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[Master of Disguise]

I for one am shocked that a pen and paper game created by a black man is not in immediate, total agreement with iconic skinhead slogan "ACAB".

 

[teezzy]

lord forbid you believe in law and order in 2020/2021

fuck 'em

 

[ManaByte]

I for one am shocked that a pen and paper game created by a black man is not in immediate, total agreement with iconic skinhead slogan "ACAB".

Era believes Mike Pondsmith is white supremacist.

 

[Buggy Loop]

I'm still not clear on what caused the recent exodus from REEEEE other than people waking up to what a narcissistic, deranged and totalitarian shithole it is. I'd rather most of them don't migrate to be honest. People with minds that weak and easily influenced will only pollute a space free for critical debate by incensing and reverting to their tribalistic tendencies. Stick to the echo chambers of Twitter, please and thanks.

In the last year alone, I can think of at least a dozen exchanges on this board, where a member--or members--and I started at a point of contention and ended up either at a point of contented, thoughtful disgreement or even amiability. You'd be banned after the first contentious comment on REEEEE. And anyone who condoned that nonsense in the first place doesn't deserve a safe harbour here. Go fuck yourself. Sorry, not sorry.

You’re a 1 year old GAF baby..

Most of us have been hanging since the original gaming-age all the way back in 1998 or perhaps even before than I can recall. Most of us just wanted a gaming forum with insiders and a big flow of discussions, no politics (at least not politics leaking into gaming discussions)

You have to realize that GAF in 2017 was pretty much a light version of what resetera is today, with rogue mods being fucking insane with the bans.

The exodus, if we can even call it that (big raise in new posters in past weeks?) will be mostly with peoples who liked gaming discussions without walking on eggshells. The extremists that keep turning era into Reeee won’t even touch this forum with a ten foot pole.

 

[Barry Burton]

I see that H Hobbess appeared overnight. Fair play to be able to poke a little bit of fun at yourself. I disagree with your point that there's fun to be found in the critical analysis of games on ResetEra, but I do see how there's value in having those discussions. The problem, as many replies here have already pointed out, is that there is no discussion to be had on Era. It's either you have the correct opinion, or you're gone.

GAF has its warts, but the ability to post freely far outweighs all of that. Politically-speaking, this isn't the "alt-right hate site" that it's been made out to be; political views outside of the far left are allowed here, and that's really the only major difference. I still consider myself a liberal Democrat (even though I don't agree on much with the current American Left or the Democratic Party, but I feel like my politics haven't changed; the Left has just gone off the deep end). I don't like Trump and I never voted for him, but I think he's more of a jackass and a clown than the evil boogeyman much of the left sees him as. I voted a woman for president in the last two elections (Hillary and Jorgensen), which I think makes me more progressive than most. But the fact that I didn't vote for Joe Biden would be a big "no-no" over there, something that I wouldn't feel comfortable posting. To me, that's not a "me" problem, that's a ResetEra problem.

Anyways, I'm sure you'll realize for yourself how beneficial your time away from a toxic online community will be. You'll be welcome on GAF should you choose to post here again.

 

[Cunth]

lol @ the sucker who wasted their money on buying Hobbes gold

 

[Soapy Wooder]

I'll be honest, I enjoyed Era and I enjoyed the fact that it constantly highlighted social issues within video games and explored those topics in depth. I still fully support many of the Era communities that are marginalized and highlighted those issues for discussions.

Viewing video games through a critical lens and being able to put a spot light down so many different avenues of interest and how they tie back into the real world, etc. adds a layer of enjoyment that just doesn't seem to be there when you look at video games through these child-like goggles that so many people do and who only consume them at face value. If that makes any sense?

Ultimately, I disagree that Era doesn't want to chat about games or have a good time. Era wants to be a place where being critical and highlighting those issues doesn't get swept under the rug or dismissed, and that's an important space to have, because at the end of the day - We all want to be heard when we think we have something good to share.

Well this imo is why you see such as disconnect from people who post/posted there.

What is NeoGAF? A Gaming Forum/Discussion Board. What is Resetera? A place where...

The community at NeoGAF decides what it is about, incredibly fluid. The select few from Resetera decides what it is about. Now neither is right or wrong. It is just important to be upfront with the information. Resetera operates way more comparable to a Religion/Church than a open forum.

And being able to highlight critical issues isn't anything that isn't or can't be done anywhere else on the internet. However controlling the conversation isn't something anyone can do all over the internet.

 

[Barry Burton]

Since y'all deserve to know how their stories end...

This is precious.

CONCLUSION: Didn't last long there.

After being dogpiled on for comparing the mods to police:

Have some self-respect, ffs...

CONCLUSION: Sad, desperate attempt at self-shaming failed.

 

[Brute]

The site's owner should rename it PlayStationEra becaue the place is like it's sponsored by Sony Entertainment.

I've got a PS5 - I love it. But jesus over there they are obsessive about the console and it was the same with PS4. One person said the other day that he "can't stop just sitting and staring at his PS5".

It's like a forum populated by 12 year olds I swear to god.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

You’re a 1 year old GAF baby..

Most of us have been hanging since the original gaming-age all the way back in 1998 or perhaps even before than I can recall. Most of us just wanted a gaming forum with insiders and a big flow of discussions, no politics (at least not politics leaking into gaming discussions)

You have to realize that GAF in 2017 was pretty much a light version of what resetera is today, with rogue mods being fucking insane with the bans.

The exodus, if we can even call it that (big raise in new posters in past weeks?) will be mostly with peoples who liked gaming discussions without walking on eggshells. The extremists that keep turning era into Reeee won’t even touch this forum with a ten foot pole.

I love this narrative that one day majority of GAFers were like "huh there's a new URL to type into my browser hmm guess I'll just roll with it because that's where all the discussion went" as if that's the only piece of knowledge they had prior to making the exodus to ResetERA.

I mean, even taking it at face value that doesn't sound like a crowd that will generate interesting conversation.

I see that H Hobbess appeared overnight. Fair play to be able to poke a little bit of fun at yourself. I disagree with your point that there's fun to be had in the critical analysis of games on ResetEra, but I do see how there's value to those discussions. The problem, as many replies here have already pointed out, is that there is no discussion to be had on Era. It's either you have the correct opinion, or you're gone.

GAF has its warts, but the ability to post freely far outweighs all of that. Politically-speaking, this isn't the "alt-right hate site" that it's been made out to be; political views outside of the far left are allowed here, and that's really the only major difference. I still consider myself a liberal Democrat (even though I don't agree on much with the current American Left or the Democratic Party, but I feel like my politics haven't changed; the Left has just gone off the deep end). I don't like Trump and I never voted for him, but I think he's more of a jackass and a clown than the evil boogeyman much of the left sees him as. I voted a woman for president in the last two elections (Hillary and Jorgensen), which I think makes me more progressive than most. But the fact that I didn't vote for Joe Biden would be a big "no-no" over there, something that I wouldn't feel comfortable posting. To me, that's not a "me" problem, that's a ResetEra problem.

Anyways, I'm sure you'll realize for yourself how beneficial your time away from a toxic online community will be. You'll be welcome on GAF should you choose to post here again.

GAF doesn't care about your political alignments, that's the major difference. It's not that GAF "allows political views outside the far left", it's that GAF sends all that to the Politics board where it belongs and keeps it out of Gaming and OT. dismissing someone out of hand because they are such-and-such political alignment is not tolerated, not even on the Politics board. On other forums, it's the opposite (you quietly get banned for having Wrongthink).

GAFers regularly disagree on Politics side and then find something to agree upon in Gaming side, with no evident reservations nor a sense of "contradiction". In other words, GAFers know how to compartmentalize and how to judge people differently on different topics.

I don't think this place should be viewed as a political haven, it just happens to have a quarantine board. GAF shines because people can mix it up / disagree / insult one another but then go find common ground in other threads. That is not a characteristic of any one ideology / political group nor should it be, but it is a characteristic that ERA and many other modern internet communities lack.

 

[B-universe]

Respectfully, internet forums just aren't fun to be on, and I don't see eye to eye with probably the majority of people who post here. Not that I need an echo chamber, but more so the fact that I don't think there's any value in the conversations to have outside of this very brief one. I'm not gonna spend the time to defend my point of view, nor do I necessarily care to persuade anyone to "my side."



I don't think its dwelling. Morbid curiosity more than anything. I still don't understand why a thread like this exists, nor why I have any significance in being highlighted. Maybe I myself am just blind to my own status but I am unironically aligned on the belief that I am a nobody who just posts on an internet forum.



I'll be honest, I enjoyed Era and I enjoyed the fact that it constantly highlighted social issues within video games and explored those topics in depth. I still fully support many of the Era communities that are marginalized and highlighted those issues for discussions.

Viewing video games through a critical lens and being able to put a spot light down so many different avenues of interest and how they tie back into the real world, etc. adds a layer of enjoyment that just doesn't seem to be there when you look at video games through these child-like goggles that so many people do and who only consume them at face value. If that makes any sense?

Ultimately, I disagree that Era doesn't want to chat about games or have a good time. Era wants to be a place where being critical and highlighting those issues doesn't get swept under the rug or dismissed, and that's an important space to have, because at the end of the day - We all want to be heard when we think we have something good to share.

---

Anyways,

I am not going to be a GAF regular. While I fully recognize that the majority of posts about me are just taking the piss (and they're funny!), there are many posts that I've seen over this last year of randomly visiting that I can't condone, and as I'm sure you're all aware, being on the moral high horse is my personality.

Cheers!

Hopefully, you'll be able to acknowledge the fundamental difference between GAF and ERA. You were allowed to register. You were allowed to post. Your post has not been deleted. On the contrary, you post has been highlighted. You have not been banned.

Nothing remotely similar would be possible on ERA. Picture someone across the political aisle from you posting there. They wouldn't last one post.

Here you'll be able to make your case. Indeed, some members are aligned with you and do not shy away from expressing themselves. Know that you and everyone else has to defend their views rationally. Fallacies are usually called out, as they definitely should be.

Enjoy your time here.

Best wishes.

 

[CAB_Life]

You’re a 1 year old GAF baby..

Most of us have been hanging since the original gaming-age all the way back in 1998 or perhaps even before than I can recall. Most of us just wanted a gaming forum with insiders and a big flow of discussions, no politics (at least not politics leaking into gaming discussions)

You have to realize that GAF in 2017 was pretty much a light version of what resetera is today, with rogue mods being fucking insane with the bans.

The exodus, if we can even call it that (big raise in new posters in past weeks?) will be mostly with peoples who liked gaming discussions without walking on eggshells. The extremists that keep turning era into Reeee won’t even touch this forum with a ten foot pole.

Incorrect. I'm an OG gaffer, joined a when it was gaming-age or thereabouts. I just never bothered to recover my account as I ouldn't remember the name. Peekachu something. I wouldn't want to recover it anyway, as 20 year old me vs 40 year old me wouldn't see eye to eye on much.

 

[Jezbollah]

I love this thread. so much.

 

[EviLore]

Hopefully, you'll be able to acknowledge the fundamental difference between GAF and ERA. You were allowed to register. You were allowed to post. Your post has not been deleted. On the contrary, you post has been highlighted. You have not been banned.

Nothing remotely similar would be possible on ERA. Picture someone across the political aisle from you posting there. They wouldn't last one post.

Here you'll be able to make your case. Indeed, some members are aligned with you and do not shy away from expressing themselves. Know that you and everyone else has to defend their views rationally. Fallacies are usually called out, as they definitely should be.

Enjoy your time here.

Best wishes.

He believes that Reset has secured some kind of moral high ground despite all that, despite the staff-endorsed doxxing and driving people to suicide and all the rest that takes place over there, despite how poorly their own members are treated, despite the despicable manner in which the site was founded, and despite his own ousting.

 

[Brute]

My only negative about GAF - and for the record, as a newbie I'm enjoying this place a hella lot. You are some good eggs apart from a few who are fucking weirdos but you get that in every corner of the internet.

What was I saying? Yeah my only negative is that when I registered, it took fucking ages to get approved. I had to send two messages to the site as well. Then I gave up. And magically, one day, my registration was approved and...here I am.

So yes - for newcomers, the registration system needs to be actioned a little quicker or people will just go elsewhere.

 

[Fake]

Well this imo is why you see such as disconnect from people who post/posted there.

What is NeoGAF? A Gaming Forum/Discussion Board. What is Resetera? A place where...

The community at NeoGAF decides what it is about, incredibly fluid. The select few from Resetera decides what it is about. Now neither is right or wrong. It is just important to be upfront with the information. Resetera operates way more comparable to a Religion/Church than a open forum.

And being able to highlight critical issues isn't anything that isn't or can't be done anywhere else on the internet. However controlling the conversation isn't something anyone can do all over the internet.

100% this. And I must tell, I hate talking about politics, so I spend my time doing that on twitter instead of gaming forum.

What people don't get is this freedom bullshit.
The 'right' want freedom to speak, but don't want the oposite to do it.
The 'left' want freedom to speak, but don't want the oposite to do it.

What resetera need besides a nucler bomb is to be honest to their users and change the view of the site to a 'politic forum' instead of hiding inside the 'gaming community'.

 

[cormack12]

It takes a couple of weeks to make sure all the stalking is complete. Gaf registrations are like this nowadays when peopel escape reee

 

[DeadMansParty]

The site's owner should rename it PlayStationEra becaue the place is like it's sponsored by Sony Entertainment.

I've got a PS5 - I love it. But jesus over there they are obsessive about the console and it was the same with PS4. One person said the other day that he "can't stop just sitting and staring at his PS5".

It's like a forum populated by 12 year olds I swear to god.

There's that one guy who could suddenly afford $2500 for a new gaming set up after saying he said he hated being poor lol

 

[Buggy Loop]

I love this narrative that one day majority of GAFers were like "huh there's a new URL to type into my browser hmm guess I'll just roll with it because that's where all the discussion went" as if that's the only piece of knowledge they had prior to making the exodus to ResetERA.

I mean, even taking it at face value that doesn't sound like a crowd that will generate interesting conversation.

You're forgetting the part about the ban hammers and GAF being a lite version of what Era is today. Literal discussion about gamergate or Sarkassian or whatever the fucking drama was there in 2017, was side eyed and had warnings/bans.

I mean, i cannot find all the "story time" posts by EviLore , but at least a short one on the mods back then, should be enough to show why some users just went with the exodus for continuing discussions. And i guess for a while, it was fine until the insanity crept up on Era, while GAF got steered back by EviLore.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

You're forgetting the part about the ban hammers and GAF being a lite version of what Era is today. Literal discussion about gamergate or Sarkassian or whatever the fucking drama was there in 2017, was side eyed and had warnings/bans.

I'm not forgetting it at all. Which is why I cannot fathom why people followed that exact ideology over to ERA.

Or did I miss the early ERA threads where they said "finally! We can talk openly about what happened with Gamergate"?

I mean, i cannot find all the "story time" posts by EviLore , but at least a short one on the mods back then, should be enough to show why some users just went with the exodus for continuing discussions. And i guess for a while, it was fine until the insanity crept up on Era, while GAF got steered back by EviLore.

See above. The notion that ERA started off sane and slowly went off the rails is self-delusion.

 

[CaptainConlock]

A part of me really wants this Era bullshit to settle down so I can just chat in the PlayStation OT. The PS community's not nearly as active here as it is in Era and I always liked talking about the industry from Sony's perspective and what plans Sony has in store. GAF is great, but Era personally has a better PS community there. So I'll just wait until the whole TransEra group inevitably leaves and frequent there when the storm has calmed. I'll jump between here and there, provided my account hasn't been banned.

 

[dave_d]

Real warriors fight on the true frontlines of oppression--in CDPR threads! Using real weapons--their keyboards!

Wait a sec. Resetera hate that but are against Trump and pro Biden? I mean seriously?

 

[Gunslinger]

I think if people are allowed to speak their minds on era most posters ( 95% ) would turn out to be normal everyday people. When you ban lock threads because comparing pho and ramen is "problematic" then something is wrong. People over there just needs to chill, relax and enjoy life like 99% of people in this world do. Once you just enjoy life without worrying about everything else / or get offended at every little thing life becomes so much simpler. I wish all of them good health and happy life.

 

[Maiden Voyage]

You are some good eggs apart from a few who are fucking weirdos

Already ran into the foot fetish posters, huh?

 

[#Phonepunk#]

wow @ the guy who is a homewrecker fucking another man's wife while he is off serving his country. and he is mocking the man on a message board like a true socialists keyboard bitch! you have to be shitting me.

fuck that piece of shit to a million pieces. holy shit. never have i wanted to punch someone i didn't know so much.

 

[dave_d]

lord forbid you believe in law and order in 2020/2021

fuck 'em

Oh no, you're confused. They're totally for law and order...................as long as their side is in charge.

 

[CaptainConlock]

The constructive community thread is much less active now. People post only one comment every ten minutes instead of ten comments every minute.

 

[Barry Burton]

This post checks nearly every box on the ResetEra template:

Lack of real-world awareness. "Learned helplessness" ( ) on a video game forum.
"As a cis straight white dude..." I am an ally.
"MAGA chud" Black Chamber fooled the entire staff.
Stockholm Syndrome. "I fear being banned for this post, so I am aware that this place sucks. But please don't ban me, I want to stay!"

 

[Brute]

It takes a couple of weeks to make sure all the stalking is complete. Gaf registrations are like this nowadays when peopel escape reee

yeah I realise that now. I was told about GAF by someone on Reddit because I was fed up with how any post over there gets gobbled up quickly because it’s busy with Witcher 3 screenshots.

I didn’t know much about Era but now I know enough - and it’s a fucking asylum. I want to talk about games not trans issues and politics. And that’s when someone pointed me in this direction.

 

[EviLore]

My only negative about GAF - and for the record, as a newbie I'm enjoying this place a hella lot. You are some good eggs apart from a few who are fucking weirdos but you get that in every corner of the internet.

What was I saying? Yeah my only negative is that when I registered, it took fucking ages to get approved. I had to send two messages to the site as well. Then I gave up. And magically, one day, my registration was approved and...here I am.

So yes - for newcomers, the registration system needs to be actioned a little quicker or people will just go elsewhere.

It took you less than two weeks to get approved. Back in the day I would do account approvals in six month intervals.

 

[Brute]

It took you less than two weeks to get approved. Back in the day I would do account approvals in six month intervals.

Then please accept my apologies! I feel honored now

 

[Barry Burton]

The constructive community thread is much less active now. People post only one comment every ten minutes instead of ten comments every minute.

The admin strategy of staying silent and letting them scream and yell until they lose interest, leave and/or self-destruct seems to be working.

 

[BadBurger]

Look, I don't care about this franchise at all but right now it became my most awaited game ever just to see how RE psychos will deal with it.

*Kyuuji wheeled about suddenly, brandishing his 13" cherrywood wand, firm and hard as stone*

*The words of his incantation rang out* "Penisandscrotum!"

 

[The Evil Midnight Bomber]

Hey guys I’m back from playing one of the greatest games of all time!

So, what did I miss?

 

[Enzo88]

The constructive community thread is much less active now. People post only one comment every ten minutes instead of ten comments every minute.

That's not fun, Harry Potter can't come soon enough.

 

[Dorohedoro]

*Sigh*

 

[Enzo88]

*Sigh*

Dude thought he could reason with them. Btw when shit goes down, who are these people calling, Goku?

 

[Kayhan]

Hey guys I’m back from playing one of the greatest games of all time!

So, what did I miss?

Kyuuji, is that you?

 

[Charles Brandon]

*Sigh*

OMG!

 

[Kayhan]

It took you less than two weeks to get approved. Back in the day I would do account approvals in six month intervals.

You just admitted to being super lazy.

 

[teezzy]

The site's owner should rename it PlayStationEra becaue the place is like it's sponsored by Sony Entertainment.

I've got a PS5 - I love it. But jesus over there they are obsessive about the console and it was the same with PS4. One person said the other day that he "can't stop just sitting and staring at his PS5".

It's like a forum populated by 12 year olds I swear to god.

GAF's Sony bias is equally as blatant.

Speaking as a PC/Xbox guy, I'm proud to represent the outlier opinion in this community.

 

[kiryani]

So it’s a bannable offence to think that not every single cop on earth is a cunt

 

[Daffy Duck]

I swear dog whistle is their favourite phrase, everywhere I go, “this is a dog whistle”, “that’s a dog whistle”.

 

[Barry Burton]

They really do think "ACAB" is the majority opinion outside of their bubble.

 

[Dorohedoro]

Toxic overreactions like these are fine tho...

 

[Brute]

GAF's Sony bias is equally as blatant.

Speaking as a PC/Xbox guy, I'm proud to represent the outlier opinion in this community.

I haven’t noticed it at all but I’m new so I’m still green of course.

I loathe fanboy shit in any form.

 

[kiryani]

Imagine how quickly the average reee user would be onto the cops if presented with even the mildest threat

 

[Slurpy2k20]

Absolutely incredible. I've never even been given a rational REASON as to why I was banned. Some vague bullshit about "suspicious account", even though I had been on resetera for years and had never even heard of this place before I was banned. People get banned left and right without so much as a word of response from mods.

But now when an alleged trans user gets banned for some really nasty comments, the whole forum gets burned to the ground in rage, users get to tell mods to fuck off and that they're pedophiles, and the mods have to go on fucking trial on the user's banning? Because the user is apparently in an "oppressed class" on the forum, when its actually the very opposite?

How the fuck isn't is Crystal clear to everyone there that the damn place is held hostage to the "TransEra community" who seem to be insanely petulant, childish, vicious, ill-intentioned, vindictive, and just plain mean? It's mind-boggling.

 

[Master of Disguise]

They really do think "ACAB" is the majority opinion outside of their bubble.

They were absolutely livid when Nintendo added it to the banned words list.

 

[Rien]

I for one would welcome Hobbes back as well..

But for the love of god! Keep all the bullshit out man. This place is not a alt right, bigot, neo nazi safe place.. Not sure if you were the one who also spew that nonsense but tbh I don’t trust anyone from there. ‘Ya’ll’ set up so many people and bullied beyond reason.

And please keep the loonies away from here as well. We have a fine place with space for all sort of opinions.
Discus on a level of respect and don’t ban bait.
It gets moderated here when there is a valid reason..

Aside from that..

Welcome to the party pal.