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Robert Downey Jr cast as Doctor Doom in Avengers: Doomsday, dir. Russo Bros, May 2026
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Pejo
Gold Member
The thing is, it has to be part of the story from the beginning, and there have to be clear (and believable) rules of what is and isn't possible with it. It can't be added in at the halfway point and just used to walk back some poor writing decisions earlier in the story or save a fan-favorite character to try to boost sales/engagement.
Also, your novel sounds like something I would play through in my head with my Dino Riders toys as a kid lol. I'm into it.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
The thing is, it has to be part of the story from the beginning, and there have to be clear (and believable) rules of what is and isn't possible with it. It can't be added in at the halfway point and just used to walk back some poor writing decisions earlier in the story or save a fan-favorite character to try to boost sales/engagement.
Also, your novel sounds like something I would play through in my head with my Dino Riders toys as a kid lol. I'm into it.
I'm hoping Avengers Secret Wars is good. I'm a huge fan of the 2016 Jonathan Secret Wars Comic Event. That's still my favorite event when it comes to Marvel and DC. I loved collecting all the comics for each spinoff title. I wish it was more than one movie though since Secret Wars is MASSIVE
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diffusionx
Gold Member
This move reeks of desperation.
ManaByte
Gold Member
They've been doing Time Runs Out in the movies so far. People have just been pretending that there's no plan after Endgame. Multiverse of Madness started the Incursions. The Marvels had the biggest one yet when Monica got stuck in the Fox X-Men universe.
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ManaByte
Gold Member
Not at all. Everyone knew it was happening. The person who played Cassie Lang leaked it and the 5 years later to her class. Which is why she wasn't back in Quantumania.
gothmog
Gold Member
I must be good at avoiding spoilers then lol. Either way I still think there's quite a bit not being said about this.
Hrk69
Member
ManaByte
Gold Member
Feige’s snipers are real good.
UnravelKatharsis
Member
They want butts in seats day one. This gets that job done better. It's worse for storytelling, but better for opening weekend. It sucks.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
I mean the main Secret Wars Event itself
Had so many interesting spinoff comic series like Marvel Zombies, Thors, etc
The whole concept of Battleworld is awesome
I'm just saying the potential is there
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Interfectum
Member
Seems desperate but I’ll take it over the alternative of them going with a ‘modern take’ for Dr. Doom.
Ulysses 31
Member
Werewolf Jones
Member
Actually agree with him on this and The Boys S4. But he will still give them money to see it. lol.
ForAcademicPurposes
Member
If they fucking turn this shit show around then I will never question the Russo's, ever again.
ManaByte
Gold Member
They just released a movie that made half a billion in its opening weekend. I know people are moving the goalposts and trying to credit Fox for it, but it's still a MCU Marvel movie. And everyone was impressed by the 2025 movies at SDCC. All of that is before the Russos are back.
ForAcademicPurposes
Member
Number on a spreadsheet. The film itself won't be talked about in a week from now.
Deadpool (the character in the film) wants to be Marvel Jesus but even he acknowledges that this feat is hard to accomplish . He is just not the people's hero. It has always been Captain America & Iron Man.
Russo's task now is to make everyone a Dr. Doom fan.
ManaByte
Gold Member
It'll still be #1 next week. Probably until the week after if people show up for Borderlands. If not it'll stay #1 until Alien hits.
Ulysses 31
Member
Did No Way Home save the MCU? Plenty of MCU clunkers came after it.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Zero chance they'd be able to keep that a secret.
ForAcademicPurposes
Member
I wish that it would touch the hearts of a wider audience because it hits the right notes but it comes when MCU is in a down spiral.
Guardians 3 hits all the right notes as well (at least it did for me) but people did not give a toss. Discarded like garbage waste.
The only way they can turn this around is with an Oppenheimer type movie that sends shock waves (and memes) throughout the internet.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
RDJ taking his mask off has the same crowd vibe as the 2004 E3 announcement of Twilight Princess.
ForAcademicPurposes
Member
Wish I could have been there. What a moment.
LordCBH
Member
You’re not wrong. I wish stuff like this could though. The internet has robbed so many genuine surprises. The No Way Home stuff is a big one.
FunkMiller
Member
Pretty much spot on from Drinker, for once. This is not a move made by a franchise that's confident about the future with the storylines and characters it will be working with.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
RDJ first played a gay character in 1995 and has done so several times since.
It’s called acting.
March Climber
Member
This is something I was thinking of earlier today, which type of Doom voice do you guys think RDJ will go for?
- 1960's/1970's theater style voice
- 1980's Darth Vader style voice
- 1990's Eastern European accent voice
- Early 2000's Businessman voice (Based off of the first F4 movie)
- Late 2000's Sniveling villain voice
- Early 2010's Calm/Cold blooded voice
- Mid 2010's Modern Eastern European accent voice
- Late 2010's British Bond villain voice
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
If this isn't a Tony Stark variant, then I hope they bring back Josh Brolin as Tony Stark / Iron Man
ChuckeRearmed
Member
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It is hilarious but only Spider-man can change actors and still be popular, but it is mainly due to SM being a high profile character across various cartoons and movies.
I don't think anybody cares about non-RDJ Iron Man. Though it makes sense considering that the first Iron Man was released in 2008 and Endage was in 2019. It is basically a character that potentially defined a childhood of some people. And associated only with RDJ. It is kinda the same as with Wolverine - would anybody care if Wolverine was played by somebody else at this point?
It is hilarious but only Spider-man can change actors and still be popular, but it is mainly due to SM being a high profile character across various cartoons and movies.
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Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
It was being tongue-in-cheek, though I agree with you, though I'm in the old man shouting at clouds phase of my life.
I was hoping like a few others here, after watching Oppenheimer, that Cillian Murphy would have been the pick. Dude has the screen presence and acting chops.
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Eh, all it takes us a good actor who LOOKS THE PART and plays the CHARACTER. When the character exists only on screen like Indiana Jones its a lot harder sime there is no source other than harrison Ford, but bond shows that you can use the source material to inform each performance and make the character immortal.
So yes, I think we can, and should, get other actors as Wolverine and iron man, IF there is a good story to tell and they cast someone who embodies the character.
March Climber
Member
I have never understood why Disney has been so scared of recasting (aside from Rhodes), without there being some oddball narrative reasoning for it. Instead we have actors who are getting older and older, or who have simply passed away, and their roles either look really bad due to their age or they are instead entirely removed from the plot. Indiana Jones being a good example and Star Wars being another good example.
If the whole point was to pander to older Star Wars fans back in the mid 2010s, then there was no reason why we couldn't have had a young Master Luke series with Sebastian Stan playing the role, other than Disney getting in their own way.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
The problem with Indiana Jones is that the modern generation does not care about that IP much and for the older fans Harrison Ford = Indiana Jones.
Star Wars though...it is a mess really.
I think Disney has an issue with actors they hire - they are too many of them who has no charisma at all or do not match their characters at all. Plus everything post Endgame lacks substance because it does not the charisma monsters like RDJ and Chris Evans connecting everything together. We will see a lot from the results of the next Captain America movie - they have some good ingredients there, but I am not sure if it will be enough for it to surpass Wolverine.
Oppenheimer's guy would be an interesting choice - maybe they can find a role for the guy from Dune too as it seems he is pretty successful these days - but I suspect it still would not be enough to generate the excitement for Avengers movie. The fact that they did not bother to recast Wolverine - despite the last movie being 7 years ago - and decide to bring Hugh Jackman tells me that they feel like they cannot find actors that would bring people to theaters.
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March Climber
Member
I've always looked at Indiana Jones like a James Bond role. I'd argue they both had a similar slump of quality around Die Another Day and Crystal Skull.
All they needed was their version of Casino Royale to kickstart new audiences into a fresh new Indy. Instead, they wasted it on...well, nothing, for years. Then they recently released a movie with an old, CGI'd up Harrison Ford to compensate and it ended up feeling like a movie that no one asked for.
David Ricardo
Member
I'm just saying, I know it's not going to be a cool villain. They are going to write a weak and evil asshole who is going to do things which make no sense in the script but are only there to put down the actor.
In time, we will see what happens
ManaByte
Gold Member
This is your brain on performance outrage culture war YouTube.
Kevin Feige reveres F4 and Doom as if they’re the Bible. They’re literally the comic and characters the entire company is built on.
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March Climber
Member
RDJ is too far into the stratosphere to be affected. The only way they could 'put him down' would be to make him completely mute while at the same time putting him in a mask that he never takes off.
bitbydeath
Member
Nah, honestly that one should just be cancelled at this point. I doubt many care about it after the trash series they did.
March Climber
Member
‘Falcon and Winter Soldier’ Rises to No. 1 in Nielsen Streaming Rankings
The show becomes the second Disney+ series, after 'The Mandalorian,' to finish first overall in the weekly charts.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
As much as GAF has turned on Disney/Marvel, they were on a good run during the Wandavision/Falcon&WS/Mandalorian era.
See, I don't think this is true. Indy hasn't been INDY since Last Crusade. Aging him out of the 20s/30s ruined it. Keep him forever in that between world wars period, focus on adventure, keep him a rogue, and explore exotic locations.
bitbydeath
Member
Wandavision was good.‘Falcon and Winter Soldier’ Rises to No. 1 in Nielsen Streaming Rankings
The show becomes the second Disney+ series, after 'The Mandalorian,' to finish first overall in the weekly charts.
As much as GAF has turned on Disney/Marvel, they were on a good run during the Wandavision/Falcon&WS/Mandalorian era.
It had an interesting story, it introduced new characters in well with old ones.
Falcon is where the rot set in.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Disagree.
Steve handed down the mantle to Sam in Endgame. It made thematic and narrative sense given where the characters were, including Col. Barnes.
The show itself was pretty good. Were there weak spots? Yes, but overall the show was really good! It did well in weekly ratings. And Sam fully embracing the mantle was well done.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
I am not sure if changing the actor in 90s would do a trick. Indiana Jones was just too attached to HF identity. Personally I think Indiana Jones won't work as a different actor as long as HF is alive.
bitbydeath
Member
-Avengers not being paid and what that spun off into was just outright dumb.
-Falcon being a cunt toward John was out of character and unnecessary.
-Falcon’s double-standards on killing was extremely hypocritical.
-Falcon’s stance on the super serum and disrespect toward both John and Steve for taking it, despite the lore of needing it to handle the shield was dumb.
And the overall storyline was just uninteresting.