I've always thought the mantra of marketing teams were to be clear , precise AND to target the info at the lowest nominator. Would love to be a fly on the wall in their offices. Find out if they're doing it on purpose OR if they've got their heads so far up their asses that they don't see how they've muddied the water.
Hard to blame him, to be honest.
You can't blame anyone else but Microsoft.
There's that one guy who you called out too.
He should know better but this all starts with Microsoft's messaging. When everything is an Xbox after decades of it being a console brand, confusion is normal. I expect those Best Buy returns to be plentiful for these ROG Xbox Ally units. I wonder how much more confusing it is going to get when they launch their traditional Xbox console and the OEM "Xbox" consoles? If they can get the Xbox games compatibility right it probably will not matter but if they do not, I can see it being even more confusing than this situation.
That's the classic MS owngoal marketing at work. Instead of preventing any confusion, they would rather be technically correct and make their customers angry.
That's like saying GAF users would never be confused about the WiiU not just being a Wii Peripheral. it doesn't matter what we feel in here, what matters is what the normal customers would think.
It's a handheld PC , isn't this obvious? As much as it pains le to say - maybe some people should really learn the hard fucking way and use their brain once in a while?
Apparently, it isn't obvious to a lot of people since there is so much confusion surrounding the product.
Is it the same rude awakening Playstion portal owners got when they realized it didn't play Playstation games natively despite having Playstation in the name???Apparently, it isn't obvious to a lot of people since there is so much confusion surrounding the product.
Which "some" people should learn their lesson? Xbox customers? They are the ones that matter and so far, I do not see a lot of positivity surrounding these devices and the way it has been handled. The non tech Xbox customers are going to be in for a rude awakening when they find out this "Xbox" handheld doesn't play Xbox games natively. These are the types of things that can cause a normal customer to lose confidence in a brand. So sure, let's put it on the customer to learn the hard fucking way instead of marketing the device properly. It is only going to hurt the Xbox brand anyway.
Yea, I've awknowledged that is a problem for them thus all the "This is an Xbox" marketing. It does seem to be part of a change in direction for MS and is also probably a way of prepping the field for the "Hybrid" console if rumors are true.
Playstation made it clear that Portal is a peripheral. That you need a console separately.
I am sure there were some people confused but the marketing and talk around the Portal was very clear from the beginning that it was nothing more than a streaming device that required a PS5 (at the time of launch). Based on my years of managing B&M stores, I would be willing to bet if I walk into a Best Buy or GameStop when this thing launches and ask an employee if it will play my Xbox games, the answer will be yes.
Sony made it very clear it's a remote play device for the PS5 when it was first announced.
It's hyporcritical because some are saying that if it has "Xbox" in the name, it should play those games natively. I'm pointing out that it doesn't have to be true citing the Portal as an example that we have of branding meaning it doesn't have to be natively played.
Weird comparison. It's a peripheral that plays nothing on its own, versus a dedicated device.
I've said it several times already. Yes, it is a problem for MS as well.Are you really telling me you do not see the way these two devices have been presented to the public? Even removing that,Topher pointed it out to you that the Portal did get criticized at launch. #SonyToo
I'm not making a comparison of the devices. I'm making a comparison of using the name brand and how expectations are different for both of them.
... that's an Xbox... apparently
That's because it's basically just the Asus Ally 2.
I don't think this device is meant for the average consumer. Like, maybe they do a commercial for NFL games but I seriously doubt it.
In the case of the Portal, you use the brand name because it's for use with your PlayStation (5).
I agree. It not obvious why it has that branding either other than I think prepping the field for a Hybrid console. Or maybe because the front end launcher is Xbox-centric despite not playing those games natively (even though it will have Play Anywhere titles).
It all comes down to the marketing.
I don't think a regular Ally 2 would have Xbox grips on it, which the previewers have said makes a big difference for comfort.
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and I are saying, but somehow we are hypocrites?
Isn't it just the PC version of Xbox games? I believe that is where the confusion comes in.
Sure, but id argue it's mostly irrelevant in this case. A million sold is the best case scenario IMO.
Okay, but the PS4, PS3 and PSP all still played PlayStation games? I know where you're coming from, but the comparison still does not work.
They all played PlayStation games, yes. As opposed to this device being capable of playing PC games sold from the Xbox app.
