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nush

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when you say the quiet part out loud


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When the answers are not unanimously CDPR.
 

cormack12

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Incredible how they keep saying this like this yet can never provide a fucking list of these works that are supposedly "rife" with this stuff? What CDPR games are rife with racism and transphobia? Obviously I'm excluding CP, which is unreleased and which we've seen less than 1% of.

What a bunch of lying filth. They pretend to care SO MUCH about devs, but how would a dev feel reading that shit, and these baseless claims that everything they have worked on is racist and transphobic?


They think Witcher was racist because no one was black. The developers explained this relative to Poland where they say basically so many people are white but there is a raft of beliefs and that's what they mirrored in Redania, Nilfgaard, Witchers etc but it was lost on deaf ears. Or they couldn't appreciate the nuance o fthe point being made.

CP2077, I dunno. I think it was the chick with wang. Racism because the cab driver was ethnic and was a stereotype. Racism because the asian gang archetype had a chopstick font. A tweet about being an attack helicopter. Some more images and avderts from night city.

It's all a pile of shit for low intelligence people to reee about. And other intelligent people to ignore while they virtue signal.
 
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Incredible how they keep saying this like this yet can never provide a fucking list of these works that are supposedly "rife" with this stuff? What CDPR games are rife with racism and transphobia?

Its because its all "self evident" according to them, and if you ask questions you are a "just asking questions" troll. Like most things with modern leftists, they just create a circular ecosystem that avoids criticism and self reflection.
 
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That's not what ResetEra's moderation strives for. They strive for ideological uniformity - which includes allowing certain types of racism and certain types of bigotry to rear their heads. Any attempt to portray moderation over there as mere housecleaning against racism and bigotry is a complete misrepresentation.

I'm not stanning for the resetera mods, I'm just supporting the claim that unmoderated online communities tend to go in that direction. That doesn't mean you have to do what they do.

Edit: actually I wasn't supporting the bit about tightly controlled speech and tough rules. You don't need to go nuts. Just ban the people who say racist things. The biggest challenge is indirect racism. Does something amount to racism with context even if it isn't outright racist taken in isolation? On that you just have to make a call.
 
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Ymir

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Ymir

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Ok, fine... tl;dr Kyuuji is now in cyberpunk and walrus has a podcast on spotify
Kyuuji screeches at you when you transphobically choose the wrong genitalia. Spooky porch monkey is also going to be DLC that moans and says "this is so comforting" when you choose a vagina on a male body
 

notseqi

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Kyuuji screeches at you when you transphobically choose the wrong genitalia. Spooky porch monkey is also going to be DLC that moans and says "this is so comforting" when you choose a vagina on a male body
It'll be a NPC that follows you around everywhere you go and comments every single action you do with 'That's problematic.'
 
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mr.dilya

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They think Witcher was racist because no one was black. The developers explained this relative to Poland where they say basically so many people are white but there is a raft of beliefs and that's what they mirrored in Redania, Nilfgaard, Witchers etc but it was lost on deaf ears. Or they couldn't appreciate the nuance o fthe point being made.

CP2077, I dunno. I think it was the chick with wang. Racism because the cab driver was ethnic and was a stereotype. Racism because the asian gang archetype had a chopstick font. A tweet about being an attack helicopter. Some more images and avderts from night city.

It's all a pile of shit for low intelligence people to reee about. And other intelligent people to ignore while they virtue signal.

imagine expecting a polish company to produce accurate representations of black people. The darkest thing they’ve ever seen in their life is probably a kielbasa.
 

teezzy

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They're mad because CDPR isnt cowering in fear of the criticism against em. It's like when you use accidentally use the wrong move in Pokemon and it's not very effective. They're so used to cancelling people and having them beg for mercy that they have no clue how to react when people just laugh it off.
 

Ymir

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CDPR tweets out a pretty hilarious but benign video, poking fun at themselves..



You can imagine the responses at that shithole. Such a miserable place devoid of any humor of joy.


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LOL, only a place like that would be this angry over a company poking fun at themselves for screwing up. They really want everyone else to be as angry and miserable as they are. What pathetic pieces of shit.
 

Mochilador

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LOL, only a place like that would be this angry over a company poking fun at themselves for screwing up. They really want everyone else to be as angry and miserable as they are. What pathetic pieces of shit.
It's amazing. I can't believe these people are real. Can't be real.
 

tkscz

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So they're constantly calling them transphobes, why? What proof have they of this claim? Same with the racist claim. Or is this just one of those "everyone who disagrees with me is Hitler" things.
 
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TheContact

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So they're constantly calling them transphobes, why? What proof have they of this claim? Same with the racist claim. Or is this just one of those "everyone who disagrees with me is Hitler" things.

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“Personally, for me, this person is sexy,” Redesiuk said. “I like how this person looks. However, this model is used — their beautiful body is used — for corporate reasons. They are displayed there just as a thing, and that’s the terrible part of it.”


Redesiuk said that the world of Cyberpunk 2077 includes many people who are gender-nonconforming, some of whom enjoy showing off their bodies in public. They are a demographic group with significant purchasing power, and so, megacorporations use their likenesses to sell soft drinks. It’s supposed to be a play on the same sort of hypersexualized advertising that modern companies use to sell products today, just brought in line with the kind of future CD Projekt wants to portray.

And mind you the artist who is in charge of the art of the fiction in the game is a woman.

and from a Gamasutra interview with the quest director:

Gamasutra: We haven't seen the full character selection screen. The team said it wasn't finished yet. There are still many changes you all are making to the game. Has the team at all considered, given their use of [trans] characters like that in the game to depict cyberpunk, has the team thought about giving players that kind of choice over their character, to give themselves similar representation?


And if they're not, has the team considered the gap between portraying characters like that, and limiting what you can have your players represent themselves as?


Tomaskiewicz: Of course. It's a very sensitive and important subject I believe. We have put a lot of thought into this. One of the things we want to do in the final game (which we couldn't show in the demo yet, because as you mentioned it's a work in progress) is to give the players as many options of customization in the beginning of the game as we can.


For example, we want to do this thing where, as you create your character, after you choose the body type, you can, for example, use physical traits as you build your face that could be assigned to a man or a woman.


Gamasutra: Or nonbinary?


Tomaskiewicz: Or nonbinary. The idea is to mix all of those up, to give them to the players, as they would like to build it. Same goes for the voice. We wanted to separate this out, so the players can choose it freely. This is something we are still working on, it's not as easy as it sounds.


This is one part of it. In terms of how we depict the characters within the setting itself, of course, yes, we are paying a lot of attention to it, we do not want anyone to feel like we are neglecting this, or treating it wrongly.

if anything, the "anti-sjw" who also happen to be bigots are the ones who should be mad at CDPR and not the LGBTQ+ community imo
 
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FrostyLemon

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imminent proof its a political forum first and a gaming forum second?
 

tkscz

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And mind you the artist who is in charge of the art of the fiction in the game is a woman.

and from a Gamasutra interview with the quest director:



if anything, the "anti-sjw" who also happen to be bigots are the ones who should be mad at CDPR and not the LGBTQ+ community imo
Has the artist never seen a dick before? I pointed this out first time I saw that picture but the dick is backwards.

However, it's inclusion. Being for an advertisement shows normalization. Shows acceptance. I find it weird they see that and think "they must hate trans people"
 

Dabaus

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If yall want some good content go to the "How did fox news get so big?" Thread. According to jeff grubb (yes the xbox fanatic from twitter) says patriotism post 9/11 is because of racism and that it is disgusting. In any functional, stable, sane, rational society everybody in that thread would be in an insane asylum or exiled from society.
 

TheContact

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Has the artist never seen a dick before? I pointed this out first time I saw that picture but the dick is backwards.

However, it's inclusion. Being for an advertisement shows normalization. Shows acceptance. I find it weird they see that and think "they must hate trans people"

I don't see it as backwards. if anything it's a little low, but have you ever had a boner and didn't want to pitch a tent so you just tuck it up on your boxers/underwear so it points up vertically? that's what it looks like to me.
 

Tuff McNutt

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imminent proof its a political forum first and a gaming forum second?

Usually the "woke" polls backfire because they show that the majority of users don't care about the protected posters politics or causes. This caused some of them to whine and demand that either polls be not an option or that who voted for what should be publically viewable, theoretically so they could keep track of the posters who dare express wrongthink.
 

Gifmaker

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Ah, the good old "Mike drew some edgy shit comics 20 years ago so he is literally a Jews killing Nazi today" narrative.

Mike is, and always was, just a big unfortunate idiot who would try way too hard to crack jokes and get some laughs, and that's literally it. But of course because James never ended their friendship over what some irrelevant buffoons on the internet think of Mike, he is naturally a racist.

Stupid, uneducated, demented mob of cynical crybabies, that Reee lot.
 

tkscz

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I don't see it as backwards. if anything it's a little low, but have you ever had a boner and didn't want to pitch a tent so you just tuck it up on your boxers/underwear so it points up vertically? that's what it looks like to me.

Look at how the bell head is drawn, the rounder part of the bell head should be touching the body.
 

Ymir

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This shows how much they want to be facists while supposedly decrying facists. They literally want to mark you if you were any thing they feel isn't 100% perfect throughout any phase of your life. You can never make a mistake, they want to brand into your flesh these "atrocities" like having a different viewpoint or being part of a group they aren't a part of.

Amazing too because I'd love to see the history of people who support this so much. As with most of their moderation (and most people) they have skeletons in their closet, they aren't perfect humans who have never made mistakes but rather flawed humans. The big difference is that while most people would reflect and try to improve on themselves, they decide to erase and pretend it never happened and as a result never actual develop or become normal human beings.

Possibly the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. Resetera people are so pure and angelic.

These are always amazing because they look down on others over made up things like tipping a delivery person for a game console meanwhile none of these people have gainful employment...
 

#Phonepunk#

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These are always amazing because they look down on others over made up things like tipping a delivery person for a game console meanwhile none of these people have gainful employment...
just goes to show for all their BULLSHIT FAKE SOCIALISM they have zero class solidarity look at these hypocrites jfc

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"yes we will whine and bitch endlessly about dev crunch, but essential manual laborers during a pandemic, lol, fuck you! i will take my luxury gaming console and begone with you, peasant!"
 
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Bloobs

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This shows how much they want to be facists while supposedly decrying facists. They literally want to mark you if you were any thing they feel isn't 100% perfect throughout any phase of your life. You can never make a mistake, they want to brand into your flesh these "atrocities" like having a different viewpoint or being part of a group they aren't a part of.

Amazing too because I'd love to see the history of people who support this so much. As with most of their moderation (and most people) they have skeletons in their closet, they aren't perfect humans who have never made mistakes but rather flawed humans. The big difference is that while most people would reflect and try to improve on themselves, they decide to erase and pretend it never happened and as a result never actual develop or become normal human beings.


These are always amazing because they look down on others over made up things like tipping a delivery person for a game console meanwhile none of these people have gainful employment...

What if the delivery boy wears a Trump hat. Will they accept it?
 

notseqi

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Could you imagine if they actually used that as criteria for all their threads? They'd have pretty much no activity and all the screeching threads from the mentally disturbed would have to be locked.
I'd have to sling out a fuckton more replies to get some guilt in what people are posting here. And they aren't taking into account what the reaction emojis achieve, for once.
 

DapperSloth

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What on earths name is this!?

WHAT IS THIS!

Jesus cockbending motherfuckers, they are so fragile that anything remotely "dangerous" happening, they really go into a catatonic state and cry mommy. 1 thread a week with someone threatening a suicide or "I can't do this anymore, this country is fucked". Get. Your. Shit. Together. Trump has been president for 4 years and the only thing he does is fart in his chair, who the fuck cares?

"ResetEra - Even The Real Trans Hate Them!"


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teezzy

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I have a few close super left friends and the one bit of wisdom I always impart on them is that if they want to carry the weight of the world's problems on their shoulders, then they're going to feel the weight of the world's sorrows as well.

If everyone just focused on their own shit, we'd all be better off.
 

EviLore

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I have a few close super left friends and the one bit of wisdom I always impart on them is that if they want to carry the weight of the world's problems on their shoulders, then they're going to feel the weight of the world's sorrows as well.

If everyone just focused on their own shit, we'd all be better off.

Corollary: "If you want to change the world, you start with yourself and work outward because you build your competence that way. I don't know how you can go out and protest the structure of the entire economic system if you can't keep your room organized."
 

Chuckie

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I have a few close super left friends and the one bit of wisdom I always impart on them is that if they want to carry the weight of the world's problems on their shoulders, then they're going to feel the weight of the world's sorrows as well.

If everyone just focused on their own shit, we'd all be better off.

I like your bit of wisdom. I only partially agree with the second part. If I only focus on my own shit, but not that of (for instance) my family, I don't think that is a good thing. However I do agree you have to focus on your own shit first. Get your act together before you help others. And like you said...don't try to carry the weight of the world on your shoulders.

Edit: Or what this rando said V V V

Corollary: "If you want to change the world, you start with yourself and work outward because you build your competence that way. I don't know how you can go out and protest the structure of the entire economic system if you can't keep your room organized."
 
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