analog_future
Resident Crybaby
The MSI Claw A8 has Z2 Extreme and goes for $999.
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Kacho
Gold Member
Huh? A decent one?
Kvally
Member
Any of your Play Anywhere games that you bought on Xbox are NATIVELY supported on the Xbox Ally. No streaming involved.
MisterXDTV
Member
Just watch the video and you will get it
Xbox games can be played only via streaming...
It's not my fault they want to call it "a console", when it's actually a fucking PC
It's Phil's magic lies again
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Ok?
Did anyone anywhere say it was going to run xbox console games natively on this?
It's a Rog Ally. A PC hand-held like Steamdeck, it's not just a streaming device like Portal.
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MisterXDTV
Member
Kenshin775
Member
Yes. I bought a tiny Gateway laptop PC on Black Friday deal for $200 a few years ago. it was awful. I'm talking about doing basic things like homework, browsing the web and running stock/brokerage account programs.
djjinx2
Member
Stop shitting up the thread.Sure, you play the PC versions, just like any other Windows machine on the market...
It's a fully blown Windows PC handheld why you bringing a dumb (as in Hardware not meant as a diss) streaming device in here?
Your blatantly trolling man. Reported.
MisterXDTV
Member
I'm trolling because I said it doesn't run Xbox games?
Please report me for stating the truth
Kacho
Gold Member
Oh, I thought you were talking about a PC for gaming.
Kenshin775
Member
Sure, you play the PC versions, just like any other Windows machine on the market...
Gamer enthusiasts don't cares what exe. file its running on. If its a game you own on Xbox and you can play it on PC without having to buy it again and it plays with the Xbox UI, that's good. Casuals really don't care at all, casuals don't even know what a console is. They just say "playstation" or "Xbox" or "videogame system".
It's also over 1300 games from your library and growing. This is more games than Switch had from the Wii U generation library at launch which was 0.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I'm trolling because I said it doesn't run Xbox games?
Please report me for stating the truth
MisterXDTV
Member
Casuals won't buy this this thing anyway, so I'm not sure what are you talking about
How many SteamDecks were sold again???
Kvally
Member
Yup, installed not streamed, at no additional cost, one save file shared, shared achievements, pick up where you left off. Pretty sick. Imagine if you had to buy the game more than once.Sure, you play the PC versions, just like any other Windows machine on the market...
When does a gamer care what a file type is, lol??MisterXDTV
Member
Yup, installed not streamed, at no additional cost, one save file shared, shared achievements, pick up where you left off. Pretty sick. Imagine if you had to buy the game more than once.
Don't worry: games will be optimized for sure for this machine
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Kvally
Member
That works for us gamers!Don't worry: games will be optimized for sure for this machine
I don't think potential XBOX Ally users, whether they're Xbox console users or not, care about whether it's correct to call it a PC or a console.
Only people like you that only care because it gives you the narrative you're looking for.
Whoever is interested in that Rog Ally will likely pay more attention to what is or what offer but how It is called. Firstly because is a 900$ devices and the potencial buyer is a well informed gamer.
They see it being a portable device, they'll be able to natively play a large part of the Xbox PC catalog, the Steam catalog, and any other store (where PlayStation games are located), and the security of game support being assured and not dependent on sales.
XBOX console users who want a portable device and are interested in it will do so for all the reasons mentioned above and because the connectivity with Xbox consoles and the Xbox ecosystem in general—a.k.a. cross-progression, PlayAnywhere, GamePass, etc.—is great, and there's no other option other than a Windows-based devices.
But hey!! It's a PC, you've already said it... Now let people discuss what's really important...
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Kenshin775
Member
4 million, but SteamDecks aren't sold in store though. I agree casuals will not Buy the Xbox Ally X for $900 but if the lower spec Xbox ally is $500 or $550 that is very comparable to Switch 2 price so it may sell pretty decent.
Cyberpunkd
Member
What's really important it's the fact of being a rebranded Ally with absolutely nothing new. I can get a discounted Ally X for 500€ now, wtf I as an "informed customer" would buy this?
drganon
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MisterXDTV
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Topher
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Steam Deck isn't too weak to output 4k. Just doesn't make sense in handheld mode.
MisterXDTV
Member
You know that Switch 2 is a real console with real exclusive games optimized for it, right?
It's like comparing apples with oranges
Topher
Identifies as young
Huh? No it isn't
MisterXDTV
Member
Emphasis on Xbox console. once again
First, It is not really true.
Second good for you if you prefer other options... That is something legitimate and understandable, another thing is coming to a thread to campaign against a device just because it is linked to XBOX that is what is doing the person I quotes
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vaibhavpisal
Member
Where I live they discount cheaper Rog Ally to pretty low levels, about $400. Higher end X model holds its price.
Pretty good at that point. Its Switch 2 performance level apparently for similar price, but pc library.
Topher
Identifies as young
For Xbox console owners there are a lot of Xbox games that this will play natively on the device so no, it isn't comparable to PS Portal
Onironauta
Member
All handhelds with 890m, 8040s, 8050s and 8060s GPUs are more powerful than this, but more expensive
But my point is that there other handhelds in a similar price range with similar specs and better design, bigger screen (Legion Go, MSI Claw, etc.)
Also, SteamOS is better than Windows for these devices
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splattered
Member
Not quite as bad as everyone was expecting... I may actually have to bite the bullet and pick up a couple of these for the wife and i
DeVeAn
Member
Not quite able to emulate Series X titles.
MisterXDTV
Member
Also original Xbox Emultation sucks big time
Gambit2483
Member
I meant its docked output capabilities though...
Idk, I don't have steam deck so maybe I'm just misunderstanding its docked capability and why it can't do so easily what Switch 2 seems to.
graywolf323
Member
it also has a bigger screen
Asus ROG Xbox Ally X vs Lenovo Legion Go 2 vs MSI Claw A8: Which next-gen gaming handheld should you buy?
Which one should you buy this year?
what will be interesting is what price the Legion Go 2 comes in at since it has more RAM and a larger OLED screen
Topher
Identifies as young
I meant its docked output capabilities though...
Idk, I don't have steam deck so maybe I'm just misunderstanding its docked capability and why it can't do so easily what Switch 2 seems to.
Ah.....I follow. I think that is more about bandwidth than anything else. Steam Deck really isn't designed to be a hybrid like Switch 2. Think that's what DF was saying in one of their recent videos
Onironauta
Member
It's a PC so you can output at 4k if you want, but the GPU is weak and will struggle to render at native 1080p in modern games
Also, it has RDNA 3.5 architecture, which means it doesn't support FSR 4 (AI upscaling) unlike newer RDNA 4 desktop GPUs
The dock is literally just a dock, it doesn't boost anything
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Kvally
Member
That's a given.
kevboard
Member
not sure if this is a good or a bad thing.
is it loading this fast because of the speed of the system, or is it loading this fast because most of the stuff is already running in the background.
if it's the latter, that wouldn't be a good thing.
DeVeAn
Member
True. JSRF runs well enough. Only OG Xbox I don't have easy access to.
Cyberpunkd
Member
Wait, what?Be warned! You might be reported too
I am not campaigning about anything, in fact after Steam Deck I'm 100% sure my next gaming device will be a PC handheld.First, It is not really true.
Second good for you if you prefer other options... That is something legitimate and understandable, another thing is coming to a thread to campaign against a device just because it is linked to XBOX that is what is doing the person I quotes
If the title is available on PC you can play it, which I think vast majority of Series X titles are.
DeVeAn
Member
They are not the vast majority unfortunately. 20 of the 400+ games I own are play anywhere.
twilo99
Member
They are going to need to do some optimizing for these handhelds so it should benefit Windows gaming in general
devblogs.microsoft.com
Introducing Advanced Shader Delivery - DirectX Developer Blog
This year at gamescom, Microsoft is highlighting new gaming features coming for Windows, particularly for handheld devices. We want to highlight one of the DirectX team’s most exciting new contributions to the PC gaming ecosystem, which will make its debut on the new ROG Xbox Ally and ROG Xbox...
devblogs.microsoft.com
we get the ram and performance save they promised regardless so I think it doesn't really matter, I am happy that it function like a full pc, this might even be a good laptop alternative
MisterXDTV
Member
Who would have guessed I was right all along...
Can you play your Xbox games natively: NO
It's a PC with an Xbox sticker: but guess what? It's not an Xbox at all
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kevboard
Member
true, but more perfomance and memory savings are always good. so they should try to load actually only 100% vital stuff imo.