as just "it's fox, they'll fall in line". Every single news organization worth a damn (and that includes fox) saw what went down. They're not going to just roll over and accept this.
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And then the video evidence coincidentally appears.
From summary in OP:
Errrr...if this were true, how in the world is Trump not in jail, let alone allowed to be elected as the next U.S. President? Didn't Obama just sanction Russia based off of similar information? The evidence is firm enough to punish Russia, but not Trump (when the allegation agaisnt him is the most damning of all)? And we just let the election move right along when our own government thought one of candidates was working with the enemy? Am I missing something here?
Errrr...if this were true, how in the world is Trump not in jail, let alone allowed to be elected as the next U.S. President? Didn't Obama just sanction Russia based off of similar information? The evidence is firm enough to punish Russia, but not Trump (when the allegation agaisnt him is the most damning of all)? And we just let the election move right along when our own government thought one of candidates was working with the enemy? Am I missing something here?
DontBeThatGuy
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Show me anyone else on the Fox News network defending CNN and taking a stand here. Shep breaking away from the pack is not a new thing.
I'm guessing the missing evidence here is something linking Trump and Manafort's removal of the Crimea stuff to the DNC Wikileaks stuff. They both happened, yes. IC probably needs some form of concrete evidence connecting the two as influencing each other.
No one knows for sure if it's true.
PumpkinSpice
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If that intel was known before it was clear he was going to be the Republican candidate, sure, he should have been arrested. Any time after say April, you're looking at the FBI intervening to arrest a political candidate and potentially Obama approving it, which would throw the entire election into chaos and potentially spark mass protests. Best thing to hope for at that point is he just loses, which he didn't, which leads to today where the best thing we can hope for is his own party to impeach him.
Just fucking arrest this man already!!!!!!
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It's probably because I don't use a lot of social media, but how do you guys even find these random tweets from people that have hardly any followers?
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I can't bear it anymore lol
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Searching for key words and/or some twitter profiles might be linked in known communities which have eyes checking what they are up to.
Everything was worth it for the Colbert jokes. He has more material than he can work with.
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