Neff
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I agree, but it's probably gonna be Becky.
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I agree, but it's probably gonna be Becky.
Jawmuncher
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Yes all of them for that price together are worth it.
Really...Raccoon City?
Im a die hard RE fan and own everything on that sale....
except RE:ORC.
dont support bad games.
Jawmuncher
Member
Damage is done. It's worth taking a look at and playing on easy. Had good ideas but some dumb decisions ruined. Also I bought like 4 copies of that game. I think we already got what was coming next after ORC, which is Unbrella Corps. Don't see Capcom doing anything with ORC and western devs ever again.
Shame since the idea of the game itself is something I wanted ever since playing RE3.
So this is all your fault!
Nice concept, but it completely failed it's execution..in every shape and form.
I gotta say, the combat mechanics look interesting in Umbrella Corps, even though it hurts that it's an actual RE game.
I'm playing Umbrella right now, is bloody hard even on Easy. The crappy thing is, in order to unlock all scenarios, you NEED to get A rank on some of them.
Dragon1893
Member
The 20th anniversary theme makes me not want to leave the PS4's OS, dat safe room theme..
Theanine3D
Member
As a big fan of 1-3, I didn't find 5 scary in the slightest but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have fun with it. It was an enjoyable action-packed third person shooter.
Also the Revelations games are still great and somewhat scary, to a lesser degree than 1-4 but much moreso than 5 and 6.
Future PhaZe
Member
resident evil x dark souls could be a nice route for the series moving forward
Nothing did it for me not even Revelations :/. I hope they don't fuck up REmake 2. I have high hopes ;_;.
Theanine3D
Member
Me too (with regard to Remake 2, I mean. I loved Revelations)
I think one thing the Revelations games failed to recapture from the old games is the exploration factor. They still use the same linear chapter system that RE4 introduced, something I'll never forgive that game for.
At a time when more and more open-world exploration-focused games were starting to come out, Capcom did the complete opposite with the RE series. Kind of interesting. With even the Zelda series going open-world now, I wonder if Capcom might ever be compelled to do an exploration-based game again that isn't a remake. (Not holding my breath) Maybe they think Dead Rising does that well enough already.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
There is literally not a Resident Evil game I have played I haven't enjoyed to some degree. Even my least favorite RE game (which currently stands as the second Gun Survivor game, personally) I still think is okay. That's not to say that I would recommend every RE game, or put them in the same league, but I think people put to much hypocrisy in calling things terrible if it's not in some elite few 'best of' collection, or maybe I'm a broader more open-minded gamer than most. I personally have found every game in the series has given me much enjoyment, and for the post-RE4 question, I consider RE5 to be one of the best co-op campaign games I have played, find RE6 to have some great highs at parts (and subjectively my favorite form of Mercenaries), and I really enjoyed Revelations 2, the Chronicles games were fun, and the first Revelations was okay.
My two cents, at least. I can understand those who's personal tastes gear more towards the older titles and have a distaste for the newer ones, and as a horror ethusiast I obviously will have preference to horror titles, but I most certainly do think the series is quite fun, and for all the people that complain about it, I think the RE series creates a certain type of campaign game style that I personally enjoy I haven't found quite as successfully recreated elsewhere that does appeal to my personal tastes.
My two cents, at least. I can understand those who's personal tastes gear more towards the older titles and have a distaste for the newer ones, and as a horror ethusiast I obviously will have preference to horror titles, but I most certainly do think the series is quite fun, and for all the people that complain about it, I think the RE series creates a certain type of campaign game style that I personally enjoy I haven't found quite as successfully recreated elsewhere that does appeal to my personal tastes.
To be honest, I like 5 and 6 despite their flaws. Neither of them were going to replicate or one-up RE4, and they mostly did their own thing instead. Resident Evil 6 in particular works for me as a cheesy little action movie-game with plenty of dumb moments but an enjoyable variety of gameplay that often gets overlooked. As for Revelations, I still haven't finished 2, but the first game is still a mixed bag for me. Gameplay-wise, it was fine, but the story and several of the design choices in-games teeter-tottered between "decent" and "awful". Parker is still awesome, though (please let him come back, Capcom :c).
Makes me wonder now, what's everyone's thoughts on Degeneration and Damnation? Looking back, neither of them were outstanding, but they had their moments.
Makes me wonder now, what's everyone's thoughts on Degeneration and Damnation? Looking back, neither of them were outstanding, but they had their moments.
Thay only happen in B scenario.
Novum_Veritas
Member
Only happens in the B scenarios.
So how do A/B scenarios work? If I just did Claire A, what can I expect in Leon B?
This game is fantastic, btw. I went into the G3 battle with four first aid kits and like 50+ grenade shells, and had like 12 ink ribbons left. Not a scary game at all, but very fun, aside from escorting Sherry (worse than any escorts in modern-day RE).
Novum_Veritas
Member
Leon B / Claire B has Mr X, and the routes and item locations are different in the RPD.
End game doesn't cut off when you are watching the FMV in the train.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Revelations 1 is weird for me. I liked it, and when I played it I enjoyed it, but I've gotten a bit less fond of it with time when comparing it to other recent RE's. I am not sure I enjoyed it more or less than most people because my first blind playthrough for the game was with the HD version on Infernal difficulty. This said, I did enjoy Revelations 2 a lot more, opposite scenario where during the first episode I wasn't quite sure how I felt fully, liked it more as each episode passed, and I've come to like it more as time has gone on.
Degeneration & Damnation feel like RE stories in film form, so I consider that successful. I go with the opinion Damnation was much better than Degeneration, better pacing, while honkier/cheesier it was more entertaining for it I feel, better atmosphere scenes, action scenes, etc. Neither film is outstanding, but I think they are the only video game film I can think of off the top that actually feels like the games they're spun-off from, and think fans will enjoy them well enough (I assume if a fan goes in to see a Resident Evil CG movie, they're probably expecting something like Resident Evil, which the films are, so).
This said, the films did have some more serious problems. Degeneration & Damnation had worse 3D modeling/animation that Resident Evil 5/Resident Evil 6, which is... Questionable. I also think it's a good thing for the third CG Resident Evil film they've changed animation studios, are aiming to make a more 'stand-alone zombie horror' type of movie (to paraphrase it in my own wording), and to hire some outside talent for it (some of the talent, like Kenji Kawai and Takashi Shimizu, are a bit exciting.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Some new areas you didn't visit (I won't spoil where, but there's a few areas only Leon/Claire visit), Mr. X magic, you go through RPD Police Station in a different way and collect key items elsewhere, some of the bosses are completely different, etc. Some things you did in A scenario will effect B scenario, some big differences between Leon & Claire's campaign, and some changes and additions between the A/B scenarios. It's definitely worth playing through RE2 again through a B scenario though (especially as RE2 isn't all that long, honestly).
EDIT: Oops, meant to edit this to my previous post. Oh well.
Yeah, I'm eager to try Leon B. I wonder if the two-fingerprint machine in the lab requires both scenarios.
The same story from Leon's perspective, Gameplay-wise there are slightly different items layout, you enter the RPD differently (from the west wing) and thus you do some objectives in different order than in the A scenario, you are being chased by Mr. X, you fight with different forms of Birkin and have at least two additional boss fights.
Also, few things you did in the A scenario affects the B scenario (the item you left in the locker, what shutters you decided to lock, whether or not you decided to release the P-Epsilon gas).
Yes, you need to use the fingerprint machine in both scenarios to be able to access it in scenario B.
Escorting Sherry is annoying since she's very slow and if you leave her behind too far, she stops in place and sits there until you return for her. And you can't leave the room if she's not near you. So when you're escorting Sherry you have to do this weird run-stop motion - to both make Sherry run instead of walk and to not get too far ahead from her.
At least she can't die (at least I haven't witnessed that in my many playthroughs).
OK, I used the fingerprint machine with Claire, so it should be ready for Leon.
As for the other decisions:
- Closed the shutter in the basement
- Did NOT use the gas
- Left the machine gun for Leon
Good.
Using the gas makes the A scenario easier (IIRC it kills some of the enemies in the lab) but also makes the B scenario harder (all plant-enemies become poisonous).
Novum_Veritas
Member
Good to know actually, never knew what the gas did, so I always pressed it in the A scenario.
Jawmuncher
Member
Poison never actually kills you in any of the RE games right? Just takes you to critical after some time?
Novum_Veritas
Member
Yes and also hides your real health status, can be crucial in RE 1 because there was no limping mechanic in this one.
I find it interesting how RE2 isn't scary at all, or at least, Claire Scenario A wasn't scary. Maybe Leon Scenario B will be scary.
I actually think there are moments in RE4/RE5/RE6 that are scarier than anything in RE2. Although REmake is still the scariest one I've played, by far.
I will say the spiders in RE2 are tricky, but there are only like four of them across two hallways, and you could avoid them if you want. The spiders are much more interesting here than they were in REmake.
At any rate, scary or no, I think RE2 is great fun the way it is. Personally, I'm not much in the mood for a stressful game, so I'm glad RE2 is so lighthearted. I'm just a bit surprised, given how some fans act like the old-school RE titles are so much scarier than the new ones.
I actually think there are moments in RE4/RE5/RE6 that are scarier than anything in RE2. Although REmake is still the scariest one I've played, by far.
I will say the spiders in RE2 are tricky, but there are only like four of them across two hallways, and you could avoid them if you want. The spiders are much more interesting here than they were in REmake.
At any rate, scary or no, I think RE2 is great fun the way it is. Personally, I'm not much in the mood for a stressful game, so I'm glad RE2 is so lighthearted. I'm just a bit surprised, given how some fans act like the old-school RE titles are so much scarier than the new ones.
Theanine3D
Member
Agreed on the bold.
And I loved both CG films. Leon's sassy attitude in the second one was great. Getting tired of Leon being the lead in everything, though, to be quite honest. The guy could use a vacation anyway.
RE2 was the first game I played in the series, and I found it very scary, wouldn't have gotten into the series otherwise. Although I was like 10 at the time of my first playthrough, I still find everything about the game to satisfy my horror itch. The general tone of the game, via the environments, music, etc., is very dark and foreboding in a way RE5 and 6 weren't. I mean, RE5 had you out in the sunny outdoors much of the time.
Novum_Veritas
Member
Well RE 2 was never scary to me, it had great music and atmosphere though.
Old-school RE games were only scary the 1st time because of the unknown,
the fixed camera angles contributed to that. Today I'm replaying all RE games
without anything scary about them, only RE which I was scared of was RE1 on PS1,
but that was because I was 10 years old.
Jawmuncher
Member
When I was younger I watched my friends brother was playing some RE2 on N64. I remember telling my friend "this game is gonna get scary we should go". Did start playing RE until 3 when my dad let me get a hold of his older games. Even though I had been playing plenty of Dino crisis before then lol.
I don't think I want RE to be an open-world game. Maybe a spin-off, yes, but not the main game. A bigger location that you gradually unlock over time like the Spencer Estate or RPD? Yes. But not your typical open world with objective/mission-based gameplay structure (think GTA, Dead Rising, MGS5).
Also, weird thing I noticed in RE5 LiN and the 4th episode of Revelations 2 (the mini-mansion at the end of Barry's episode): I don't really like exploration and backtracking in new Resident Evil games. I don't mind it in older titles, but it really bothered me in both those cases. I found it kind of annoying.
That's adorable. I picture Kid Jawmuncher, with his overalls and propellor cap, turning to his friend and saying "This game is gonna get scary we should go!" And then jumping out the second-story window like Leon at the start of RE4.
That's adorable. I picture Kid Jawmuncher, with his overalls and propellor cap, turning to his friend and saying "This game is gonna get scary we should go!" And then jumping out the second-story window like Leon at the start of RE4.
I had a hat like that.
difference in purpose + setting stuff- the core gameplay structure in old RE is ultimately built around backtracking/exploring to scrounge resources/progress w key items so it feels a lot more natural while modern RE stuff is built more in straight line w/ slight deviation stuff- there might be some exploration but it's bare and there is definitely very little backtracking barring stuff that forces it
because the modern REs are built around that 'go forward' action basis that forced backtracking that feels like a natural extension of your gameplay goal
the setting stuff is just the detail+tone that is created in old REs that isn't found in the new games backtracking sections/in general. you don't get a strong sense of 'place' as much as the mansion or raccoon city
edit:
also like i posted earlier, an 'open world RE' is effectively dead rising in terms of modernizing the most important aspects of it. at least, DR1 is, haha.
Fancy Clown
Member
Yeah people always think I'm crazy for saying RE4 is one of the scarier RE games (not that it scares me any more) but I think the two Mikami games are the best at building tension and horrifying atmosphere. Nemesis is pretty panic inducing though at times.
That being said, RE2 has the best jump scares in the series. It is so good at setting them and using them in creative ways. Like the hands through the boarded up winows when you backtrack (making the backgrounds AND previously thought safe areas nerve wracking), the swarm of zombies in one of the door opening animations (something that never happens anywhere else in the series or game to my knowledge), or making you walk past the dog cages that you just know are gonna break open. There are also a couple really fun ones in the B scenario.
It has few jump scares but it's not really much more scary than the A scenario.
RE2 isn't really scary because aside from bosses maybe enhanced lickers in the lab, enemies aren't really that dangerous (at least on Normal). You have plenty of ammo and even if the game throws a lot of enemies at you, it still gives you a way to escape them easily (the horde in the west wing corridor).
For me, even the RPD doesn't feel as dangerous as the Spencer's Estate (both RE1 and REmake version). It's atmospheric, but not really dangerous.
IIRC you can easily maneuver spiders in RE2 so they can barely even hurt you. In both places they are in all you have to do is to run forward (the corridor before the first Birkin/G-embrio fight) or run forward while zig-zagging a little to not get spit on (the sewers).
And I disagree, REmake spiders are better, specifically because you can see how hairy (and thus more disgusting) they are.
Novum_Veritas
Member
No bonus afaik, so go ahead buying it for 8 bucks.
Charlouie Jonesman
Banned
Maybe it's just my german nature, I mean, when violent video games and movies would get banned left and right, especially all those old zombie movies, that just makes them more appealing, the forbidden fruit. I was in it first and foremost for the gore, when Barry popped the first zombie's head, the reaction of 10 year old me was "Awesome!".
The second game was even better in that regard. Even as a kid I never found the games scary though, including the first one, I just wanted to pop zombie heads.
The games made good use of jump scares, but that's not really scary, despite the name, and they were especially good about creating tension through gameplay. RE4 still managed that at times, especially that dude that hunts you in the sewers, I forgot his name. Szalazar's right hand. But anyway, the were never legit Silent Hill-style scary to me.
The second game was even better in that regard. Even as a kid I never found the games scary though, including the first one, I just wanted to pop zombie heads.
The games made good use of jump scares, but that's not really scary, despite the name, and they were especially good about creating tension through gameplay. RE4 still managed that at times, especially that dude that hunts you in the sewers, I forgot his name. Szalazar's right hand. But anyway, the were never legit Silent Hill-style scary to me.
Fancy Clown
Member
Yeah they aren't trully scary because there's nothing actually unsettling about them. They are B-horror monster flicks basically. Silent Hill is disturbing on a psychological level and therefor the scares it creates are far more pervasive and unsettling than the fleeting adrenaline fueld shocks that RE employs.
So, completed Umbrella Chronicles, with all scenarios done except the special one (I tried it once, died on stage 4, quitted).
The game overall is pretty good, but:
-easy should be easy. It's not. The boss in the last stage is almost impossible, because the final level itself is bloody hard, and the section right before the boss (and the first form of the boss too) forces you to basically spend a lot of your SMG ammo. So you risk to end up with nothing in the second form of the boss. You also NEED an healing spry, because you WILL take damage, no matter how good you are with QTE, because between rocks and tentacles if you have just a few SMG ammo, you are done.
-the "plot"....well, it's basically Re0+1+3.
But RE3 is butchered. There are missing characters like Burton in RE1, in RE3 Jill meet Carlos as soon as you start the scenario. I liked the subscenario a lot, probably more than the "base" game itself. I was really excited when I saw
-the gameplay...well, I like this gameplay, but I think you NEED a Move because I'm not comfortable with the aim quality provided using a DS3. Doing critical hits is a pain in the ass.
Now, a question: I don't know if I should start Darkside Chronicles now or going with Code Veronica X. I already played the original CV on Dreamcast, so I'm not too excited to play it again, while I never played Darkside.
But...I want an "easy" experience: is Darkside hard like Umbrella? If I'll go with very easy difficulty, can I unlock all scenarios?
On PSN EU the collection is actually cheaper than buying each game separately. On PSN US....Sony screwed up
The game overall is pretty good, but:
-easy should be easy. It's not. The boss in the last stage is almost impossible, because the final level itself is bloody hard, and the section right before the boss (and the first form of the boss too) forces you to basically spend a lot of your SMG ammo. So you risk to end up with nothing in the second form of the boss. You also NEED an healing spry, because you WILL take damage, no matter how good you are with QTE, because between rocks and tentacles if you have just a few SMG ammo, you are done.
-the "plot"....well, it's basically Re0+1+3.
But RE3 is butchered. There are missing characters like Burton in RE1, in RE3 Jill meet Carlos as soon as you start the scenario. I liked the subscenario a lot, probably more than the "base" game itself. I was really excited when I saw
Ada's scenario, thinking I would finally know how she survived. Well, of course the game explains you NOTHING about this, starting right after the "end" of RE2, when she gave the Rocket Launcher to Leon/Claire.
Now, a question: I don't know if I should start Darkside Chronicles now or going with Code Veronica X. I already played the original CV on Dreamcast, so I'm not too excited to play it again, while I never played Darkside.
But...I want an "easy" experience: is Darkside hard like Umbrella? If I'll go with very easy difficulty, can I unlock all scenarios?
On PSN EU the collection is actually cheaper than buying each game separately. On PSN US....Sony screwed up
I enjoy them for what they are.
Yes, the mystery and horror aspect aren't there anymore, but overall the games still have some redeeming qualities. I replayed RE 5 last year (Never played Gold Edition) and I enjoyed it more than when I originally played it. I guess the first time around I compared it way too hard with RE 4 and that clouded my judgement. I still think the campaign wasn't as tight as 4, but enjoyable. Still don't like the co-op focus. I know loads of folks appreciate the game because of it, but RE 5 marked the death of the lone wolf RE adventure. Regarding 6... it's my least favourite mainline game. However it's such a fascinating game to analyze! There are good parts, mediocre parts, bad parts... really, really bad parts but still interresting.
As for the Revelations games, they're neat. I prefer Revelations on 3DS though (console version is nerfed) and Revelations 2 is neat as a complete game; stand alone episodes feel oddly detached.
the atmosphear alone is way more hounting.
playing 4 or 5 is no different from playing anyother shooter.
where are the next victims to shoot??
RSB
Banned
I'm one of those lucky people who happen to love both classic and action RE, so yeah.
In fact, I don't think there's ever been a mainline RE game I haven't at least liked. Even the Revelations games, with their "middle ground" approach (which I find quite lacking when compared to either style) are still very enjoyable.
Unlike UC, there are no bonus scenarios in DSC. You just have one lenghty campaign divided into 3 scenarios.
As for difficulty, I only played the game on Normal mode, once, and beat it in two evenings. The game isn't that difficult, although some boss battles can be quite annoying since they can be long and heavily scripted (during the first Birkin fight, for example, I depleted his health quity quickly but the fight went on for few minutes because the game had to do the whole scripted sequence).
I've been with the series since year one on PC (so year two on consoles
) and I can't say I really dislike any of the games I've played (thankfully I omitted the stinkers like Survivor 2 and ORC). Sure, there are some games that I like less (much less), but I still don't consider them terrible games.That said, when RE4 came out I had a little "crisis". I hated the game for its action-first approach, for the stupid plot, for ditching zombies etc. But when I finally played it - well, it was quite a ride.