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Returnal |OT| Live. Die. Repeat.
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GymWolf
Gold Member
I have a question.
Normally you get access to the house when you visit for the first time a biome, first time during the first biome, second time when you reach second biome but you die and then you can enter a second time in the house in the first biome.
Now my question is, i didn't died in the third biome and now i'm in the 4 biome with the house available...am i gonna experience the third iteraction with the house or the game is gonna skip the third iteraction to pass directly to the fourth because i'm in the 4 biome?!
I don't know if i'm clear enough, i just don't wanna lose story elements.
Normally you get access to the house when you visit for the first time a biome, first time during the first biome, second time when you reach second biome but you die and then you can enter a second time in the house in the first biome.
Now my question is, i didn't died in the third biome and now i'm in the 4 biome with the house available...am i gonna experience the third iteraction with the house or the game is gonna skip the third iteraction to pass directly to the fourth because i'm in the 4 biome?!
I don't know if i'm clear enough, i just don't wanna lose story elements.
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GymWolf
Gold Member
sncvsrtoip
Member
I think Returnal approach to forcing using safe mode is too casual. It should perma brick ps5 when you stop playing before completing game or during death.
GymWolf
Gold Member
I disabled the triggers and put the vibration on low or just disable it, they both drain the battery super fast and they don't make any sensible difference to me...neat the first time then you completely forget them.
Con_Z_ǝdʇ
Live from NeoGAF, it's Friday Night!
1. It gives you buffs with each level completed. Once you obtain the next level it shows you what you acquired in the lower mid of the screen.
Level 1 = Enhanced Overload - easier to perform
Level 2 = Enhanced Vision - see enemies through walls (red circle)
Level 3 = Enhanced Melee Attack - faster cool down
Level 4 = Proficiency Rate +50%
Level 5 = Obolites +50%
There are also some cool cross combinations with parasites. I hope i got everything right.
2. I think your HP is at max and you just extend it per run and just for that run.
3. In biome 4 you will find a station for that before the boss so you don't have to defeat him. Not sure about the rest. You found the first one already.
smart_brazileiro
Banned
Fuck me.. Finally beat the first boss.
Con_Z_ǝdʇ
Live from NeoGAF, it's Friday Night!
They are both roguelikes but with different gameplay and progression.
Con_Z_ǝdʇ
Live from NeoGAF, it's Friday Night!
Apparently this bug caused by wearing bonus suits.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
That was an old issue, several major updates came since then. No worries. Anyway, this is not an excuse for no mid-run saves, it's a major flaw.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
It still gave me 10 hours then switched to the second controller. Some said 4 hours which is pretty crazy, I think they have a bad battery. My controller is set at default vibrations and haptic feedback, only turned off the speaker because I use a headset.
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
You mean the door or the punctured hole? The door never opens but if the hole then try using the OG suit.
THEAP99
Banned
Well, I've died to the biome 3 boss fight a couple times. This game is pretty hard. But I appreciate the challenge and the game is pretty dang fun!
Just wish it was more polished because of how the game is $70 but at least I didn't pay full price out of my pocket for it. Decent fun game with some issues
Just wish it was more polished because of how the game is $70 but at least I didn't pay full price out of my pocket for it. Decent fun game with some issues
DonJorginho
Banned
You died because you rushed my friend, I know from experience, I was desperate to finally beat this boss and went on the offensive, died everytime, so I switched up my strategy.
I would not be afraid to go backwards if I had to, to take one or two shots at a time before grappling to another platform, it took a while yes but it kept me alive with even lower health than you had at the start of your clip.
Just be patient, and for god sakes bring a better gun with you to the fight next time
, try and get a carbine or a hollowseeker with a good alt fire that can go a long distance! You'll have this boss in the bag in no time!WTF. Two times now in the first biome the area says its on lockdown or somethign and a green flash goes around the environment. I try to shoot enemies from the door area as I got anhiliated the first time I tried to rush into the area but nothing seems to take damage. Im not prepared to lose this run to this crap as im finally doign good for a change and although I assume there is a switch to flick somewhere in area I m ok being spoiled on it. What gives?
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RGB'D
Member
Yeah the more I play the less impressed I am. I turned around and played a couple runs on hades last night and that is such a completely better experience. Most frustratingly Returnal could have been so much better, but housemarque's lack of experience is really showing through with some of these design choices. There is a solid mechanics in this game and it plays well... but I agree with most of your complaints and the lack of any kind of meta progression, paired with shit pickups really is causing my interest to wane.I am so fucking done. So many idiotic design choices.
There is a boss portal shortcut. Good
It's mid way through the second World. Bad.
You still have to go through the first World every time just to get to the second world. Stupid.
The shop that sells health upgrades, resurrection stones and all other critical items you need to beat the boss is NOT at the boss portal shortcut. It's much much further into the second World so you basically have to replay the entire level hat to get to the boss with decent items and weapons.
Moronic.
You keep nothing. You don't keep your weapons. Your artifacts. Heath upgrades. Weapon levels. Mods only get added to the loot pool after you unlock them. What? Let me modify.
So many runs are ruined by rng. One only had malfunction chests. One had me go through like ten rooms just to get to the second world. Screenshot below.
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DonJorginho
Banned
As soon as that happens look for the source of the green light, there should be these white fleshly looking orbs on top of a pillar in the room, shoot that and you kill the ability for enemies to regenerate health, there should normally be just one but sometimes there are two, just make that your priority, they're not hard to miss!
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Papacheeks
Banned
When like previous poster said, when ever you see enemies with green light, look for the pillar suppling the light. once you destroy it which usually you can from afar, you can stat going through and dealing with rest of enemies.
Game rewards you for being smart in the environment your in. SO knowing what is where, and maneuvering on the fly will help you go a long way. Like turrets were an issue for me early on because I kept gettin fucked with not having the sword.
Once you have that its as easy as running in zig/zag pattern and dashing right to turret and killing it with one blow.
I dont play a lot of rogue like games., bloodborne was the last one I played. And i had died like 3-4 times on the same boss in first biome. Then gave it a rest, and went in and changed controls to classic and upped aim assist to high. Then I WAS shredding, and had full adrenaline with a level 4 carbine. Went to the boss and destroyed him.
Then got far in the second Biome and got boddied lol. But Once it clicks its one of the most satisfying games I've played since Dead space 2.
I'm very close in beating second boss. I think another run later this week and I should get it. I feel second boss pattern wise is easier than first boss.
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Reckheim
Member
it doesn't madder which biome you die in. you're still gonna get the story bits in order.
Isa
Member
Its my favorite weapon so far. It can be easy to get overwhelmed if you miss shots or placements but for me the fun of placing pylons on enemies and walls or the ground and being able to run away or into cover as needed is really cool. And the DPS is very nice when the gun is upgraded. I prefer the risk/reward the Pylon Driver or whatever its called comes with. Flying foes can be a pain, as leading them doesn't always guarantee a hit, but again, using the environment against them is fun.
skit_data
Member
This is so true, got through almost the whole 1st biome without getting hit once yesterday. Something I thought to be impossible two days before. Once you know the rooms, the spawnpoints of enemies and which ones to priorotize the game gets a lot easier.
Another factor is that the game is cumulative, once you start snowballing it gets way easier. Going into an encounter with 5 Adrenaline reduces the risk of taking damage a lot, while going into it with 0 adrenaline increases it by a lot unless its the most basic enemies.
SLB1904
Banned
Yeah game is great. I feel like playing one run per day. Loving so far. Eventually I'll beat it.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
There is a tower emitting it, you can shoot it from very far away before even engaging with the goons.
Reality Czar
Banned
Game finally clicked last night and I made real progress. Figuring out those green light rooms was key.
saintjules
Gold Member
Those little blue balls are the same that Sony used in the PS5 reveal trailer and other PS5 promo stuff?
I was literally saying that on Friday. Funny how that looks.
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tommib
Member
I spent 10 hours to beat it.
My tips:
Stay as far away as possible. Glue yourself to the wall and keep moving left and right.
Dodge his close attacks. Jump and dash for the circular energy fields.
Melee attack when he reappears after moving through the room.
You can do it. Take an extra life (astronaut artifact) but it’s very doable without it. Didn’t use it when I beat him.
Biome 2 is amazing. No idea the map would open up like this. Some of the most absorbing levels I’ve ever played. Game is a gem.
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Well_Of_Souls
Member
I managed to snag a copy for £60 in the UK, so I'm looking forward to trying Returnal out. I've never played a rogue-lite and I'm not sure if I can commit the time to do complete runs, but this looks like the perfect palate cleanser to the long, but enjoyable slog for the platinum on Ghost of Tsushima.
DonJorginho
Banned
When using the Hollowseeker use the advice that
Bo_Hazem
gave me and aim above the red part on his chest , if you aim just a little above then the bullets should gradually fall just enough to hit the red spot.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
When using the Hollowseeker use the advice that
They don't fall actually AFAIK, they are just slow. So it's like using an Anti-Air against a jet you aim in front of the enemy if he's moving. I got to the point it's sending purple waves and other crazy stuff by the end of the game. Also some bosses don't register damage if not aimed at the red/weak spots.
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azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Weird, I found it to be the easiest boss in the game and got hit 3 times on my first try.Maybe using the grappling hook helped too much with verticality and I had a carbine so shooting him from a distance worked well.You died because you rushed my friend, I know from experience, I was desperate to finally beat this boss and went on the offensive, died everytime, so I switched up my strategy.
I would not be afraid to go backwards if I had to, to take one or two shots at a time before grappling to another platform, it took a while yes but it kept me alive with even lower health than you had at the start of your clip.
Just be patient, and for god sakes bring a better gun with you to the fight next time
But yeah,I had much more trouble with the 1st and second boss but even then I beat them on second try.
The 4th boss was very hard but I just found a carbine with leech rounds and high fire rate....It took a lot of time but basically healed me each time I got hit (which was a lot,I guess I got lucky).
If some of you have doubts leech rounds is amazing especially if you have a big magazine and nothing that would prevent you from doing perfect reloads.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Also I wanna stress that the shield breaker red laser is the best alt fire, it's like having a sniper. Breaks the shields and also makes devastating damage.
I actually prefer the carbine with high caliber (slow FPS) that hits hard as second best weapon.
I actually prefer the carbine with high caliber (slow FPS) that hits hard as second best weapon.
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Papacheeks
Banned
This is why it's hard for me to take people serious about this game when they have issues with it's difficulty. This is not trying to be a mainstream game like Hades, or even Dead cells. Housemarque have rarely made a mainstream game. Dead nation maybe?
It's hard to listen and take Jeff Grub serious. He's now saying no one has read his review that is complaining. And on twitter that might be true, but a lot of the people here and even on Resetera before the thread got closed literlaly had read his review and were quoting him on why his review doesn't make sense if he's the type of person not into rogue likes.
He was on a podcast show this weekend, and literally blames everyone else for his review. Like saying they didn't read his article, actually a lot of us did, and the fact you dinged the game because of it's rogue like attributes, shows that maybe you were the wrong person to review the game. And the score is not indicitive to the things you disliked because you should of taken into consideration certain things on horsemarque.
Horsemarque does not make simple games, they make very challenging well made arcade shooters. That shooting is very fair when it comes to the player. While some things I will agree with him, I think at sometimes the amount of time to get to the biomes you unlock after you die should be quicker, less travel time. Also You should be able to start at the latest Biome you unlocked with just your pistol. Or let it be an option for people who dont want to go through the ruins to make a build.
And some of the glitches he was right about with the suspend glitch. But that seems to have been ironed out in the launch patch. I didn't have those crash issues others were talking about.
But he literally made himself on twitter look like a clown, and this whole bending the knee to get clout in this shitastic politically infused social media also gives you no clout when it comes to ajournalist.
It's fine do give a score if a game has a lot of short comings in your review. And he articulated those pretty well I thought. But I feel the whole review falls apart because it is pre-established that you are not a fan of rogue games. He brings up HADES. WHich is totally valid and probably the best current example to compare it too.
He just doesnt understand why people have issue with his review and a lot of the main issue is not the score you gave, but what you said about himself not liking rogue games.
Rant over.
Grubb is a clown.
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gunslikewhoa
Member
I'm totally hooked. I hope Sony throws some money at Housemarque for a sequel. Expand the scope a bit, put more thought into the roguelike elements and meta-progression, and they'll have something truly special.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yeah it has way better dps but heals way less.I actually do prefer it too but only if I have a big life bar.Otherwise leech and high pitch are safer.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Right now I just need to beat the mini boss in biome 6 but I need to play the 3 previous biome and not go straight because he hits really hard.But it is easily doable, in fact I could have beat him on 1st try if I hadn't picked a parasite just before fighting him that happened to remove another parasite that would've revived me and instead got 2 malfunctions ...... I was not so happy about it.
Edit; Whoops quoted the wrong post.
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Puncheur
Member
Finally managed to beat the first boss after 11 hours of playtime. My palms were so sweaty and anxiety was through the roof! Spent an hour farming for the fight. It's not a tough boss but knowing the consequences of defeat makes me so tense that I just make lots of unforced errors. Was gonna put the game on ebay if this fight ended in defeat. I love the game but I'm nowhere near good enough, I doubt I'll get beyond the third level. This game is a superb homage to all the best alien sci-fi, getting strong Dead Space vides now in the second biome.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Haven't you guys stopped to think about how impressive the upscaling in this game is? Base 1080p to 4K! With better engine, higher talent we can see extreme visuals with extensive usage of RT as well in the future!
Yes it doesn't look like native 4K, but it feels like bluray 1080p or even higher! Excited for what's ahead! Let's not forget that this is 1440p as well and capable of doing so in 60fps with further optimization (done by few devs within 7 months):
Yes it doesn't look like native 4K, but it feels like bluray 1080p or even higher! Excited for what's ahead! Let's not forget that this is 1440p as well and capable of doing so in 60fps with further optimization (done by few devs within 7 months):
tommib
Member
You can do it! We’re all in this together.
tommib
Member
I think people are just numb to see how amazing the game looks. I don’t know what they’re expecting.Haven't you guys stopped to think about how impressive the upscaling in this game is? Base 1080p to 4K! With better engine, higher talent we can see extreme visuals with extensive usage of RT as well in the future!
Yes it doesn't look like native 4K, but it feels like bluray 1080p or even higher! Excited for what's ahead! Let's not forget that this is 1440p as well and capable of doing so in 60fps with further optimization (done by few devs within 7 months):
The particle spectacle is absolutely groundbreaking and there’s nothing like it. I hope devs keep the trend of 1080p internal resolutions upscaled to 2K and give us all the goodies in effects and geometry.
