DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Rumor:
I'm excited for this! Can't wait!
And yes, this follows the comics...
I'm excited for this! Can't wait!
And yes, this follows the comics...
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Robert Downey Jr back in MCU: IronHEART
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I thought he was done?
ManaByte
Gold Member
Except that RDJ just debunked this.
www.hindustantimes.com
"I’ve done all I could with that character and can do other things now. Now, being middle-aged, you start looking at the back nine and realize this is all part of the journey and things end. I am fortunate and eternally grateful to have wound up where I have."
Playing Iron Man was hard and I dug deep: Robert Downey Jr
The actor says his 10-year long run as Iron Man has been creatively satisfying but he has to move on now
"I’ve done all I could with that character and can do other things now. Now, being middle-aged, you start looking at the back nine and realize this is all part of the journey and things end. I am fortunate and eternally grateful to have wound up where I have."
Slings and Arrows
Banned
Make Sherlock Holmes 3 you cunt!
cryptoadam
Banned
I didnt watch the video but it should be obvious to anyone that RDJ is going to come back as some sort of new Jarvis.
With today's tech they could just pay RDJ 20 million and then use CGI to make him a hologram and voice AI for his lines.
With today's tech they could just pay RDJ 20 million and then use CGI to make him a hologram and voice AI for his lines.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
X-Men could breathe some life back into it for me if done right.
Calcium
Banned
They aren't going to do it right. There is no way in hell. I'm guessing it won't even be called "X-Men", that's problematic.
triplestation
Member
anything after iron man 1 was all about the money
i believe iron man 1 is the only entry where everyone involved wanted to tell a story
i believe iron man 1 is the only entry where everyone involved wanted to tell a story
GeorgioCostanzaX
Gold Member
It’s not really a question of if but when and how much money is involved. If interest wanes in the franchise isn’t all that far fetched at this point unless people feel confident in going back to theaters so the next few films are naturally going to have lower turnout. I give it like 5 years and then Ant Man or Doctor Strange drag alternate universe RDJ in to finish the fight and send him back through a portal once the conflict is over.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Even if this was true, I'm not watching this crap.
Ironheart was a terrible character so annoying she got mad at her teacher for not telling her she can't do whatever she wants in life.
You misread that whole scene... Are you thinking angry because she's a black girl? That's a look of determination. Not anger. She was being silly because that's what INCREDIBLY smart kids do. I went to school with a couple. Cool kids. Cooler adults now too.
DeepBreath87
Banned
I guess I find it patronizingly stupid more than anything else. Its so played out. But if that's what people are into, I'm not going to judge. Its obviously not for me.
sol_bad
Member
Prove your point.
Because everything I have read or watched shows that the creatives get to tell the story they want to tell. Especially in phase 3.
In actual fact, Iron Man 1 didn't even have a completed script by the time production began. There was a lot of improv on set.
Even if this was true, I'm not watching this crap.
Ironheart was a terrible character so annoying she got mad at her teacher for not telling her she can't do whatever she wants in life.
It's called comedy and it's ok if you don't find it funny. It didn't land for me either.
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kunonabi
Member
Even if this was true, I'm not watching this crap.
Ironheart was a terrible character so annoying she got mad at her teacher for not telling her she can't do whatever she wants in life.
Easily the worst origin story in the history of comics.
Calcium
Banned
What a completely normal thing for a child that age to say. I can't believe people fall for this pandering nonsense.
DESTROYA
Member
IronHeart is such a garbage character and can’t believe they are making a movie on this character.
Nothing to do with her being a female or her race but I think around the time she was first introduced I decided I had enough with comics and dropped them altogether.
She is just a generic Iron Man knock-off.
Nothing to do with her being a female or her race but I think around the time she was first introduced I decided I had enough with comics and dropped them altogether.
She is just a generic Iron Man knock-off.
I think you missed how they tried to have a child act like they were an embittered veteran of the 60s race wars when in fact they were as privileged as any other kid in that class and should just STFU and do her classwork.
ManofOne
Plus Member
I don't think she's that bad. but she often overshadowed by Tony and makes me feel that she's one of those characters you have to give to the political correct, not one that complements the universe.
sol_bad
Member
I haven't read Riri Williams but I have heard that she started off as a terrible character and has grown in to a really good character. Obviously this is going to boil down to who is writing her. All super heroes are are written well and terribly throughout time.
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I will read her soon though, once I finish off reading all the 60's Marvel issues I'm going to jump in after Secret Wars and catch up.
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I will read her soon though, once I finish off reading all the 60's Marvel issues I'm going to jump in after Secret Wars and catch up.
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DESTROYA
Member
I saw the direction Marvel was heading and did not like what I was seeing. Your right she’s not bad but it was the whole direction comics were going in general that I decided to just drop them . Quote from another time and place.
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sol_bad
Member
It's OK, you can just ignore everything MCU related moving forward. I'm sure Riri Williams will be great on the small screen.Yay, another shitty character that being brought into MCU.
DESTROYA
Member
Why did they have to create REEREEE when they already had Lila Rhodes ?
They are basically the same character.
Calcium
Banned
Why are you sure she'll be great? You've said yourself you haven't read any of her books.
Labolas
Member
Because the character ain't woke enough
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
What is IronHEART? Like force ghost Tony?
TrainedRage
Banned
I thought he was cancelled after going on Joe Rogans Podcast???
sol_bad
Member
Like I said above, I can't comment on why they created Riri Williams instead of using Lila Rhodes because I haven't read the comics. I don't know about Lila Rhodes either as I didn't read the Iron Patriot mini. I've heard that Riri Williams has become a better character as Eve Ewing took over writing her.
Because for me personally everything in the MCU has ranged from good to amazing. They haven't done anything bad.
DESTROYA
Member
Woke , female , POC IronMan knockoff with a terrible back story.
Calcium
Banned
Every character in the MCU has had decades of characterization and numerous runs to draw inspiration from. What does Ironheart have? One run, maybe two? I don't think I'd be so sure with this phase maintaining the quality of the MCU.
sol_bad
Member
It doesn't matter how long the comic character has been around for. The MCU interpretation of Riri Williams might be totally different to the comic interpretation of Riri Williams for all we know.
Until Marvel Studios actually start to release stinkers I'll continue to have faith in them as a studio. It's 3 weeks until we see "nu woke" Marvel (as people like to paint them now) with Wandavision, if that's a stinker than I'll start having my concerns.
Calcium
Banned
That's the problem, they can and should change the character completely. Which just begs the question - why develop Ironheart for the MCU? We all know the answer.
When you create characters to pander to identity politics there isn't any substance there so the MCU changing the character completely is perfectly fine as long as she checks those boxes. The MCU leaning into "woke Marvel" is going to a huge risk, we'll see how it plays out.
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Richard Packer
Member
Yeah, because it's 2020 and when you say 'X-Men' we automatically think you're talking about a gyal that used to be a man.
The problem with Iron Man in the MCU was the Iron Suit was just too powerful in the latest movies. It moved from being a believable tech inspired by jets to be magical, and this was the main problem, Iron Man was so powerful it was no more about tech, it was almost magic. And you already, have Strange as a magician. So you need Iron Man to return to it's basics, a powerful, plausible, technological hero.
sol_bad
Member
Feige has always wanted more representation in the MCU even back in phase 1 but his higher ups ruled the day. It wasn't about "checking boxes" it was about representation. During the creation of phase 3 he started to have much more creative control with what he was allowed to do with the MCU. What he wanted to do, what he always wanted to do, hasn't come to fruition until now.
I see nothing wrong with more representation.
#Phonepunk#
Banned
lol if so they couldn't even have him gone for a single movie before bringing him back
Calcium
Banned
Ignoring the fact that seeking representation is literally checking boxes, there are actual good characters that fill that quota. Riri is not one of them.
sol_bad
Member
It's not checking boxes.
Feige had a vision and that vision was that his Marvel movies would be popular around the world. If you have a world wide phenomenon why wouldn't you want to market to the various countries around the world? It's not about representation for the sake of America, it's representation for the sake of the world.
I don't need an Australian character to enjoy a Marvel movie but damn it would be pretty awesome to have Eva Bell or Gateway show up in a film and take place in Australia.