Roger Federer vs Tiger Woods - Who is the best athlete ever?

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Athletic achievement: Lance Armstrong.
Dude gets cancer, recovers from it, and goes on to win the most physically demanding event 7 years in a row.

There's no debate.

Most impressive: Usain Bolt
The 100m dash record has tons of clout to it, and this dude breaks the thing like it's nothing. He literally stopped trying when he realized he'd won the race and still beat the record soundly.

Most Dominant: Tiger Woods/Roger Federer tie
Both of these guys are true competitors. You can never count them out, and they are both powerhouses in their sport.

Extreme technical skill with pure heart.
 
RubxQub said:
Athletic achievement: Lance Armstrong.
Dude gets cancer, recovers from it, and goes on to win the physically demanding event 7 years in a row.

There's no debate.

Most impressive: Usain Bolt
The 100m dash record has tons of clout to it, and this dude breaks the thing like it's nothing. He literally stopped trying when he realized he'd won the race and still beat the record soundly.

Most Dominant: Tiger Woods/Roger Federer tie
Both of these guys are true competitors. You can never count them out, and they are both powerhouses in their sport.

Extreme technical skill with pure heart.
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Why do you leave Armstrong out from the most dominant category? Seven years is a hell of a lot.
 
Operations said:
Why do you leave Armstrong out from the most dominant category? Seven years is a hell of a lot.
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There's a lot of team surrounding him, so it's hard to call him out as the most dominant.

His team is easily the most dominant, but his own personal story to me is truly the greatest athletic achievement I've witnessed.

Michael Phelps should probably be in my list somewhere now that I think about it.
 
viakado said:
golf isn't even a sport. its a game.
if golf we're a sport, then cheese would be considered a sport as well.
edit: whoops. chess. fucking chess:lol
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But seriously. Gretzky.

ESPN said:
When he retired in 1999, he had scored 2,857 points in the NHL. That's about one point for every record that he owns, or so it seems. Gordie Howe, Gretzky's idol as a youngster, has the second most points in NHL history and he's more than 1,000 points behind him. Gretzky has more assists (1,963) than any other player has points. Known primarily for his playmaking, Gretzky has scored a record 894 goals in his 20 NHL seasons.

When few players were scoring 100 points in a season, Gretzky was surpassing 200. Four times he accomplished this feat, the only four times it has been done, peaking at 215 in 1985-86. Of the 11 times a player has scored more than 161 points, Gretzky has done it nine times and Mario Lemieux twice.

Gretzky shocked the hockey world by scoring 92 goals in 1981-82, beating Phil Esposito's record of 76 by 21 percent. Gretzky also has the second best season mark, with 87 goals in 1983-84. Nine times he scored more than 50 goals in the eighties.

The Hart and Ross trophies were his annual rewards that decade. He won the Hart (MVP) nine times, the most of any athlete in a team sport, and the Ross (scoring) seven times in the 1980s, plus three more times in the '90s. He was the dominant player on the dominant team of the mid-'80s, leading the Edmonton Oilers to four Stanley Cups in five seasons and twice being named MVP of the playoffs. He set post-season records for points (47 in 18 games) in 1985 and assists (31 in 19 games) in 1988.

In 1981, while still just 20 and in his third year in the NHL, Gretzky shattered the record shared by Maurice Richard and Mike Bossy of scoring 50 goals in 50 games. He accomplished it in just 39 games by scoring nine goals in Games 38 and 39.

Gretzky has the record for most assists in a season with 163 in 1985-86. He also holds down the second through seventh spots and 10 of the top 11. His consecutive scoring streak of 51 games to start the 1983-84 season is another record.
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Name someone who achieved in their sport what Gretzky did in his. Jordan and Woods are greats. So is Federer. But there is only one Great One.
 
Tiger Woods is an athlete sure, but he's not in Federer's league. Golf is a game middle aged men can continue to dominate into their 40s and early 50s. It's a game of skill.

Federer, Ali, Bo Jackson, Michael Jordan, great soccer/cricket players, etc? Those are great athletes.
 
PhoenixDark said:
Someone explain to me why Tyson's pic is in the OP, while Ali is nowhere to be found
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did you watch boxing?

Tyson is so unbelievably athletic.

Mike isn't the best boxer ever...not even close, but he sure as fuck was one of the most athletic ever with a combination of speed and power hardly anybody has ever matched. They used to say he moved so fast coming in on you that his feet never even touched the ground.

Ali...was just fast and extremely skillful. He isn't even on the ring magazine list of top punchers.
 
I would go for Eddy Merkx or Federer of the 2 athletes sportsman that I know.

Both are regarded as the greatest ever at their own sports and made it look easy and classy in the way they have bags of natural talent.
 
Sol.. said:
did you watch boxing?

Tyson is so unbelievably athletic.

Mike isn't the best boxer ever...not even close, but he sure as fuck was one of the most athletic ever with a combination of speed and power hardly anybody has ever matched. They used to say he moved so fast coming in on you that his feet never even touched the ground.

Ali...was just fast and extremely skillful. He isn't even on the ring magazine list of top punchers.
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I had this conversation with someone recently who was too young to remember Tyson in his prime and just how incredibly dominant and good he was. He was just a shell of his former self after getting out of prison, and unfortunately that is the legacy that many remember.
 
SnakeswithLasers said:
But seriously. Gretzky.



Name someone who achieved in their sport what Gretzky did in his. Jordan and Woods are greats. So is Federer. But there is only one Great One.
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I agree. No one destroyed records like Gretzky did.

Big-E said:
Tony Hand was better than Gretzky. Look him up.
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He played in MUCH weaker leagues though. While I think he would have been a top scorer if he persued an NHL career, I doubt he would even come close to Gretzky.
 
Bear Grylls.

He'd kill these pansies with a heavy stick used as a boomerang from twenty yards away and eat them. That's an athlete.
 
The Internet said:
I agree. No one destroyed records like Gretzky did.



He played in MUCH weaker leagues though. While I think he would have been a top scorer if he persued an NHL career, I doubt he would even come close to Gretzky.
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I was purely joking with Tony Hand but anyone who puts up like 4000 points is pretty good.
 
Esther Vergeer

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563 Career Wins (only 25 losses)
Is currently on a 360 match winning streak
 
There was also Jahangir Khan:

Jahangir Khan, HI, (born December 10, 1963, in Karachi, Pakistan) (sometimes spelled "Jehangir Khan") is a former World No. 1 professional squash player from Pakistan, who is considered by many to be the greatest player in the history of the game. During his career he won the World Open six times and the British Open a record ten times. Between 1981 and 1986, he was unbeaten in competitive play for five years. During that time he won 555 matches consecutively. This was not only the longest winning streak in squash history, but also one of the longest unbeaten runs by any athlete in top-level professional sports.
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Big-E said:
I was purely joking with Tony Hand but anyone who puts up like 4000 points is pretty good.
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Hahah, yeah I only found out about Hand a few years ago when a friend mentioned him. He has an autobiography out that I should read, his story sounds interesting.
 
If Tiger hasn't matched that dudes amount of majors, how can he even be considered the best in golf? (I don't know much about golf, just heard about some guy he is chasing)
 
PhoenixDark said:
Tiger Woods is an athlete sure, but he's not in Federer's league. Golf is a game middle aged men can continue to dominate into their 40s and early 50s. It's a game of skill.
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Nickalus winning the Masters at age 45 was huge, it doesn't really happen. Players in their 50's mostly move on to the senior/champions tour. You're either exaggerating or don't really know...


Mecha_Infantry said:
If Tiger hasn't matched that dudes amount of majors, how can he even be considered the best in golf? (I don't know much about golf, just heard about some guy he is chasing)
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he's well ahead of pace to do so, but you're right that it's still early to dub him the greatest of all time for that reason.
 
D4Danger said:
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Can you fucking imagine that train coming at you?

My god I'd die from fright alone.
 
PhoenixDark said:
Someone explain to me why Tyson's pic is in the OP, while Ali is nowhere to be found
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Tyson was a much more destructive boxer than Ali. Just go watch some of his knockout videos on YouTube...it's scary.
 
Should this be best ever athlete ever in their prime? Or over their entire career? Jordan was insane, prime Federer was fucking beastly, and golf takes crazy hand eye, but it's not physical in terms of how you would think of most other sports. Prime Tyson was also a fucking caged animal.
 
BrandNew said:
*bows* Federer *bows*

You have to be FIT AS FUCK to play tennis. You have to be even fitter and smarter to win 6 Wimbledons.
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Do people honestly think FedEx is the most athletic tennis player? He's REALLY good, but Nadal is pure athlete. They say he has double the rotation on his top spin than the average pro. Not to mention he's fast as balls and can run for days. Thats that soccer in him. Plus he's the only man in the world that can pull of capri pants. On any other dude...it's just gross.
 
The correct answer is Ben Roethlisberger if we include immortal beings. If we limit it to just humans than my vote is for Bo Jackson with Cedric Ceballos coming in a close second.
 
D4Danger said:
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Whats funny is that I used to get pissed playing mike tyson's Punch out because I thought that he was such CHEESE with his quick ass uppercuts... I stand corrected.. his punches were really that damn quick.

thing is he had the speed of roy Jones Jr and Mayweather JR, with ridiculous Power..
 
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