ROG Xbox Ally X price leaked.

How is original Rog a failure?
MicroSD card fiasco could be considered a failure. It was never really fixed as the design was flawed.

Overall, the device wasn't bad but proprietary eGPU port and SD card issues were annoying.

Personally I think Xbox Ally X having the same 7" screen, and same 24GB RAM amount for likely $1000 US (plus tax) make it a non starter vs Lenovo and MSI. Those two will be just as expensive but will come with 8" screens and 32GB RAM.

Going to be interesting to see what happens later in the year. Personally I am going to wait till UDNA handhelds and/or Steam Deck 2 with my current Deck OLED (sold my Ally).
 
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MicroSD card fiasco could be considered a failure. It was never really fixed as the design was flawed.

Overall, the device wasn't bad but proprietary doc and SD card issues were annoying.

Personally I think Xbox Ally X having the same 7" screen, and same 24GB RAM amount for likely $1000 US (plus tax) make it a non starter vs Lenovo and MSI. Those two will be just as expensive but will come with 8" screens and 32GB RAM.

Going to be interesting to see what happens later in the year. Personally I am going to wait till UDNA handhelds and/or Steam Deck 2 with my current Deck OLED (sold my Ally).

Yeah....the microSD thing was bad, but if we are talking about failure as far as units sold then that is really hard to gauge, I think. Can't compare it to consoles. More like gaming laptops and such.

Definitely more competition this time around.
 
Jez corden defending the price on twitter.


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"not as bad as I thought"
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I can't wait for the next xbox HOME console to be announced. You just think this is bad. You ain't seen nothing yet.
 
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Yeah....the microSD thing was bad, but if we are talking about failure as far as units sold then that is really hard to gauge, I think. Can't compare it to consoles. More like gaming laptops and such.

Definitely more competition this time around.
For the original ROG Ally, I believe Best Buy had to put a disclaimer on their page for a while that the device had a really high return rate. I also remember some sort of internal leak saying it was their most returned item that year.

But whether that was due to actual device failure, or customers being unhappy because they didn't realize what it was or how to use it, its hard to say.
 
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I know he was referring to the website.

So no, I will not "calm my ass". Been reading too much clownery surrounding this desperate infiltration of the PC gaming space.



Asus are a hardware manufacturer and AIB partner with a very bad reputation.

Everyone in the PC building/gaming space knows who they are, it's just that most want nothing to do with them.

You seem so stressed, man. No point in getting worked up by any of microsofts failures that might come around. This push into pc gaming is not really going to amount to much more than some companies making small profits of a few hundred thousand. Maybe a million or two handhelds.

And on Asus. You are so far off the mark its wild. Asus are a huge manufacturer of components. They are number 1 with MSI chomping at their heels to take them down.

They now have the most successful mouse and keyboard which allowed the them to create full carbon fibre mice and keyboards which recently launched.

Asus are huge, massive. The ROG series gpus are the most expensive in the market and people buy them.

I dont know where you got your miss information from but please dont spread it here.
 
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Already seeing an endless parade of retarded bots going "I can get this and play every Xbox game and ps game!"

Conveniently ignoring they can't play any "Xbox" games on it, only PC games.
 
why people dont have any sense of reality? This is not a subsidized console. This is going to be 900$ US like the Asus Rog Ally X price is.

This is not an Xbox replacement. This is just a portable PC with an Xbox-verified logo on it. nothing more.
Maybe they don't want it to be a mass market item, but a niche premium item. But at $1000 it will never be anything but Niche.
 
Their review is a year old at this point. There's been nothing transformative out in the PC handheld space in this time, and indeed prices have continued to creep upwards for many things PC gaming.

SteamOS has been made available for a wide range of hardware and allows for better performance on hardware such as the Legion Go, but yeh, no big deal.

The ally doesn't even make their top 5 currently available PC handheld ranking:


You seem so stressed, man. No point in getting worked up by any of microsofts failures that might come around. This push into pc gaming is not really going to amount to much more than some companies making small profits of a few hundred thousand. Maybe a million or two handhelds.

Nah its just boring seeing the same used car salesmen try to do the same bullshit in threads concerning PC gaming.

And on Asus. You are so far off the mark its wild. Asus are a huge manufacturer of components. They are number 1 with MSI chomping at their heels to take them down.

They now have the most successful mouse and keyboard which allowed the them to create full carbon fibre mice and keyboards which recently launched.

Asus are huge, massive. The ROG series gpus are the most expensive in the market and people buy them.

I dont know where you got your miss information from but please dont spread it here.

Firstly if you want to talk about "misinformation" then you ought to start with the posts from O Ozriel throughout this thread.

Secondly, are you just going to pretend all of this doesn't exist because Xbox have decided to partner with them and you happen to work for a company whose job it is to sell products on behalf of Asus?:







 
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Already seeing an endless parade of retarded bots going "I can get this and play every Xbox game and ps game!"

Conveniently ignoring they can't play any "Xbox" games on it, only PC games.
TBF this is partly the fault of MS as both this and the rumored upcoming Xbox console had/have similar talking points about playing Xbox (ALLY=Play Anywhere & PC GP vs Console=Legacy) and having access to 3rd party storefronts (both).

If I were a cynical man I could easily belive they're purposely neglecting to remove this confusion. I mean they do have a PR department...and they do have a lot of money for marketing.

Ah well, what do I know. I'm not in charge of a mega corporation. 😁
 
Handheld? ew no.
Let me sell it for you:
With a Xbox branding!



The Asus Xbox Ally has a Z2 A APU, which is on the same level like the Steam Deck und maybe behind the Switch 2.
So, why should i pay more for the Xbox Ally?
The Xbox Ally X on the other hand has a Ryzen AI Z2 Extreme.
How powerful is the new APU?
I have no clue, but the MSi Claw A8 has the Z2 Extreme without the AI"stuff" and you can watch the power here
Is that worth so much money? I don't know.
Not for me.

And in "defense" of MS is this device from Asus, with a Xbox branding and not a real Xbox device, like the XSX.
It's like buying a random pc in walmart, with a xbox sticker on it.
 
SteamOS has been made available for a wide range of hardware and allows for better performance on hardware such as the Legion Go, but yeh, no big deal.

The ally doesn't even make their top 5 currently available PC handheld ranking:




Nah its just boring seeing the same used car salesmen try to do the same bullshit in threads concerning PC gaming.



Firstly if you want to talk about "misinformation" then you ought to start with the posts from O Ozriel throughout this thread.

Secondly, are you just going to pretend all of this doesn't exist because Xbox have decided to partner with them and you happen to work for a company whose job it is to sell products on behalf of Asus?:









Everyone is well aware of their customer service issues and poor support on certain products. I cant speak about their prebuilds.

Its got nothing to do with who xbox has partnered with. It seems to me like you are now attacking the rog ally because Microsoft have partnered with them more than anything.

Pretending that Asus isn't the number one hardware manufacturer on the planet because xbox partnered with them is a odd to me.

Also. I work with plenty of partners. Asus is just one of many.

Gigabyte
Msi
Zotac
Palit
The list goes on. Don't try and do some shill talking now the convo isn't going your way please, dude.
 
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Seems dumb. You're equally locked out of new release games on this just like you are on the OG Steam Deck. Has anyone compiled a list of games unplayable on the Steam Deck APU but are playable on this? I reckon it's a fairly small number.
 
All of this drama just because Microsoft paid ASUS to put their name on the box.
I bet the device wouldn't be getting this much attention from you people who aren't normally involved in this PC Handheld space if it wasn't for that.
This is basically the ROG Ally X 2 with a Microsoft sticker and a beta version of a new windows update and ASUS was always going to release this device regardless of Microsoft's involvement just like they are going to release the "ROG Ally 3" in 2027 with a "Z3 Extreme" chip


How well does it run cyberpunk and for how long?


You can basically search MSI Claw 8 AI+ [Insert game name here] and you will get your answer because this isn't technically new hardware it's been around since January
 
Seems dumb. You're equally locked out of new release games on this just like you are on the OG Steam Deck. Has anyone compiled a list of games unplayable on the Steam Deck APU but are playable on this? I reckon it's a fairly small number.

what are you talking about? that whole comment is confusing.
who is locking out what and why?
 
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Maybe they don't want it to be a mass market item, but a niche premium item. But at $1000 it will never be anything but Niche.
It's not a mass market item. It's a portable PC. MS adding an Xbox logo doesn't change anything. If MS didn't ask Asus, Asus would have done Rog Ally X2 and would be the same device minus the Xbox button ( which doesn't do anything btw outside of opening the Xbox Gamebar.. the right button besides it does the exact same fucking thing, it opens the Asus Gamebar which... You guessed it. shows your game library )

The whole thing being called an Xbox device is just a cheap way to tell people," hey! look, this is an Xbox and can play Xbox games", as if any PC from the ice age can't do that.

The whole idea of this specific portability is a niche market. Because for 900 to 1k, you can get a laptop with a 4060/5060 that stomps on this device with a bigger screen and is still portable.

You have to be a dedicated handheld gamer to pick this over a small 14 inch gaming laptop. which... if that's what you want, more power to you ( speaking in general )

if I am going with this handheld. i would rather own a switch 2 or switch 1, or even any of the retroid pocket devices with android OS, and play retro games or stream games from PC if I am home. It won't cost me 20% of the price of this thing
 
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Everyone is well aware of their customer service issues and poor support on certain products. I cant speak about their prebuilds.

Its got nothing to do with who xbox has partnered with. It seems to me like you are now attacking the rog ally because Microsoft have partnered with them more than anything.

Pretending that Asus isn't the number one hardware manufacturer on the planet because xbox partnered with them is a odd to me.

Also. I work with plenty of partners. Asus is just one of many.

Gigabyte
Msi
Zotac
Palit
The list goes on. Don't try and do some shill talking now the convo isn't going your way please, dude.

Their popularity has nothing to do with the quality of their products and the quality of their aftercare. They have a poor reputation in the PC building space, end of story.

Also speaking of misinformation and more application of the victim mentality (the bold):


Asus are 5th.

Sorry not sorry that the shill behaviour will be called out. Like I said, long road ahead for you guys if this is how you wish to go about things.
 
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Their popularity has nothing to do with the quality of their products and the quality of their aftercare. They have a poor reputation in the PC building space, end of story.

Also speaking of misinformation and more application of the victim mentality (the bold):


Asus are 5th.

Sorry not sorry that the shill behaviour will be called out. Like I said, long road ahead for you guys if this is how you wish to go about things.

You just listed oem builders. That includes office pcs and none gaming.

Asus are the number 1 gaming brand ya sausage.

You're the shill behaviour dude. You shill hard for sony undercover and call everyone else shills. Its getting tiring.
 
Everyone is well aware of their customer service issues and poor support on certain products. I cant speak about their prebuilds.

Its got nothing to do with who xbox has partnered with. It seems to me like you are now attacking the rog ally because Microsoft have partnered with them more than anything.

Pretending that Asus isn't the number one hardware manufacturer on the planet because xbox partnered with them is a odd to me.

Also. I work with plenty of partners. Asus is just one of many.

Gigabyte
Msi
Zotac
Palit
The list goes on. Don't try and do some shill talking now the convo isn't going your way please, dude.
Asus RMA sucks though. There were well reported instances of them deceiving and basically abandoning customers with OG ROG Ally.

Then there was that whole 7000 series AMD fiasco with motherboards power envelope set too high. There have been numerous instances of RMA issues with their laptops, pre-built and so on. They are just a shitty company to deal with.

Mind you, Gigabyte also sucks (exploding PSUs anyone?), ASRock had bunch of issues just recently and MSI also had problems.

Personally I have been sticking with MSI lately but it's all a crapshoot now days.
 
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Of course the dude who was calling $699 for a PS5 Pro "eyewatering" is now OK with €899 when it's MS's product.
He's actually not dumb with that post. Unfortunately that post worked well to get marching orders and talking points out before most of us even knew this was a story. I'm just surprised he didn't slap a "Sony too" on there. I'm sure it will be the most upvoted comment.

"Not as bad as I thought" is the perfect response if the console wars were still going on. Hmmm...
 
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Asus RMA sucks though. There were well reported instances of them deceiving and basically abandoning customers with OG ROG Ally.

Then there was that whole 7000 series AMD fiasco with motherboards power envelope set too high. There have been numerous instances of RMA issues with their laptops, pre-built and so on. They are just a shitty company to deal with.

Mind you, Gigabyte also sucks (exploding PSUs anyone?), ASRock had bunch of issues just recently and MSI also had problems.

Personally I have been sticking with MSI lately but it's all a crapshoot now days.

Yup. The rog ally fiasco was bad. A rushed to launch product with a major design flaw.

Im only stating facts on Asus. Ghg came in here having a period because he's clearly upset this is an xbox branded device and im fed up of people being called shills because they dont share the sony fuelled opinion on here. Its getting annoying and ruining the community imo.
 
A lot of newer games run poorly enough on Steam Deck that I would call them unplayable. How man titles does the performance boost in the Ally X give you access to?

I mean, the Ally X should be more than 2x as powerful as the Deck. maybe more... it will probably be mostly bandwidth limited whenever it doesn't double the performance.

afaik all the games that struggle on the Deck run relatively fine on the current Ally X, and that one has an older chip. (Z1 Extreme vs Z2 Extreme)

so if the Z1 Exteme already makes most games that struggle on the Deck playable, the Z2 Extreme will be fine.
 
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The ally doesn't even make their top 5 currently available PC handheld ranking:


In that link, they literally say the Ally X was just ousted as the best overall PC handheld by the Legion Go S, just this year.

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They cite the MSI Claw AI as their best overall Windows handheld, but in the review for that device they pitch it as a toss up decision vs the Ally X

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…oddly enough, they aren't negative about the prices for both the Ally X and the MSI Claw. They're also citing the $900 pricing for the Claw as 'downright reasonable' too.

If you were trying to paint the picture of PC Gamer recanting on their high praise of the Ally X, I'm afraid that's not rooted in reality.


Seems dumb. You're equally locked out of new release games on this just like you are on the OG Steam Deck. Has anyone compiled a list of games unplayable on the Steam Deck APU but are playable on this? I reckon it's a fairly small number.

Have you tried reading a bit? You'd know a couple of things if you did

- it's not yet released, so nobody's going to have compiled a list

- the Z2 Extreme is significantly more powerful than the SoC in the Steamdeck.
 
He's actually not dumb with that post. Unfortunately that post worked well to get marching orders and talking points out before most of us even knew this was a story.

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It's the same price as the current Ally and Ally X at retail with the better chipset.

Some of y'all are just being plain bizarre here.
 
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It's the same price as the current Ally and Ally X at retail with the better chipset.

Some of y'all are just being plain bizarre here.
It's not clear just yet what the US price will be. We won't know till sometime in August from the looks of it.

I suspect both Asus and MS will want the tariff picture to solidify first.

In Europe, it should be €899 from the sound of it… but I am not sure how much an Xbox branded handheld has a market there.
 
Asus are the number 1 gaming brand ya sausage.
What are you basing that on? Top 5, but number 1?

As for the price of the ROG Xbox Ally X, it is priced exactly as I expected (about the same as the ROG Ally X it is replacing). I am still interested but that is because I am interested in what the handheld PC market offers with these new chips. If it is a winner, I will bite. If there are better options, I will pass. Branding really isn't going to play a role in my decision.
 
You just listed oem builders. That includes office pcs and none gaming.

Asus are the number 1 gaming brand ya sausage.

Number one "gaming brand" based on what metric? Their own marketing that you're now repeating on their behalf?:


Because there's literally zero sales data that's publically available to back up their flimsy marketing claims.

But it's funny that it's quickly gone from them being the "number one hardware manufacters" to "gaming brand" because the former is so easily disprove. But it also shows how impressionable you are when you're willing to take a company's marketing content and use it as fact.


You're the shill behaviour dude. You shill hard for sony undercover and call everyone else shills. Its getting tiring.

Don't worry, no need to shill for products that are able to stand on their own feet.

I also haven't forgotten when you decided to do exactly the same thing when the original ally launched:


You and O Ozriel misinforming and misleading people throughout that thread.

Guess we will have to witness it all over again.

In that link, they literally say the Ally X was just ousted as the best overall PC handheld by the Legion Go S, just this year.

That's exactly the point - I said the market dynamics have shifted and you attempted to claim they haven't.

Glad you can now see that things have in fact changed.
 
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