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[patsu]

Probably because they are measuring the non-repeated length so you know side missions are played or not, during discussion.

But for money's worth discussion, this number is not accurate at all since it doesn't count the actual play through time and *drum roll* the whole entire freaking MP time.

 

[Y2Kev]

Who cares about length? You all need to get another job.

 

[spats]

Who cares about length? You all need to get another job.

That's what she said.

I really wouldn't call this a short game. It's a very varied and exciting campaign in my opinion. People nowdays get too obsessed with one hour here or there. I understand wanting to get your money's worth out of a product but bitching about a game being half an hour too long or too short is getting pretty ridiculous.

 

[Melchiah]

Who cares about length? You all need to get another job.

Well, it's a concern to us who care far more about the SP side than the MP one.

 

[patsu]

The enemy AI and replay experience will help. If the AI is aggressive and smart, a different play through even on the same difficulty should be different. That number doesn't really measure your "enjoyment time" regardless. There are skills gap, and different weapon use -- thanks to the wheel. I remember replaying selected levels in RFOM repeatedly using different weapons.

 

[Steve McQueen]

Just finished R2. The beginning of the game was kinda meh, but things started to get better at the Chicago level. From that level I enjoyed it quite a bit. Puzzles me how the average of R2 rating is higher than R1 though.

Anyway, I'm ready for part 3 and while part 2 was not that great, I'm glad I played it because I wanted to know how the story continued

 

[Ashes]

Just finished R2. The beginning of the game was kinda meh, but things started to get better at the Chicago level. From that level I enjoyed it quite a bit. Puzzles me how the average of R2 rating is higher than R1 though.

Anyway, I'm ready for part 3 and while part 2 was not that great, I'm glad I played it because I wanted to know how the story continued

How long did it take to finish?

Spoiler

don't answer I'm only kidding.

 

[Loudninja]

That's what she said.

I really wouldn't call this a short game. It's a very varied and exciting campaign in my opinion. People nowdays get too obsessed with one hour here or there. I understand wanting to get your money's worth out of a product but bitching about a game being half an hour too long or too short is getting pretty ridiculous.

That is the way it should be.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

After playing the beta for 2 hours today, i have to say that the Bullseye is the greatest weapon of any shooter i played. I love this weapon.

 

[RoboPlato]

After playing the beta for 2 hours today, i have to say that the Bullseye is the greatest weapon of any shooter i played. I love this weapon.

Bullseye + Gunslinger caused my K/D to immediately triple. I love the R3 Bullseye.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

Bullseye + Gunslinger caused my K/D to immediately triple. I love the R3 Bullseye.

The thing i love most about Insomniac is that they make creative and fun weapons. There are like 3-4 new weapons in R3.

 

[Zoibie]

The thing i love most about Insomniac is that they make creative and fun weapons. There are like 3-4 new weapons in R3.

Yup. Using the Mutator in Chain Reaction when there are 4 or 5 guys huddled in the same spot is just bliss.

 

[Loudninja]

Yup. Using the Mutator in Chain Reaction when there are 4 or 5 guys huddled in the same spot is just bliss.

Yes best new weapon so far for me, although I love the Atomizer, its more of single player weapon to me.

 

[harriet the spy]

Well, it's a concern to us who care far more about the SP side than the MP one.

I am on the 'caring more about SP side', but I much prefer short, varied and well-made SP than long, drawn-out ones.

 

[French]

Deaths are not inclueded in this time so it probably is about 8 hours which is totally fine. That said, I'm not buying games at RRP anyway anymore. It's just too much money.

Same for me.

Earlier this year I had a list of games that I was going to buy new but each one of them has disappointed me.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

I am glad the Splicer is not part of the arsenal. I hated that weapon.

 

[TheExecutive]

Actually why isn't this the case?, surely it's beneficial that the actual playtime should include deaths/retries? would look better on paper for Insomniac also as it would make the game seem longer.

I was thinking this too. Why wouldn't you include deaths? I mean you are playing while dying right?

 

[patsu]

Just finished R2. The beginning of the game was kinda meh, but things started to get better at the Chicago level. From that level I enjoyed it quite a bit. Puzzles me how the average of R2 rating is higher than R1 though.

Anyway, I'm ready for part 3 and while part 2 was not that great, I'm glad I played it because I wanted to know how the story continued

R2 has much higher production value and more stuff to do than RFOM. Co-op is unique.

I remember in the early days, there were much negative feelings about PS3, and some thought that RFOM is generic.

In any case, both are Greatest Hits games. Personally I think if they had delayed the game by a few months, the reception amongst old fans would be very different. It just needs a few tweaks and better monster interaction.

 

[patsu]

Bullseye + Gunslinger caused my K/D to immediately triple. I love the R3 Bullseye.

Same here. First time I used it, it felt like I was a hot knife cutting through enemies like butter.

These days Atomizer and Mutator have deciding advantages at close distance, but it's a 50/50 chance at mid range for me ( if I don't run towards them in the skirmish >_< )

 

[Steve McQueen]

R2 has much higher production value and more stuff to do than RFOM. Co-op is unique.

Just by looking at the menu ( Hale looks fugly ) I must say I think RFOM has the better production values. But you're right R2 has more content.

 

[patsu]

Yap, RFOM has higher "art" IMHO too, but R2 simply had much bigger and more of everything. In particular, colors in R2 confuses me.

 

[patsu]

I am glad the Splicer is not part of the arsenal. I hated that weapon.

Which one is the Splicer ? I only remember the Splitter, which I can't use effectively at all.

 

[Loudninja]

Which one is the Splicer ? I only remember the Splitter, which I can't use effectively at all.

The one that shoot saw blades didn't really like it, wasn't all that useful same with the Bellock.

 

[RoboPlato]

The one that shoot saw blades didn't really like it, wasn't all that useful same with the Bellock.

The Bellock was amazing against Titans. 3 hits and they were done. There was also alway one around when you fought them. Most people never found them though. Saved my ass so many times on Superhuman.

 

[Y2Kev]

Just by looking at the menu ( Hale looks fugly ) I must say I think RFOM has the better production values. But you're right R2 has more content.

R2 ultimately looks much better than R1. It's hard to see because they put so much work into the (useless) scale than intimate, intricate detail, but it's there. Chicago's skyline is really amazing. But then you spend so much time in shitty, drab underground hallways. :\

 

[Loudninja]

The Bellock was amazing against Titans. 3 hits and they were done. There was also alway one around when you fought them. Most people never found them though. Saved my ass so many times on Superhuman.

I was talking about multiplayer mostly, but I didn't really like it ta all I guess.I glad they took the best weapons from R2 and put them in R3.

 

[ToyBroker]

You guys are really hyping me up for this game.


But I REALLY want Dead Island

 

[Onion_Relish]

The Bellock was amazing against Titans. 3 hits and they were done. There was also alway one around when you fought them. Most people never found them though. Saved my ass so many times on Superhuman.

The bellock was actually one of my favorites as well. It was probably the best weapon for 60 man pvp as long as there was no health regen. Just fire a couple burning grenades into a group of people, watch the ezperience rolling in get the chimeran beam rifle perk run in on a suicide mission and hit 20 guys with the alt fire. Success

 

[Loudninja]

I abused the Wraith mostly.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

I hope we can freeze chimera with the freezing gun than shatter than with a hammer. The hammer is a great addition. I love melee weapons.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

Just preordered R3 today!

I loved the first two. Yes R2.

 

[Kurod]

The one that shoot saw blades didn't really like it, wasn't all that useful same with the Bellock.

The splicer was really powerful if you held the secondary fire button before shooting. Instead of bouncing around charged shots would embed themselves in enemies and do continuous damage.

 

[Loudninja]

Oh btw with the new game+ do you start with all your weapons?I doubt but it doesn't hurt to ask.

 

[spats]

Oh btw with the new game+ do you start with all your weapons?I doubt but it doesn't hurt to ask.

Spoiler

No, but you retain your weapon levels. However there are a bunch of cheats that you can buy with ingame money and you can buy all weapons/infinte ammo with those.

 

[ConradCervantes]

Blah, spats said it best.

 

[Loudninja]

Spoiler

No, but you retain your weapon levels. However there are a bunch of cheats that you can buy with ingame money and you can buy all weapons/infinte ammo with those.

Thanks,I wont be doing that though!Well maybe on my 8th playthough.

 

[Y2Kev]

The splicer was really powerful if you held the secondary fire button before shooting. Instead of bouncing around charged shots would embed themselves in enemies and do continuous damage.

I only used it for the Grimms. It was very helpful in Chicago.

 

[Uno Venova]

Spoiler

No, but you retain your weapon levels. However there are a bunch of cheats that you can buy with ingame money and you can buy all weapons/infinte ammo with those.

Sounds great for replayability.

 

[Ashes]

I only used it for the Grimms. It was very helpful in Chicago.

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This man knows what he is talking about.

Spoiler

I think I did the same.

On R3, I think the shot gun is much more useful. In the boat demo especially.

Spoiler

yeah, I played it again.

 

[patsu]

The Bellock was amazing against Titans. 3 hits and they were done. There was also alway one around when you fought them. Most people never found them though. Saved my ass so many times on Superhuman.

That's it. Bellock was the weapon I missed in that level. ^_^

I only used Splicer against the Grimms too.

 

[Loudninja]

I only used it for the Grimms. It was very helpful in Chicago.

Yes the only for Grimms ammo was so limited.But man I still love the Chicago level the Grimms running at you was fantastic.I also like when you walk in that theater and that old horror music was playing.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

I only used it for the Grimms. It was very helpful in Chicago.

I used the fuel grenade on these fools

 

[TTP]

Actually why isn't this the case?, surely it's beneficial that the actual playtime should include deaths/retries? would look better on paper for Insomniac also as it would make the game seem longer.

It's not just beneficial. It also makes sense.

Counting just the "good runs"? I don't see the statistical value in that.

 

[Melchiah]

I am on the 'caring more about SP side', but I much prefer short, varied and well-made SP than long, drawn-out ones.

I prefer varied and well-made long SP campaigns, too bad the maximum time seems to be 8-10 hours nowadays.

 

[RoboPlato]

Yes the only for Grimms ammo was so limited.But man I still love the Chicago level the Grimms running at you was fantastic.I also like when you walk in that theater and that old horror music was playing.

I loved the Chicago mission. Great balance of action and tension. I loved crawling through the wrecked hotel, Slicer-ing my way through the street full of Grims, the huge bridge battle, and the Leviathan's scale. Such a great level.

 

[Loudninja]

I prefer varied and well-made long SP campaigns, too bad the maximum time seems to be 8-10 hours nowadays.

That is consider short now? wow where have I been?

I loved the Chicago mission. Great balance of action and tension. I loved crawling through the wrecked hotel, Slicer-ing my way through the street full of Grims, the huge bridge battle, and the Leviathan's scale. Such a great level.

Yep best level in the game.

 

[Kurod]

I only used it for the Grimms. It was very helpful in Chicago.

Fired spinning blades can one-shot titans even on superhuman.

 

[Y2Kev]

Yes the only for Grimms ammo was so limited.But man I still love the Chicago level the Grimms running at you was fantastic.I also like when you walk in that theater and that old horror music was playing.

I think that is Twin Falls though, right? That was very good.

I loved the Chicago mission. Great balance of action and tension. I loved crawling through the wrecked hotel, Slicer-ing my way through the street full of Grims, the huge bridge battle, and the Leviathan's scale. Such a great level.

I thought the "stalker" (r2 broken stalker crap) part was so bad though.

 

[RoboPlato]

I think that is Twin Falls though, right? That was very good.




I thought the "stalker" (r2 broken stalker crap) part was so bad though.

Yep. That was Twin Falls. I'd always throw a Spider Grenade out into the aisles and destroy them before they hit the stage. Damn, I may pop in R2 again tonight to replay some of these missions.

 

[Loudninja]

I think that is Twin Falls though, right? That was very good.

Ah it most likely was its all fuzzy lol,still loved that part