Robin Williams wants to be the Joker in Batman Begins sequel
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Robin Williams is an incredible actor and imo and pull off anything, even Joker, although I'd prefer Johny Depp for this role.
bionic77 said:
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Really? So was he doing it in this movie?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0278504/
Oh wait, I suppose you never watched it because all he does is his slapstick schizo gag.
Gearharaden
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Wait, you have to be a serious actor to play a villian called The Joker? What the hell is wrong with you people? :lol
Shiggy should play The Joker.
Shiggy should play The Joker.
I dunno. I think Robin Williams as Joker could be interesting. Certainly not what any of us have in mind... but going from the end of Begins to this one with Joker could be sweet. Robin Williams playing a lunatic rapist? I mean, he has the talent and the capacity to pull it off. This could be for Robin Williams what Pulp Fiction was for Travolta.
Angels of a Wing
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Robin Williams as the Joker would Sink the movie faster then you can say Titanic (and I'm refering to the ship not the box office smashing movie).
I hope they at least get Mark Hamil to Voice the joker if nothing else. He's the best Joker of all time
I hope they at least get Mark Hamil to Voice the joker if nothing else. He's the best Joker of all time
MrPing1000
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I reckon he could pull it off. He's a good actor.
HyperZone<3
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So I'm only vaguely familar with the comics. I haven't read more then a handful of them, and I've seen maybe only 30% of the superlative animated series. So I can't claim to be an expert on the comics or the characters.
But, why have the Joker in the next film? Batman Begins did such a great job at making a borderline realistic superhero movie, one filled with real and geniune emotion and action and drama that while somewhat removed from reality, was no more preposterous then say, any of the Die Hard or Lethal Weapon sequels.
Why introduce a character as blatently comic-ish, as clownish as the Joker, crikey, why don't they just reintroduce The Riddler and Clayface? Perhaps I've got a limited imagination, but I can't picture The Joker fitting well into the world that Batman Begins so wonderfully executed. There actually could be mad scientists who have developed hallucinagenic weapons, there could be secret societies that work to bring down elements of the world (we call it Halliburton), the technology of Begins wasn't even that far out. But a mincing, wisecracking, totally batshit loco crime boss decked out in plum purple and makeup out of a 60's episode of Star Trek, that's a bit too much for me to buy.
If you're going to get a character that intristically runs counter to the whole carefully designed, gritty, dark and realistic atmosphere of the first film, they might as well go all out. Then the next thing you know you're watching a more competent Joel Schumacher abortion of a film.
Like I said, I'm not completely familar with the Joker's history, but neither are most people. For 85% of the people that walk into a Batman Begins sequel where The Joker appears, they would automatically think of Hamill's or Nicholson's Joker, to tear it down and start again seems kind of counter-productive, especially when there are lots of other cool, and not-terribly looney tune villlians that they could put in the next film.
Give me another guy like Scarecrow, something I can buy within the confines of the film and not feel silly about it. Thats the thing that seperates Batman Begins from, say, Spider-Man, X-Men, or pretty much any other superhero franchise, and that is a big part of what made it so good to me. Bringing such a disruptive element into the next film makes no sense to me.
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If there has to be a Joker, they oughta get Tim Roth. He's great.
But, why have the Joker in the next film? Batman Begins did such a great job at making a borderline realistic superhero movie, one filled with real and geniune emotion and action and drama that while somewhat removed from reality, was no more preposterous then say, any of the Die Hard or Lethal Weapon sequels.
Why introduce a character as blatently comic-ish, as clownish as the Joker, crikey, why don't they just reintroduce The Riddler and Clayface? Perhaps I've got a limited imagination, but I can't picture The Joker fitting well into the world that Batman Begins so wonderfully executed. There actually could be mad scientists who have developed hallucinagenic weapons, there could be secret societies that work to bring down elements of the world (we call it Halliburton), the technology of Begins wasn't even that far out. But a mincing, wisecracking, totally batshit loco crime boss decked out in plum purple and makeup out of a 60's episode of Star Trek, that's a bit too much for me to buy.
If you're going to get a character that intristically runs counter to the whole carefully designed, gritty, dark and realistic atmosphere of the first film, they might as well go all out. Then the next thing you know you're watching a more competent Joel Schumacher abortion of a film.
Like I said, I'm not completely familar with the Joker's history, but neither are most people. For 85% of the people that walk into a Batman Begins sequel where The Joker appears, they would automatically think of Hamill's or Nicholson's Joker, to tear it down and start again seems kind of counter-productive, especially when there are lots of other cool, and not-terribly looney tune villlians that they could put in the next film.
Give me another guy like Scarecrow, something I can buy within the confines of the film and not feel silly about it. Thats the thing that seperates Batman Begins from, say, Spider-Man, X-Men, or pretty much any other superhero franchise, and that is a big part of what made it so good to me. Bringing such a disruptive element into the next film makes no sense to me.
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If there has to be a Joker, they oughta get Tim Roth. He's great.
This doesn't make sense to me. I'm sorry, maybe it's just me, but I can't picture a 3 meter beast made of mud fitting into the world of Batman Begins.
WULFER said:
Hey WULFER, I already know Hamill is the Joker's voice actor in the cartoon series. That's all good, but he wouldn't work at ****ing all in a live-action film.
That was his point. He was [WRONGLY] saying that the Joker is just as cartoonish as Clayface.jett said:
Sure, the Joker from the animated series wouldn't work in the Batman Begins universe, but that's not the only version of the Joker out there. The homocidal maniac found in a lot of the great comics will fit Batman Begins 2 amazingly well. I can easily imagine that character really coming to life out of the Narrows and just being a sadistic ****er.
Jade Knight 08
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How about "Brent Spiner" from Star Trek: TNG aka Lt. Commander Data?
*runs*
*runs*
pinkatrophe
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jett said:
bionic77 said:
Oh no, differences in personal tastes, how will we every reach homogeneity when there are those who *gasp* have different opinions? You're all arguing subjective beliefs and it only gets stupid when there are those harpooning others for having different tastes than their own.
Regardless of who gets picked, I'm sure they'll make a good Batman. Constantly writing "Paul Bettany ftw!" isn't making it any more true.
HyperZone<3 said:
oh man, you should definitely get more familiar with the comics then... Joker has become one of the most fully realized villains in all of Batman history over the years.
Not only does he fit into the whole gritty world, but he's genuinely frightening at his most well written - a truly maniacal serial killer/psychopath. It's terrifying the type of sadistic pleasure he gets from his often violent crimes, and I can't think of a character more perfect for Christopher Nolan to adapt.
I don't see why this is so big of an argument. Nolan and Goyer need to go sketch out the character, what role he plays in the film. You bring in all these candidates, tell them exactly what you're looking for, and let them perform. Then pick who strikes you as serving the role the best. It's just not going to be like Batman, where Christian Bale was nearly the unanimous internet choice before a rehearsal. Joker's just too tough fit.
damn guys... the more I think about it, the more I think that Robin Williams could be ****ing awesome in this role. Honestly... it'd be different than what most are used to, but I thikn that no matter what Joker is going to be different. And if you want just a sleazy murderer/rapist, Williams would rule. Just imagine him cackling and yelling down an alley: "What's the matter, Batsy? Can't take a joke?! HAHAHAHAAAAA!!!" then breaking down and hearing him say shit like, "I'm your greatest weakness, you masked freak! You can't kill me! *explosion* *Joker's cackle again*"
I dunno. I think that'd be so awesome.
I dunno. I think that'd be so awesome.
But why should he be tall and lean?Dan said:
If you want someone who LOOKS like joker, then yeah, the other people in this thread would all look better. But if you want someone who can actually embody Joker, then I think Robin Williams blows everyone else clear out of the water, and if you ask me the thing that made Batman Begins great is that it's the first comic book movie in a long time to take substance over style (although style was pretty good too).
The joker's "comedy" and "insanity" do not involve random incoherent babbling and acting like someone in dire need of ritalin.
I can't imagine Joker going up to batman and being like "earth to venus come in ground control, this is major tom WHOA nelly the cat's pajamas beep neep neep" and scrinching his face up and shit.
I mean, I would love dearly for Batman Continues to fail so they make the 3rd one GOOD, but even I don't wish Robin Williams on this movie.
I can't imagine Joker going up to batman and being like "earth to venus come in ground control, this is major tom WHOA nelly the cat's pajamas beep neep neep" and scrinching his face up and shit.
I mean, I would love dearly for Batman Continues to fail so they make the 3rd one GOOD, but even I don't wish Robin Williams on this movie.
Call me nuts, call me insane but seriously Owen Wilson could do a major vilianous role makeover. If he wanted to be treated seriously and graduate from the frat pack, he should take it. He has the height, the precense, the anoyance factor that will purposely get under the auidence's skin. The Joker should be loved to hate instead just love.
Does this face not anoy you?
Does this face not anoy you?
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