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Rogue One: A Star Wars Story |OT| They rebel - SPOILERS
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Doesn't the movie end with the escape of the Corvette from ANH?
I think so, I'm guessing it took a few more days to be powerful enough to destroy a whole planet.
prag16
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If this crap about the superlaser killing the heroes (even if it's underpowered and maybe just cracks the planet's crust instead of destroying it outright) I'm definitely in the "this messes with canon" camp. Cheapens the Alderaan spectacle, even if just a bit.
That said, everything else sounds great. Can't see it until Saturday, but can't wait. Fucking pumped.
That said, everything else sounds great. Can't see it until Saturday, but can't wait. Fucking pumped.
We already know they use it on Jedha though from the trailers, so what's the difference?
Alderaan wasn't first technically in the old Canon either. Old Canon the Death Star was used to blow up the World it was built over in order to keep the Stations existence a secret.
Rogue one is a Prequel as far as timeline goes but its a movie designed for Fans who already know what all this shit already is so even if a Planet is blown up in Rogue One it does nothing to the significance of Alderaan in the Main Movies.
If anything the entire Importance of Alderaan was it was a super important and powerful world that the Empire was giving no fucks about.
Rogue one is a Prequel as far as timeline goes but its a movie designed for Fans who already know what all this shit already is so even if a Planet is blown up in Rogue One it does nothing to the significance of Alderaan in the Main Movies.
If anything the entire Importance of Alderaan was it was a super important and powerful world that the Empire was giving no fucks about.
Probably gonna bail on the thread now. Already found out the key deets I wanted know re:
- Vader times
- How the team bites it
So I definitely wanna save some more surprises for myself. I'm definitely gonna be more uptight when it comes to VIII though given the uncharted territory.
Punching out
- Vader times
- How the team bites it
So I definitely wanna save some more surprises for myself. I'm definitely gonna be more uptight when it comes to VIII though given the uncharted territory.
Punching out
Was this official canon or part of the extended universe that Disney threw out? I can't keep track anymore.
Its old Canon that is now thrown out. At this point we really have no idea what happens order wise. Tarkin using it to take out a rival would certainly fit the character established
EU. They tested it out on the planet it orbited during construction, Despayre.
Cow Mengde
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I think testing the Death Star makes sense. How do you know this super weapon works without tests? It's possible the test strikes weren't able to completely blow up a planet yet since it's still being tested and perfected.
BrokenFiction
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Probably gonna bail on the thread now. Already found out the key deets I wanted know re:
- Vader times
- How the team bites it
So I definitely wanna save some more surprises for myself. I'm definitely gonna be more uptight when it comes to VIII though given the uncharted territory.
Punching out
If there's one thing I love from the SW universe, it's this lightspeed effect. So glad JJ brought it back.
Let's hope the review thread stays sane lol
Cross-Section
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Yes. Let's hope.
*cut to 35 minutes from now*
*cut to 35 minutes from now*
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Let's spoilers begin.
brandonh83
Banned
This is more like it...the 'Star Wars' movie J.J. Abrams SHOULD have made.
-Roger Moore, Movie Nation
Yeah, this time next year:
This is more like it... the 'Star Wars' movie Gareth Edwards SHOULD have made.
Rogue One will be good for a month or two, and then suck like The Force Awakens does now. We've officially hit Zelda cycle territory with this bullshit.
-Roger Moore, Movie Nation
Yeah, this time next year:
This is more like it... the 'Star Wars' movie Gareth Edwards SHOULD have made.
Rogue One will be good for a month or two, and then suck like The Force Awakens does now. We've officially hit Zelda cycle territory with this bullshit.
Ha, ha, yeah, well, everything from beginning to middle to end has been spoiled on reddit. Lets just say if this movie gets mostly bad reviews, I would be extremely shocked.
EDIT: It got good reviews, so there's that.
BronsonLee
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Nah b if I like it I like it
I'm watching the damn thing Thursday at 7 PM for a birthday
Yeah this may happen with me as well, hell I might like it more than ROTJ even.
Tarkin?
Couple of reviews mentioning CG Tarkin:
From THR:
From Indiewire:
Curious if Indiewire is saying it's "the worst" because of quality of the effects or because of the creepiness of the uncanny valley. THR review notes it as a positive, while still acknowledging the creepiness factor.
From THR:
From Indiewire:
Curious if Indiewire is saying it's "the worst" because of quality of the effects or because of the creepiness of the uncanny valley. THR review notes it as a positive, while still acknowledging the creepiness factor.
If I had to guess, Ehrlich is probably upset at the ethics of it.
thecouncil
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1. Backwards Zelda cycle. The myth about that one is that people usually start with hating a Zelda game.
2. The excitement gets to people. I'm sure people loved Phantom Menace when it came out too.
3. "TFA is not as bad as TPM."
Shut up and buy the toys.
brandonh83
Banned
Haha yeah, backwards cycle indeed.
And nah, I can recall most of my friends I saw TPM with leaving the theater in disgust. The reviews were DECENT but not all that great. I remember Ebert liking it quite well due to the imagination.
I'm guessing there was a limited number of them and they all get killed on Scarif, plus they are Krennic's personal guards as well and they go down with him.
Vader's trimming the fat on the Empire's budget. That Death Star ain't cheap.
That makes sense.
That makes sense actually haha
weepingangelz
Banned
I'm super excited to see ANH-era costumes and sets on full display.
I'm just going to copy/paste the plot summary here that NoodleNinja13 put up on Reddit since it seems correct. I like it!
Only thing that concerns me is that I hope it's more clear in the film itself whether
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The movie starts with the classic "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away" then gets straight into the action. We see an Imperial Shuttle land on this rocky planet and Jyn as a child runs home, her father gets her to run off as he goes to confront Krennic who wants him to rejoin and help build the Death Star. His wife pops in and tries to shoot Krennic but is shot down. Her dad is taken and she runs off to hide where Saw then gets her. Film then cuts to the title then back to the film. Jyn is now in a prison and we see Andor in a city where he's talking to this really nervous guy. He tells him how there's an Imperial defector (Rook) who speaks of a planet killing machine. A stormtrooper sees them talking then Andor quickly kills him and the informant guy. We then see Jyn being transported and suddenly rescued by rebels and K2SO. She is taken to Yavin IV where they tell her they know who her father is and want her to come with Andor to meet Saw who has Rook imprisoned. They travel to Jedha where they wander around and meet Baze and Chirrut but they don't join yet. At the same time Saw's men attack a hovertank and they get caught up in the battle. Andor shoots one of Saw's men and runs. They eventually get cornered but are saved by Baze and Chirrut and soon after are captured by Saw's men. The scene is now in Saw's base where Jyn is shown a message from her dad, who ordered Rook to deliver, who explains he willingly went back to the Empire so he can put a fatal flaw in the Death Star. During this time Krennic tests the Death Star (not at full strength) to blow up Jedha. This causes panic and Baze, Chirrut, Rook and Andor escape with Jyn while Saw remains to die. Jyn tells Andor of the message and Andor says he knows where Jyn's dad is. They arrive at this rocky rainy planet and crash land. Andor and Room go out to scout, Baze and Chirrut do their own thing and Jyn goes off on her own. Andor takes a sniper out and peers at this landing pad where we see Krennic and Jyn's dad, Galen talking. This whole time Andor has a clear shot but keeps resisting. Krennic asks the engineers to be all brought out because he knows someone is helping the rebels out and asks someone to step forward. Galen eventually steps forward to prevent everyone from dying. A Rebel fleet is sent to attack but Andor notices Jyn who managed to crawl to the landing area and tries to tell the Rebels back at the base to call it all off. It's too late since they're enroute and they start bombing the base. Jyn's father is killed and Krennic escapes. They all regroup and head back to Yavin IV. Back at the base, council leaders are arguing because some are ready for a war while others aren't. Jyn gives a speech but is shot down. As she leaves Andor says he has men who are down to volunteer and fight. They all leave Yavin on an Imperial Shuttle. The plans are on Scariff in a tall citadel. The entire planet is encased in a shield. They land and Jyn, Andor and K2SO get disguises to run in an take the plans while Baze and Chirrut lead rebel forces. Rook stays behind in the ship. The rebels plant various bombs and detonate them while Jyn and the gang make there way to where all the files are kept. K2SO dies protecting Jyn and Andor who manage to grab the files. Their plan is now to head to the top to broadcast the files. Back on Yavin, they intercept messages from Scariff talkingn about revel forces attacking. A fleet is then mobilized to help them. Andor is shot by Krennic but Jyn escapes to the top and begins to try and transfer files over. Rook then tasks them with flipping a master switch to aid in transferring files. Chirrut dies as he does this and Baze goes out in a blaze of glory killing the Death Troopers attacking them. Rook is also blown up. Up in space, a Star Destroyer's engines die and they send out a Hammerhead ship to ram it, destroying one more SD and the shield encasing the planet. Krennic catches up to Jyn and starts a speech but is shot by Andor. They send the files successfully but up in space Tarkin orders the planet to be blown up. The Death Star fires and we see Jyn and Andor on the beach embracing as a shockwave takes them out. With the files on the ship, we see rebel soldiers with a floppy disk thingo and they're running off to hand it over. The door closes and the lights go out as Vader goes on a killing spree. The rebel manages to hand it over and we see the Tantive IV break free and go into hyperspace. The final scene is Princess Leia getting the files and we cut to the credits. There are cameos from 3PO, R2 and the two dudes from the Cantina. Dr. Something and Ponda Ass Face. There is also a mention from Bail of a jedi friend who is in exile.
Only thing that concerns me is that I hope it's more clear in the film itself whether
Scariff is completely destroyed or not
Bobby Roberts
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God bless 'em for trying, and it's very obvious they put in years of work - but Tarkin and Leia don't land. Their mouths do not operate correctly. The uncanny valley claims them almost immediately. It's 30x better than Bridges in TRON: Legacy, and ILM didn't have the luxury of working with the actor (like Ant-Man and Civil War, which are much better examples of the effect.), but that doesn't mean the effect isn't mostly distracting. Because it is. You get used to it as the film goes on, but it never registers as Tarkin. It's an effect that looks like Tarkin.
it's probably why Mendelssohn's character diminishes as the film continues - he has to act across from that thing more than a couple times, and I just couldn't buy it.
edit: my impression was that the Death Star blasts in this movie only wiped out whole cities in one shot, not the entire planets. Essentially they are massive nuclear blasts that cause everything in like a 15-20 mile radius to explode skyward.
it's probably why Mendelssohn's character diminishes as the film continues - he has to act across from that thing more than a couple times, and I just couldn't buy it.
edit: my impression was that the Death Star blasts in this movie only wiped out whole cities in one shot, not the entire planets. Essentially they are massive nuclear blasts that cause everything in like a 15-20 mile radius to explode skyward.
Haloid1177
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This Tarkin thing is way more dividing than I expected. Some say it's the best CG effect ever, others say it actually hurts the film. Really interested to see how it comes out.
Cross-Section
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That's worrying, as I thought young-RDJ in Civil War was off-putting at the best of times.
Wouldn't it have been better to use that actor from the end of ROTS?
Interesting how divisive it seems. The uncanny valley is one of my biggest pet peeves with CG so I'm kinda worried.
(Also welcome back Bobby, even if just for a little bit!)
Tarkin seems to be a more prominent figure than I assumed. I assumed he'd be in the movie for just a few minutes.
BossDarkseid
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I'm kinda the opposite. Didn't mind Young RDJ (tbh until I read about the CGI afterwards I'd assumed they'd just done some wizardry with makeup etc) but any Iron Man scene with the helmet retracted /down was so ugly...
Cross-Section
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You know what, I'm totally with you on this.
It's looked bad in nearly every single case that they've tried that effect, but on the other hand, that effect is so omnipresent in the Marvel movies that it's become an ignorable constant, just like Tarkin eventually becomes in Bobby's impressions.
Tarkin worked for Episode 3 because they never featured him front and center. The Makeup etc. on Tarkin was horrible. Cushing had such a distinct facial structure that to mimic it requires a ton of prosthetic work etc. to the point you are putting so much latex etc. on the face that it bulges. He honestly looked Zombie like in close up shots taken of the work
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