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Rob Ford ctd: Ford rehab, Star posts swinging/racist/drunk driving/violent/drug story
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They've made a lateral move to become video-dealers.
flyinpiranha
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Ha, I wish Chris Farley was alive, that youtube spoof of a The Rob Ford Movie could have been hilarious.
Wait what? Please don't play this game. I can assure you that my stance on this is in no way associated to any ideological leanings I may share with Rob Ford, of which there are none.
Because I don't think it's right to remove an elected official for ideological and partisan reasons.
AlphaTwo00
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My frothing demand for WILLECTRO's return increases.
Zombie James
Banned
Serious substance abuse is neither of those.
WrenchNinja
Member
When is his ban up? Or was it a perm?
Today IIRC.
Ideological? This is 99% about his conduct.
Partisan? City Hall is pretty much united in wanting him to go.
But please, keep changing what we're all saying. It's fun.
Everything aside, this man was never designed to be mayor. He was a lone wolf councillor, born with a silver spoon in his mouth, who only got into politics because his daddy encouraged him (he admitted he never even read the "Code of Conduct" guidebook given to everyone at city hall), and decided he wanted to "fight the system", voting "No" on everything regardless of what it was.
Once he became "the system", he was totally unprepared for it and just bullied everyone underneath him.
Left, right, or centre, that's a bad formula. Add to it massive substance abuse problems and criminal ties, and you have a disaster.
Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
Timid? She's been rolling out one of the more ambitious regional transit plans in Southern Ontario's history. You don't like her, fine. But lets try to stick with reality here.
He's only human, everyone makes mistakes.
I'm being sarcastic, please don't shoot me.
Sir John A McDonald showed up drunk to a debate and threw up on stage.
It's still not enough to kick someone from office. Let the electorate decide if he is fit for office. And just so we're clear, I really hope they vote him out.
I don't know why you're being so obstinate. A recall implementation could easily include a voting mechanism. As it is now, the system is actually less democratic relying on the whims of the province to keep or get rid of the mayor
Senor Kami
Banned
Sir John A MacDonald lived in a time when there was no Internet or practical news media. If television had been invented, the U.S. would never have elected FDR because he was crippled. Blah blah blah. Times change, in this case for the better.
You still haven't given a proper reason not to have a recall procedure.
lol and also you do realize that the Prime Minister can be removed from office by either the Governor General or his own party, right?
Zombie James
Banned
The issue is the electorate has to wait four years to do anything about it. That's not good enough. There has to be a better way in situations like this where someone clearly needs help and shouldn't be anywhere near a position of authority and responsibility.
Except provincial governments are also elected.
Municipalities serving at the whim of the provincial legislature in the very basis of the delegation of powers and responsibilities of the country. No, we are not a pure democracy, but the relationship between municipalities and provinces are an entirely constitutional matter.
And the reason I am holding on this is because I think most who are arguing in favour of a recall are doing so in knee jerk reaction to the Rob Ford affair and feel no qualms about the implications simply because they don't align themselves with Ford's politics.
plagiarize
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what problems do you believe have been caused in all the other places that already have a system like the one being talked about here?
because you're talking about hypothetical things that could go wrong, while there is a very unhypothetical thing that's gone VERY wrong with the current system.
the suggested changes might not be perfect, but pointing that out is never a good argument against changing a system that already has real demonstrated issues.
You Are Viewtiful
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He said he wants pot to be legal.
I'm surprised it's still illegal despite so much consensus on this topic. Tories are probably trying to placate their extremist base, especially since they already get so much criticism from them for being too centrist.
Oh boy - I don't know if GAF would survive.
Oh, I'm aware of the consequences of a recall mechanism. That's why when I suggest there be one it should be very, very difficult to activate.
It's the last resort. The "We have to stop Godzilla" option.
Arkos
Nose how to spell and rede to
I know new thread for new news, but I feel sad if the Ron Ford OT is going to die. I love this guy. So sorry to our Toronto friends, but I mean come on, now North America can rival the idiotic (offensive) "missteps" of prominent European figures like those from Italy and France. It means we're becoming more cosmopolitan yo.
I'm not, there are a shitload of industries that would lose a lot of money if marijuana was legal, e.g. Alcohol industry, tobacco industry, Pharma industry...
I don't even want to know how much pain, misery and death this failed war on drugs has caused globally.
We're still about 100 years behind Berlusconi.
GungHo
Single-handedly caused Exxon-Mobil to sue FOX, start World War 3
This man needs an Eli Gold.
OK, here's the thing, I think you're way over stating the position that a mayor holds. It is impossible to have a 'Godzilla' as a mayor because the very nature of his position (at least how it is defined by Canadian and Ontario law) prevents him from being able to cause any lasting and/or devastating damage to the city of Toronto.
Don't worry, he ain't got nothing on King Kong. ;-)
Knee-jerk? Ford has been a rambling, lying, hypocritical mess for a year now. Well, more like a decade. But we'll call it a year because that's when the crack vid story broke.
I really hate how he lied constantly during his conflict of interest trial (his defence was he didn't understand what he was saying or reading -which may actually be valid now that I think of it, because of how damaged his mind must be from all the substance abuse), and no one seems to be bringing that up.
I get that we can't remove him.
But I fully support creating an impeachment process in the future to prevent another pathological liar crackhead from taking office.
And it's not about policy.
If Oliva Chow started doing crack... I somehow think she'd end up being a shitty mayor too. Lying, being violent, showing up late, acting confused, mismanaging projects, calling TTC buses to pick up the football team (that she was coaching instead of attending a council meeting) during rush hour and forcing everyone on that bus to get off it and stand in the rain (which fucking still blows me away that that actually happened) etc. It's not the policy, it's the crack.
Ummm, that's not how crack works. Ford's substance abuse problems are completely separate from the fact that he's a shitty human being.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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I'd say he's a damn coward. The only time he did something 'brave' was initially disclosing he did crack cocaine after being asked about it for months. His back is against the wall and his only option to save face (and his job and his campaign) is to go to rehab. If he could, he'd continue to deny, deny, deny.
Zombie James
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Thirty days of treatment for years of substance abuse is a joke. I wouldn't be shocked at all if on the first day he comes back he gets caught hanging out with Lisi at a bar somewhere.
Onion_Relish
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I think you missed the joke brother. Please reference his avatar.
Barring some extreme life altering change in the next 21-30 days, he's going to fall of the wagon again.
He's only doing it to save face, even though his base is still (moronically) behind him.
Jimmyfenix
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This guy man...The saga does not end!
Even on Intervention, 30 days is usually a failure situation.
"ROB FORD LEFT TREATMENT AFTER ONLY 30 DAYS. HE MAINTAINS THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CRACK, BUT THAT IT'S SOCIETY WHO HAS THE PROBLEM."
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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I saw it after the fact, but couldn't edit it due to work. I'll keep it intact, because I ain't no coward.
It's a ten year plan! How many long term transit plans have come and gone? How many ten year plans have their been in the past ten years alone?
StrangeADT
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OMG only other Canadians will get how funny this is. For outsiders, there have been commercials for as long as I can remember from the Canadian government that details bits of our history and they always ended with that background picture. I'm sure you could Youtube some of them.
Oppo
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Ford's wife and kids must be breathing a bit easier today.
For the next little while, they don't have to deal with him stumbling home in the wee hours completely shit-faced.
(According to his drunken ramblings at Musik, they hate him.)
Transit needs to be at arm's length from all levels of government, to prevent it from being influenced by political pandering. It's impossible to plan in the short term, given the complexity of the projects, so these things are always derailed by elections.
Metrolinx was created to fix that problem, but it has no teeth to defend itself and just bows to the will of whoever gets elected.
Metrolinx knows the LRT plan is the best, but they're terrified of politicians, who are terrified of the uninformed voters in Scarborough Rob Ford has riled up.
For the next little while, they don't have to deal with him stumbling home in the wee hours completely shit-faced.
(According to his drunken ramblings at Musik, they hate him.)
Transit needs to be at arm's length from all levels of government, to prevent it from being influenced by political pandering. It's impossible to plan in the short term, given the complexity of the projects, so these things are always derailed by elections.
Metrolinx was created to fix that problem, but it has no teeth to defend itself and just bows to the will of whoever gets elected.
Metrolinx knows the LRT plan is the best, but they're terrified of politicians, who are terrified of the uninformed voters in Scarborough Rob Ford has riled up.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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Thank goodness you'll miss the vote then.
Did you ever see the comedy network parodies?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chmmGveD7_8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4jjTHMhNmo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHLIUD8c47A
I really thought Ford would have been ousted by the time my ban was lifted. This election is going to be a roller coaster. I'm glad to be back though.
I hope my lackluster return hasn't disappointed. I posted a bit more in Toronto-Age.
I hope my lackluster return hasn't disappointed. I posted a bit more in Toronto-Age.
You Are Viewtiful
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So are you keeping that avatar?
Welcome back!
Welcome back!
Are you on crack?
Need a 'Don't you Put it in Your Mouth' edit involving pipes.
So, Rob Ford "turned back" before entering the US last week.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/ford-turns-back-from-united-states/article18477430/
The theory is that it was implied that he wouldn't be allowed into the US, so he withdrew his request before they could make it official. Being denied entry into the US carries an automatic 5 year ban, if I remember correctly.
We really should give him his space to recovery, but given his family's history of compulsive lying about everything, we need to be sure he's actually in rehab rather than kicking back at his family's cottage with a Caesar in hand until the story goes away.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/ford-turns-back-from-united-states/article18477430/
The theory is that it was implied that he wouldn't be allowed into the US, so he withdrew his request before they could make it official. Being denied entry into the US carries an automatic 5 year ban, if I remember correctly.
We really should give him his space to recovery, but given his family's history of compulsive lying about everything, we need to be sure he's actually in rehab rather than kicking back at his family's cottage with a Caesar in hand until the story goes away.
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