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lebron, not the kid.D4Danger said:
Roger Federer vs Tiger Woods - Who is the best athlete ever?
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viakado said:
I heard nike got like mad trained assassins ready to eliminate anybody who sees the tape.
I bet Lebron got dunked on so hard he fell back into his childhood when he got spanked by momma and he was like "momma momma i won't do it again momma" and they had to call her to bring him back.
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you get dunk on by this guy?Sol.. said:
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Exactly! Look at the fine caliber of athlete that can win a PGA Championship!SS4Gogita said:
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What's the big deal. People get dunked on. Happens to everyone. Why is Lebron any different. Do they think it's going to spoils some air of invincibility that he hasn't really built up yet.
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is baseball even a sport? i mean, the only good thing about baseball are the kevin costner movies so i have never really watched it, but as far as i can tell the only physical exertion is sometimes you have to run a circle. most of the time not even the whole circle, but like 1/3 of it. seems like more of a game like curling or chess or something.
Vestal said:
No, he's just contended with (and soundly beaten) guys like Roddick, who has recorded the four fastest serves ever in professional tennis, and Sampras, who held the record for Grand Slams at the time, and Andre Agassi, and.. pretty much everyone else in the course of his career so far.
Agassi said that Federer was the best he had ever played against.
His speed gets overlooked way too many times. If he kept on training like he did and his life didn't get fucked up so much he would be WAAAAY ahead of everyone else.Big-E said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB6L9a3Gybs
If only he didn't fire Rooney, oh what could have been.
A couple of things about Gretzky:
1: He's the only player to ever have a 200 point (you get a point for a goal or an assist) season, and he did it 4 times.
2: He has more assists than anyone else has points. If Gretzky never scored a goal (oh, he has the all-time goal record too) he would still be the all time points leader.
Gotta put Bob Beamon up there for his amazing long-jump in 1968: Prior to Beamons jump, the world record had been broken thirteen times since 1901, with an average increase of 6 cm (2½ in) and the largest increase being 15 cm (6 in). Beamons gold medal mark bettered the existing record by 55 cm (21¾ in.) as he became the first person to reach both 28 and 29 feet.
As to Federer, one can make the case Rod Laver was better. If he wasn't banned from the Grand Slam open events due to turning pro, he could have had 25+ majors. He swept the Grand Slams, turned pro, and for 6 years couldn't play in slams. He comes back and sweeps the slams for a second time. Only tennis pro to ever sweep the slams.
1: He's the only player to ever have a 200 point (you get a point for a goal or an assist) season, and he did it 4 times.
2: He has more assists than anyone else has points. If Gretzky never scored a goal (oh, he has the all-time goal record too) he would still be the all time points leader.
Gotta put Bob Beamon up there for his amazing long-jump in 1968: Prior to Beamons jump, the world record had been broken thirteen times since 1901, with an average increase of 6 cm (2½ in) and the largest increase being 15 cm (6 in). Beamons gold medal mark bettered the existing record by 55 cm (21¾ in.) as he became the first person to reach both 28 and 29 feet.
As to Federer, one can make the case Rod Laver was better. If he wasn't banned from the Grand Slam open events due to turning pro, he could have had 25+ majors. He swept the Grand Slams, turned pro, and for 6 years couldn't play in slams. He comes back and sweeps the slams for a second time. Only tennis pro to ever sweep the slams.
Big-E said:
Prime Tyson is up there. He had both excellent offense and excellent defense, the latter of which has often gone unnoticed by most people due to him being so devastating with his punches.
He famously lost to Buster Douglas, but the only thing that really slowed down his dominance was his jail term, where he didn't end up boxing again for over 4 years. He wasn't the same fighter when he came back. Who knows what would have happened if he hadn't gone to jail? That goes for Ali, too, who also lost several years of his prime due to a similar sort of reason (albeit under very different circumstances).
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A lot of fat alcoholics that smoke can play golf.
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Big-E said:
Obviously you're entitled to your opinion, but that is just plain wrong. If you want to limit it just to heavyweights, you might be able to make a case, although there will be a lot of disputes there too, but as someone else already mentioned, Sugar Ray Robinson is probably the best boxer ever, and there are a number of mddleweights that I'd take over Tyson.
Teetris said:
Exactly. He didn't train much at all, and thought it would be a blow out. It was already the beginning of the end for Tyson at that point. But despite all of that, he still nearly knocked Douglas out to save the day. Some thought that Douglas got a very long count, although that is highly debatable.
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levious said:
He was talking about the pros.
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yohhomario said:
To be fair, the shape Tiger is in is quite a bit different compared to many other golfers
Much of this depends on the sport that matters to you....
But for me the answer is clear...
The Legend:
In 1956, de Brito took Pelé to Santos, an industrial and port city in the state of São Paulo, to try out for professional club Santos Futebol Clube telling the directors at Santos that the 15-year-old would be "the greatest football player in the world."
During his time at Santos, Pelé played alongside many gifted players, including Zito, Pepe, and Coutinho; the latter partnered him in numerous one-two plays, attacks, and goals.
Pelé made his debut for Santos in 7 September 1956, scoring one goal in a 71 friendly victory over Corinthians. When the 1957 season started, Pelé was given a starting place in the first team and, at the age of just 16, became the top scorer in the league. Just ten months after signing professionally, the teenager was called up to the Brazil national team. After the World Cup in 1962, wealthy European clubs such as Real Madrid, Juventus and Manchester United tried to sign the young player, but the government of Brazil declared Pelé an "official national treasure" to prevent him from being transferred out of the country.
Highlights:
Pelé began playing for Santos at 15 and his national team at 16, and won his first World Cup at 17. :lol
Only footballer to be a part of three World Cup-winning teams
19561974 Santos 438 appearances - 474 goals
19571971 Brazil 92 appearances - 77 goals
Athlete of the Century, elected by world wide journalists, poll by French daily L'Equipe: 1981
Athlete of the Century, elected by International Olympic Committee: 1999
Athlete of the Century, by Reuters News Agency: 1999
But for me the answer is clear...
The Legend:
In 1956, de Brito took Pelé to Santos, an industrial and port city in the state of São Paulo, to try out for professional club Santos Futebol Clube telling the directors at Santos that the 15-year-old would be "the greatest football player in the world."
During his time at Santos, Pelé played alongside many gifted players, including Zito, Pepe, and Coutinho; the latter partnered him in numerous one-two plays, attacks, and goals.
Pelé made his debut for Santos in 7 September 1956, scoring one goal in a 71 friendly victory over Corinthians. When the 1957 season started, Pelé was given a starting place in the first team and, at the age of just 16, became the top scorer in the league. Just ten months after signing professionally, the teenager was called up to the Brazil national team. After the World Cup in 1962, wealthy European clubs such as Real Madrid, Juventus and Manchester United tried to sign the young player, but the government of Brazil declared Pelé an "official national treasure" to prevent him from being transferred out of the country.
Highlights:
Pelé began playing for Santos at 15 and his national team at 16, and won his first World Cup at 17. :lol
Only footballer to be a part of three World Cup-winning teams
19561974 Santos 438 appearances - 474 goals
19571971 Brazil 92 appearances - 77 goals
Athlete of the Century, elected by world wide journalists, poll by French daily L'Equipe: 1981
Athlete of the Century, elected by International Olympic Committee: 1999
Athlete of the Century, by Reuters News Agency: 1999
Teetris said:
No. Tyson fought lazily, something he did many times in his career, young and old. The point is that it wasn't some crazy abberation or fluke. He was outfought. And Holyfield dismantled him. Tyson's in my all time top five, but he's too inconsistent to be #1.
Because he never beat anyone good and he lost to Buster Douglas. In boxing if you are not good enough to beat decent boxers like Douglas you can't be considered one of the greatest for beating up on beefed up light heavyweights.Big-E said:
I would honestly put Foreman ahead of Tyson because he was just as dominating and at least he kicked Frazier's ass twice.
bionic77 said:
so by your standards, the alltime greats cannot lose? Everyone has lost. Federer, Woods, Jordan, Wilt Chamberlain, Bo Jackson etc, or whatever.
But when Tyson lost to Douglas, it was biggest upset in sports history, also the judge counted to slow, or else Tyson would had won the match when Douglas got up on 9.
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Teetris said:
I pray for the day we have MMA'ers with striking ability like that. FUCK.
No Fedor, no sale.
Winner.
And everyone calling Tyson the best boxer ever needs to stfu. "Tyson's the best boxer ever if you ignore half his career." how does that make a gawdamned lick of sense?
Fedor hasn't lost.
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Winner.
And everyone calling Tyson the best boxer ever needs to stfu. "Tyson's the best boxer ever if you ignore half his career." how does that make a gawdamned lick of sense?
darkwings said:
Fedor hasn't lost.
Boxing is very different than other sports. Yes if you lose in boxing to anyone other than a Hall of Famer it is going to massively hurt your reputation and place in the support. Remember when people use to say that Oscar De La Hoya might go down as one of the greats? That talk died down quick once he lost a few fights.darkwings said:
Remember Ali was undefeated until he came out of jail when he lost his first fight to Joe fucking Frazier. Ali then went on to beat him in the next two fights and beat everyone he ever fought until the end of his career when he was done. That is pretty much the same with all of the all time great fighters.
Tyson was very good but I wouldn't put him in the top 5 heavyweights because of how short his reign was and who he lost to. Simply put Ali or any of the all time great Heavys would never lose to Buster Douglas.
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