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RESISTANCE 2 - Hype Thread w/latest info
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shagg_187 said:(Disclaimer. I wrote a long-ass post and i accidentally the whole message!!! Rewriting.)
In that section, the wave of chimeras will keep on flooding in unless the Titan is killed. The wave will stop for a minute or two if you kill alot of them but they'll be back.
Though i have played (and love) co-op more than competitive at this point, you are right. The co-op is chaos but things can be fixed with simple solutions. Let me suggest some from the top of my head:
- Fix the dumb AI. I have played the single player campaigns and the AI is freaking amazing! I'm sure the same AI coding is used for multiplayer. It's not that the AI is dumb, its just that they tend to freeze at times and look at the wrong direction unless they are shot at and woken up again. Knowing that chimeras have more eyes than humans, they shouldn't demonstrate anything less than 120 degrees of arc. They should also know when they are facing a wall, so they don't tend to look at the wrong direction. At one point in the co-op, the titan got stuck and was facing the wall. He turned back only when someone came really close to him, making the melee animation kick in, which resulted in him turning around.
-The co-op feels VERY scripted. Once again, I have played the single-player campaign and yes, even though the co-op is far more open and will be forced to be more scripted due to the amount of players, it should be tweaked a little. During the "titan on the hill" battle (as mentioned above by Baha), at times you see Chimeras spawning at a spawn point that is on our back. To justify this "error", they try to run and meet up with the other chimeras on screen (i.e. ahead of us). Doing so causes them to run past humans without even worrying. The sequence/trigger can only be disrupted if you shoot at them. This can be avoided fairly easily and can have alot of positive results.
- When facing bosses like Stalkers and Titans, i have seen a small meter on top of their health. To be honest, I really don't know if it's an HP bar or an XP bar. Whatever it is, it should be more obvious. If it really is a health bar, then they should adopt a "Street Fighter"-ish bar with mix of yellow/red colors just like the way humans do. Either that or they should adopt a numbering system (for example, 5645/8000). If possible, why not both? The health bar should highlight when you are far from the boss and the numbers should highlight when you are upclose to a boss. If it's not health bar, please tell me what it is for i can't really tell if it's increase or decreasingIf it's NOT a health bar, then i think the bosses need one.
- Not alot of people tend to use headsets. Why not give everyone 4 (or 8) simple presets? Simple presets like "Medic!", "I need Ammo!", "Take cover!", "Everyone stick together!", "Don't die on me!" can be VERY helpful during combat. They can be easily mainpulated in the controls too (e.g. holding Select will pop out the preset screen. The analog sticks and triggers will still function as normal, giving players the ability to run and shoot or hide.. but D-pads and face buttons will work as preset dialogues. User can choose which preset they want by going to options. Pressing select will resume normal game). Games like MGO and SOCOM demonstrate these brilliantly even though they can live without them. In my opinion, Resistance 2 co-op (and competitive) needs this since the maps are bigger and meaner than before. I'm sure keyboard support is again available in R2, making things simpler but for people without it, preset dialogues would help.
IMO, the co-op is an RPG shooter and i love it! It's fucking amazing and a great addition to Resistance but a few tweaks here and there can make this experience a memorable moment.
Agreed on all points, especially the bolded parts. While it's not perfect, Insomniac has created a very addictive and fun online mode. I would personally like to see more classes in the future and maybe some power-ups to make things interesting (health packs, ammo, cloak, increased str or def).
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I've not played competitive that much to know it but in co-op, it's not. The reason is because the chimeras in co-op have more HP than usual. If i remember correctly, it is one-hit-kill in single-player.pistolpete2940 said:
pistolpete2940
Member
Are melee moves not one hit kills anymore????
I really cant enjoy this game for some reason, its just not fun. Im guessing its because im not used to console FPS's. Coming from playing alot of TF2 on the PC, this just feels so bad. Aiming feels so disconnected, its floaty, turning is too slow and it just makes me want to pull my hair out.
I havent tried co-op yet, since i dont have a headset i figured it might be a waste of time.
I applaud those who can actually control console fps games, you are all gods in my eyes.
Will continue to play it while the beta is still on, so far it hasnt impressed me.
I havent tried co-op yet, since i dont have a headset i figured it might be a waste of time.
I applaud those who can actually control console fps games, you are all gods in my eyes.
Will continue to play it while the beta is still on, so far it hasnt impressed me.
DeathNote said:
Because i just entered next gen a few weeks ago with my PS3, and i wanted it for other games apart from just FPS's.
It's just something i will need to get used to. Also playing through uncharted now and the shooting feels odd to me in that. So hopefully i can get used to how aiming / shooting is done on consoles for R2/KZ2 and anything else that pops up.
xS1TH L0RDx
Banned
just finished downloading and played my first match on Orick.
WHAT A MAP! i loved it. so far first match i played was an absolute blast!
i'll probably get flamed for this but i had more fun in the one match of r2 i just played than all of the lbp beta.
WHAT A MAP! i loved it. so far first match i played was an absolute blast!
i'll probably get flamed for this but i had more fun in the one match of r2 i just played than all of the lbp beta.
overthehill99
Member
I still haven't got my Qore code yet. What should I do?
Rapping Granny
Banned
Can someone share the R2 love with me? I still has not got beta key from ebgames.
okay wtf
WHY if you are in a lobby with someone in a party you can quit the lobby and not be able to get back in??? I'm in a party with my friend right now and i'm in his lobby and it will not let me back into his game
and it keeps saying he has no permission to join me WTFFFF
WHY if you are in a lobby with someone in a party you can quit the lobby and not be able to get back in??? I'm in a party with my friend right now and i'm in his lobby and it will not let me back into his game
and it keeps saying he has no permission to join me WTFFFF
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
Y2Kev said:
Beta --- still fixing lobby bugs and such
Metalmurphy
Member
I just had the weirdest thing happen to me on a co-op game. I was playing with industrian, viper9 and a few other people and all of the sudden all the Chimera froze. They still had some animations but they wouldn't move or fire, they didn't loose HP either yet we still won XP from shooting at them. We started to gather XP for a good 5 minutes and all of the sudden they all wake up at the same time :lol
Needless to say we all died in like 2 seconds except industrian that ran away and was able to hide.
Awesome!
Needless to say we all died in like 2 seconds except industrian that ran away and was able to hide.
Awesome!
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
evlcookie said:
Ironically, it was Resistance 1 that made me "learn" how to use analog sticks in a FPS. Before that I was primarily a PC gamer, and it was rough trying to get used to a controller after your brain becomes too familiar to WASD and mouse.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
Metalmurphy said:
That was FUCKING AWESOME. It was like some shit out of Aliens. All the Chimera suddenly "switched on" and our entire team got slaughtered except for me (Invisibility FTW).
Weird fucking glitch though. I think that a player joining "switched on" the Chimera.
Gbeav said:
Skrimish isn't so bad when you follow the objectives, it has the impression that the mayhem IS controlled.
Team deathmatch on the other hand, I can't stay for more than 10 seconds in a game without tossing a controller. I think 99% of my deaths are the result of people spawning behind me.
DrPirate said:
Well I'm glad I'm not the only one. I tried t switch to sniper because 1/2 the other team was in the 40 person game I was in and I think I lasted less than that hehe.
Being on fire is quite irritating also and you don't have a clue if you are being shot or on the bbq.
Ok. I just played pretty much all day. Split Screen Coop. Kind of irritating that there is no option to replay the level if you both die. It kicks you all the way back out to the main screen. Im sure there will be that option later.
Also i think this has been talked about already but please make split screen coop...full screen!!
It was odd that the bigger Chimera don't really react unless they see you. You could go to town all day on their elbows and legs from around a corner. Also the bigger Steelheads would just keep walking into walls.
The Medic gun is so awesome. It might be a little too powerful in my opinion. It would be cool to be able to link more than 2 guys together if they are bunched up but make it become less powerful.
Drones could be a little faster. They kind of just hover around.
Really digging it though!! Cannot wait for the full game!! I was excited before but now i'm REALLY excited.
Also i think this has been talked about already but please make split screen coop...full screen!!
It was odd that the bigger Chimera don't really react unless they see you. You could go to town all day on their elbows and legs from around a corner. Also the bigger Steelheads would just keep walking into walls.
The Medic gun is so awesome. It might be a little too powerful in my opinion. It would be cool to be able to link more than 2 guys together if they are bunched up but make it become less powerful.
Drones could be a little faster. They kind of just hover around.
Really digging it though!! Cannot wait for the full game!! I was excited before but now i'm REALLY excited.
evlcookie said:
I used to have problems with console fps games. Ironically it was an old PC habit that made things difficult for me. Inverting the analog stick and inverting the mouse aren't the same thing so when I finally left it on default, I found I could aim better. From there it was just practice.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Metalmurphy said:
Weirdly, medics have an ability to paralyze creatures though it causes them to lose HP which is not what you are mentioning. As i mentioned before, there are alot of freezing issues with creatures and it's definitely not lag.
That said, i love berserks!
rollingstart
Banned
So, in the final game can I actually join someone's party or do they still need to invite me?
Corran Horn
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I always fail trying to get into ranked matches during the search :/ bummer
Metalmurphy
Member
Yeah but these were all monsters in the entire map. Even titans. And does that ability even work? I haven't but I've never been able to paralyse anyone.shagg_187 said:
I am loving this.
30 on 30 is crazy...and you have to expect that...the maps are big enough to avoid contact (i actually couldn't find anyone and suddenly about 20 soldiers come over a hill and obliterate me :lol ), but once the 60 people figure where the action is..OH MY GOD
Smaller sized skirmishes actually allow for tactical play.
I love the weapons, each so unique, the grenade launcher needs some viagra though...its a bit limp in the length department.
Graphics are excellent, controls are tight, gameplay is so smooth and voice is clear.
Can't wait to see single player graphics!
30 on 30 is crazy...and you have to expect that...the maps are big enough to avoid contact (i actually couldn't find anyone and suddenly about 20 soldiers come over a hill and obliterate me :lol ), but once the 60 people figure where the action is..OH MY GOD
Smaller sized skirmishes actually allow for tactical play.
I love the weapons, each so unique, the grenade launcher needs some viagra though...its a bit limp in the length department.
Graphics are excellent, controls are tight, gameplay is so smooth and voice is clear.
Can't wait to see single player graphics!
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Metalmurphy said:
It does. I always save it for them zombies (or whatever you call them
).
Stillmatic
Member
This is for New Zealand residents only (they check your IP), but NZGamer are giving away 110 beta codes tomorrow, and another 190 later on.
http://nzgamer.com/ps3/competitions/25/win-the-resistance-2-beta.html
http://nzgamer.com/ps3/competitions/25/win-the-resistance-2-beta.html
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
JB1981 said:
Get to the Hilltop with that big ass giant boss and try it there, thats some hard ass shit, i was a medic and had to revive about 20 dudes in that one area, still didnt finish it.
Erm, for splitscreen online co-op, do the stats/level for the 2nd player save? I see it doesn't use 1p's stats, and I can't actually log a second account in. Does player 2 always start as a clean slate, or will it actually save data from my main account for the 2nd player somehow?
Also, how many variations to the co-op objectives does the beta have? I think I've had two different sets of 3 objectives so far, though I may be wrong.
Also, how many variations to the co-op objectives does the beta have? I think I've had two different sets of 3 objectives so far, though I may be wrong.
Stillmatic
Member
sun-drop said:
You're from Wellington? Check 5 posts above yours.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
Ploid 3.0 said:
Spec Ops. You get it quite easily (level 2, 3 or 4).
TheFreshPrince
Junior Member
anyone else playing co-op with just 2 players? it is really hard! i wish there was some checkpoint system or save system...it sucks having to start over