Rough launch aside, would you say the PlayStation 3 eventually became the best console of the 7th gen?

I switched to PS3 permanently in 2009 around the time Infamous came out. That was when I got rid of my 360. The system started firing on all cylinders and Xbox would soon start going downhill in my opinion. Definitely the best system of that generation. Tons of great exclusives, with a ton of variety.

I can't keep stressing it's amazing to see how modern day Sony has fallen so much. They were on a roll with the 3 and 4.
 
Not for me, much preferred the 360 overall but I like how Sony got it's act together after a troublesome launch and the PSN problems.

And to their credit they still managed to put out some great games and underrated ones like Warhawk.
 
It is, PS3 is the best console of that generation, it started out average but two years later when MGS4, Killzone 2, GOW3 and especially Uncharted 2 started coming out it was an incredible console, Xbox 360 was going to be the best but it sank in 2009 when they started with the Kinect garbage.
 
I had a ton of fun with the X360. But I enjoyed the PS3 even more.

It also doesn't help that I had the RROD and the E73. The games on the X360 were good, but the hardware was trash.
 
Overall, library of games, without a question. The issue is a lot of those games were originally 360 exclusives that came to PS3 later - BioShock, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, etc.

But the second half PS3 first-party games definitely put it ahead of 360 - Uncharted 1, 2 and 3, The Last of Us, inFamous 1 and 2, several Ratchet and Clank games, Little Big Planet, etc
 
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Nah, 360 was better, much better first party exclusive library at the time. I did enjoy the Uncharted games, MAG, Demon's Souls, God of War 3, Tokyo Jungle and MGS4 though.
 
It's going to come down to whether you're an Xbox Live shooter bro or single player dungeon guy.

I wasn't madly in love with either system, but had both. I still use the 360 controller to this day, and between the two spent the most time playing Castle Crashers local multiplayer, so there's that. Many many many years later, TLOU was legitimately great and forced me to use that terrible Dual Shock.

I was about to say 360 wins but wait, PS3 still has Mushroom Wars. I'm sorry I'm just too confused right now.
 
It was always the best console of that generation. Best hardware in the 60gb model. Full ps2 bc which was still getting exclusives like ff12 and persona. Free online. And for all the people screaming "no games!", warhawk, killzone 2, and demon's souls were better than anything on the wii and 360 in the early years.
 
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Two things must happened for a product in the market to really turn around...

- Good products at their side
- Bad decisions by the rivals

Strangely, that is exactly what happened>

- PS3 started to really show its strength
- Wii losing its steam after the controller lost its appeal and its new factor (seriously, nothing ever came close to Wii Sports)
- Xbox 360 with the bizarre focus on Kinect
 
Last of Us
Uncharted
Uncharted 2
Uncharted 3
God of War 3
God of War Ascention
Killzone 2
Killzone 3
Little Big Planet
Little Big Planet 2
Resistance
Resistance 2
Resistance 3
Infamous
Infamous 2
Amazing how companies used to be able to release more than one AAA title in a single console generation.

Imagine a company like Naughty Dog releasing 3 original AAA titles like that today.

And don't give me the "it's more difficult to develop today" because the PS3's Cell processor was notoriously difficult to develop for. Developers have just grown fat and lazy.
 
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That generation was like 2 generations, it was weird. First one was 2005-2009, Xbox was clearly better. Then was 2009-2013, PS3 was better.
 
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It was literally one of the worst console launches for a fan to ending up as one of the best by the release of the PS4. But first 2 years Xbox360 BY FAR floored me with its output. I didnt buy a PS3 till MGS 4 came out and even then I felt like it barely had any worthy games. Seeing Bioshock/Mass Effect/ Gears of War for the first time, I havent experienced such jump in graphics till today.
 
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Yes.

Fuck no lol, the Xbox 360 was king.

PS4 era tho…

360 started wilting in 2010; IMO how a console finishes a gen is just as important if not more important than how it started, and only PS3 finished strongly that generation out of the three.

That's a big reason PS4 had as much goodwill leading into its launch that it did. Conversely, the only reason XBO still had a decent start was because the decline only started for the brand in 2010/2011, and was subtle at first, growing larger over the years. Plus 360 had a strong enough run from 2005 - 2009 to still keep the brand healthy for a while.

2017 is when the brand really started spiraling into its major decline phase, I feel.
 
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Nah, it's the gen Sony lost me. Stopped caring for their games after the PS1 and 2. I still played bits of the big games like GOW3 but I just grew out of them.

X360, Wii, PS3.
 
I'm always going to go to bat for the Wii, but that's partly because I really don't have much of a taste for shooters or realistic action-adventure type games (Resident Evil aside), which the PS3 has in spades.

While sometimes wonky, the Wii brought a lot of fun new ideas to the table and it really feels like a follow-up to stuff like the Dreamcast with its focus on distinctively arcadey experiences (Sin and Punishment, light gun games like RE Umbrella/House of the Dead remake/Ghost Squad etc), the best version of RE4 to this day, quirky but high-quality games like Trauma Team, Boom Box, Silent Hill Shattered Memories, Wii Sports/Resort, Little King's Story, Excitebots, and bolstered by Nintendo's good 1st/2nd-party output such as Mario Galaxy 1&2, the Zelda games, Xenoblade, Smash Bros, Punch-Out, Fortune Street, Kirby's Epic Yarn, DKC Returns, Metroid Prime 3/Trilogy, and Rhythm Heaven Fever.

Plus with all the focus on blue ocean strategy, the Wii really was one of the last great on-the-couch (or off-the-couch in this case) multiplayer systems. Some people looking for big "epic" adventures didn't really get much of that on the system but for the rest of us it was a total crowd-pleaser. I actually loved being able to play games with my parents for once.
 
Amazing how companies used to be able to release more than one AAA title in a single console generation.

Imagine a company like Naughty Dog releasing 3 original AAA titles like that today.

And don't give me the "it's more difficult to develop today" because the PS3's Cell processor was notoriously difficult to develop for. Developers have just grown fat and lazy.

People didn't complain if the pores on the skin of a character's face didn't accurately reflect ray traced light cascading through a bottle of beer with 4K bubbles and water physics back then either.

Seriously, those beer bottles is why GTA6 is taking so long.
 
Yes. I started the gen on Xbox360 but in 2010 switched over to Ps3 and never looked back.
Good exclusives, great support until the end, free multiplayer, etc.
My biggest complain with the Ps3 was the controller. The Dualshock 3 kinda sucked, and I had a ton of them die on me (more than every other Playstation generation combined)


"Hey guys I didn't play any games online so that's why this is a thread."

I played a lot of online games on Ps3 and never had any major problems.
Lots of COD, Battlefield, Last of US, Uncharted, Killzone, etc on top of lots of co-op stuff like Portal 2, Borderlands 1 and 2, RE5 and 6 , etc.

Sure the overall experience wasn't as robust as on Xbox360, but it as also free.
I'd give up all the added multiplayer functionality on Ps5 to not have to pay $80 a year just to be able to play online.
 
Great turnaround and ended up being an awesome console but I think the 360 just nailed online and everything so well that I'd have to go with that just for the memories of online with my buddies. Left 4 dead. Halo 3 etc. nothing could touch those experiences for me personally.

Last of us and uncharted 2. Infamous. Plus many more were absolutely brilliant though.
This. The PS3 was an incredible machine and way more interesting hardware but my core memories and experiences from that gen belong squarely to the 360.
 
Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 were great games, but overall I liked the 360 games like Dead Rising, Condemned, Alan Wake, Fable 2, Gears of War 2 and 3, or Forza Horizon more - and I preferred the controller as well.
 
The PS3 was great, but the 360 was king that generation.
 
I was a big fan of the PS3. IMO it was greatly underutilized by third parties, but had a lot of great exclusives as well . I still have my PS3 and pull it out every now and then for some RR7.
 
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In the end, yes.

It sold the most between the two HD ones.

It's success was more worldwide and thus is better remembered, the 360 was more Anglo centric, or UK+America.

It sold more games, 1100M against some 700M the 360.

Many of the 360 exclusives made it to the PS3 later, as Oblivion, Mass Effect 1 and 2, Tales of Vesperia, Eternal Sonata, but most Japan based PS3/PSP games remained exclusive.

First party output was more consistent in Sony side, the whole second half of the fen the 360 had only iterations of Halo, Gears and Forzá while SCE (as SIE was named then) kept pushing many games until the last year of the Gen.

As for the move based gimmicks, Kinect was a turd only mildly apt for dancing games, while the Move units allowed for games with better input, some games as Sorcery, the Wonder book ones, or specially the two Sports Champions games were genuinely good.

The game library in the end was more diverse and rich. Maybe not that much, but it was.
 
No. Gen 7 gave us such different consoles and libraries, each with their unique strengths, that I think none can be chosen as the absolute best of the bunch.
 
The 360 was by far the best console of that gen and it won for a reason. It had far better exclusives and the multiplatform games ran better on 360. The controller didnt feel cheap like the ps3 controller, way better online and dashboard interface.
 
Easily better than the Nintendo and XBOX of that era and it's also the third best PS gen after the PS2 and PS1 gen.

Dragon's Crown
Ratchet and Clank Tools of Destruction
Ratchet and Clank: A Crack In Time
Ratchet and Clank: Into the Nexus
Infamous
Infamous 2
Resistance
Resistance 2
Resistance 3
Metal Gear Solid 4
The Last of Us
 
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For me personally:
  • I had my 360 RROD one time in 2009. I paid the $150 to get it repaired and it never broke again, although I didn't use it as much between the repair and when I sold it in 2012. I had one of the first HDMI units from fall 2006.
  • I had a PS3 slim (the first model) and it did the YLOD. I remember turning it on, hearing a very loud pop, and then it was dead. It turned out the motherboard was so warped it actually cracked. I had to full-on replace it with the second (shitty) slim model. That worked fine until I sold it in 2012.
  • I also loved the Xbox controller and hated the original Dual Shock design. It gave my big dumb American hands cramps. I bought every PlayStation since the launch of the PS1, but I was biased against the brand for being uncomfortable to play.
  • I would say I had overall more fun with the games that were exclusive to the 360 during the first few years (Bioshock, Mass Effect, Gears, Halo, Forza, etc.) than I did with most of the games on the PS3 in the later years. So in that sense, the 360 was a better machine for me.
  • But Demon's Souls took over my life in 2009 and I worked to get the Platinum trophy on all three regional versions of the game. Also, Uncharted 2, LBP, TLOU, etc. were amazing.
Overall, I would call it a tie. In terms of competition, I think that was by far the most balanced generation. MS and Sony went head to head and fought hard, while Nintendo was off doing something completely different that was highly successful for them. It was really a players market.
 
I returned my 360 in a matter of days and I got a 2nd PS3 when my first got YLOD.

PS3 had a brilliant library and I had a great time with its exclusives as well as its multi platform titles. Free online was of course how it should be.
 
Great turnaround and ended up being an awesome console but I think the 360 just nailed online and everything so well that I'd have to go with that just for the memories of online with my buddies. Left 4 dead. Halo 3 etc. nothing could touch those experiences for me personally.

Last of us and uncharted 2. Infamous. Plus many more were absolutely brilliant though.
Never even played online on 360 but I still thought it was the better console.
 
People didn't complain if the pores on the skin of a character's face didn't accurately reflect ray traced light cascading through a bottle of beer with 4K bubbles and water physics back then either.

Seriously, those beer bottles is why GTA6 is taking so long.
The 7th generation really was the last generation that gave us a significant leap in technology over the previous gen. Back when having more power felt exciting.

Nowadays, it just feels so superficial.
 
Only the biggest Sony fanboys would make that statement.
The PS3 was complete trash.
For starters, one of the worst controllers of all time. The triggers and battery life are a joke.

Outside of MGS4, Demons Souls, Valkyrie Chronicles, and maybe Ketsui (but even that port was suspect) - you had nothing.
Shit ports of most 3rd party games in comparison. Im not talking a resolution bump here and there - literally shit ports.
A trash tier online service and crap like installing digital games twice before you could play them.
PS1 and 2 classics were plagued with input lag and blurry emulation.

History revision at its finest.
 
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