Rumor: Uncharted 5 in the works

You really buy that? That identity politics is about "more kindness and understanding"? That is so clueless. It is about power and control. The "kindness and understanding" is a facade. Behind the mask is narcissistic attempts to control and belittle others who don't conform to the narrative.

You are an example yourself. Here is some of the "kindness and understanding" that the woke are famous for:



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Strawmanning, plus more attempts to shame people into being quiet. Gee, you are so kind and understanding.



More patronizing strawmen.
You know there are positions apart from extremes.
The extreme left mentality that you see in certain other places has lost perspective and basically loses a lot of the kindness and positivity.

Yes, my post wasn't very kind and was removed, it was a reply to this unhinged post, it's sometimes hard to always be patent with endless misogny and bigotry, I should do better though.

You should learn the difference between sarcasm and strawmanning.
 
Ewww, no thanks. Nathan daughter was the most predictable character to lead the Uncharted franshise, but without Nathan personality and dry jokes, the entire game loses alot of its appeal to me. Reason why Lost Legacy wasent that enjoyable to me.

And Sam? How the fuck is this guy still around.

Thers only 3 character in the Uncharted universe that would make good main protagonists. Nathan, Sully and Chloe. Everyone else can fuck off to being a side kick. Idially, Nathan Drake would always be one of the main protagonists, the games loses alot of its charm without him.
 
That vertical slice of Cassie in the PS advert must be what, 4 years old now?

Game should be ready to launch in 2026 unless it's been in production hell.
 
I mean, if you played Uncharted 4, it's no surprise Cassie is the MC in Uncharted 5, if it exists. Also there was that split second cut in the PlayStation first party commercial years ago that showed what was believed to be Cassie in Uncharted 5.

I'm just saying what is said here is not surprising for me.
 
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You know there are positions apart from extremes.
The extreme left mentality that you see in certain other places has lost perspective and basically loses a lot of the kindness and positivity.

Yes, my post wasn't very kind and was removed, it was a reply to this unhinged post, it's sometimes hard to always be patent with endless misogny and bigotry, I should do better though.

You should learn the difference between sarcasm and strawmanning.

I recognize both in your responses, as well as further condescension and deflections of personal responsibility.

Anyhow, I know who I'm dealing with, so I will step away. Good luck with all that.
 
LL was amazing BTW, and I don't fall to the Chloe hate bs.

Even when most of the GAF migrate to resetera, she got praise from many, even myself.

Most of us saw her as a Tomb Raider candidate.
This, and this is how it should continue, it should be Chloe, I actually thought LL was a testbed to see how many wanted Uncharted to continue potentially with Chloe (if they really must have a second character then I wouldnt be averse to them then using Nathan Drakes daughter also)
 
I recognize both in your responses, as well as further condescension and deflections of personal responsibility.

Anyhow, I know who I'm dealing with, so I will step away. Good luck with all that.
Good Bye GIF
 
Can already see the title: Uncharted 5: the adventures of cassie drake & her lesbian companion

Sam acts as the new Sully

Nate and Elena are off screen retired, gonna show up for a couple of cameos

Sully is dead

Chloe and Nadine are a power couple dominating the asian and african artefact markets
 
Remember when UC4 was about Sam revenge ?



Also Amy leaving ND was the worse think that happened to the company.

Yeah I really wanted Amy to continue with this franchise and have this plot. UC4 kinda sucked. Also the voice actor sounded very cool, would have been better, since troy is everywhere.
 
I mean its pretty clear that nates daughter would take over considering uncharted 4 ending.

Nates boy was originaly meant to be a boy, but druckmann changed that after forcing out Amy Hennig, he even fired a focus tester that complained about nadine and that they changed nates boy to a daughter lol.

This was almost 10 years ago, you guys cannot even begin to grasp with the passage of time and how culture has changed how much of a trash ass garbage sequel this will be.

Interview from 2016 taken from Polygon

One character whom Naughty Dog changed from a boy to a girl was Nate's child, who appears during the game's epilogue. The original plan was for Nate to have a son; this character instead became his daughter.

"You have some sexist focus testers who were really upset by Nadine beating up Nate, and really upset at the end when it was Nate's daughter. To the point where we had to ask one guy to leave. In his core, it just affected him. He was cursing, 'Not you, too, Naughty Dog! Goddammit. I guess I'm done with Uncharted, if you guys ever make another one, with his daughter. This fucking bullshit.'"
 
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I despair at this place sometimes.

Even if true (and that's a big 'if'), then I see no problem with Uncharted 5 having Cassie as one of the leads. It actually makes sense, but doesn't necessarily make it true.

It could be a simple tale of Nate and Elena go missing and Cassie and Sam go on the hunt.

I imagine that Nate would still have a part to play in the game and that we'd get to play the story from both sides.

That's my two pennies worth.
 
Can already see the title: Uncharted 5: the adventures of cassie drake & her lesbian companion

Sam acts as the new Sully

Nate and Elena are off screen retired, gonna show up for a couple of cameos

Sully is dead

Chloe and Nadine are a power couple dominating the asian and african artefact markets
I hope she is lesbian. I don't want to play as someone dating a man.
 
I really don't get it.
Some people are frothing at the mouth with rage at the idea of playing Nate's daughter. Why?
Because she's a female? When LL had 2 female leads and many agree it to be one of the highlights of the series?
Can anyone (without mentioning woke or lesbians or any other crap) explain why a game with her continuing her dad's legacy automatically be bad?
She's a kid in UC4, if this rumour is true, It'll be set later.
 
The problem is that you can't have her daughter following in his footsteps, considering that Nathan is an orphan bastard who was "tamed" by his wife. You can't put a normal girl born in a normal home killing hundreds of people and treasure hunting. It doesnt make any sense, it´s beyond retarded.

That's why in Uncharted Chloe and Nadine are shady characters at best. In TLOU, they are survivors in a harsh world, so that justifies their actions. Cassie has zero reasons to become like her father, moreover when her parents would never have it.

That's precisely the problem with the modern age Lara Croft, her character conflicts her actions and breaks the suspension of disbelief. With Cassey, it would be much worse.

Technically speaking, OG Lara Croft had a super-rich upbringing and was taken care of by her parents through her teenage and even early adult years IIRC, but she took up hunting relics for the thrill & adventure of it. Eventually her parents cut off her access to their money, so then it became a profession. What I'm getting at is: OG Lara Croft didn't have a harsh life with a rough upbringing. Quite the opposite in fact. Yet, that character still worked wonderfully.

There's no reason that can't be repeated with Cassie. Give her a time jump, have her take up adventuring out of being aspirational and inspired by her father's adventures. She drops out of college and takes up an adventure beyond her skillset, and Nathan's got bad leg and/or some other job responsibilities so he doesn't hear about Cassie's adventure 'till a bit later. Maybe Cassie and Nathan have a falling out because of her wanting to follow in his footsteps but he (wisely) wishes for her not to, yet she won't listen.

So, she sets off, Nathan & Sam find out, and Sam decides he's gonna go after her just to make sure she's safe. Nathan's cold towards it, but still wants her to be well. Cassie ends up in a dangerous situation, so now she's gotta level up to survive and get through it safely, she has to learn a lot of skills to do so. Sam's on her trail and tries reaching Cassie, but has to deal with pursuers of his own. Nathan finds out about Cassie's situation and goes after her and Sam. From that point the player plays segments switching between the three characters, who have some unique skills among them and learn new skills/upgrade current skills throughout the game.

At some point Nathan catches up with Sam, and together they catch up with Cassie, saving her from certain death. They're on their way back home but something happens in the story separating Cassie from the others, and she has to use her skills up to that point to save them from some entrapment (I dunno, a pyramid enclosing walls on them or something and the solution is something like a puzzle Cassie has to solve), which proves to Nathan that maybe he can worry less about his daughter. Maybe even they decide to go on a little adventure together or something to that effect.

Not the best example, but there are definitely ways it could work.

I think Druckmann created the characters.


Can't think of a single Sony games like this. Examples?

He has none, because he hasn't played them. Certainly hasn't played UC4.

I mean what a jump in culture war logic to make to attribute that crap to Uncharted simply because one of the pictures is a girl. We're at a point where certain people assume any game with any major character who's a non-white straight male to be woke, and it takes a mountain of evidence to get them to ignore going forward. Not even to acknowledge they're wrong; simply to stop with that game and try finding another game to claim as woke.

Like, why the hell are you mentioning Veilguard or Saint's Row as if Uncharted's responsible for those trainwrecks, or somehow Uncharted 5 is retroactively responsible for games that couldn't have even used it as influence since they would have released years earlier? Blaming games yet to come out for the mistakes & sins of games that came before them, even if they're from totally different studios and franchises. It's utter stupidity.

Could Uncharted 4 turn out to be a woke mess? Yes, that is possible. Is it currently a woke mess? No one knows, since we don't know the story, we don't know the setup or anything to that effect. Some people need to wait for the details that matter to come out, before throwing around labels. Otherwise you just look like a lazy bigot.

And if you're a corporate shill on top of that? Yeesh...
 
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There's a lot of people in this thread that probably pay good money to take their shirts off and get splashed with cold water around 2 dozen men. Thats all I'm saying.


does masculinity triggers you ?

as an almost 40yo dude, i cant say to you that most men between 20 - 40 ll prefer to play over masculine male character over fragile teenager girl, thats for sure, even more knowing the level of writing that a game like this would have nowadays and thats why games like WH4K2 are successful and game like South of Midnight are flops.
 
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What they really just should've done is end it at 4. That's it. I think 4 is still great, though not my fav.

Do something else for fuck's sake. How about a Naughty Dog FPS? What about a Naughty take on an immersive sim? Attempt to take the mantle for a bit from the Arkane/Looking Glass OGs.
 
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Kids don't kill hundreds of people in their pursuit for the treasure. In the Uncharted games it's made crystal clear that Nathan is doing something WRONG. It is justified with a troubled childhood, and he was always a criminal.

Cassey should lose BOTH her parents and be adopted by Sam or another bastard to fill in that role. It's not about becoming a girl scout but a straight up criminal.

Unless she becomes another "seeker of truth", like the new Lara, which we can all agree it's some serious bullshit.
It's not that hard to come up with a justification, if the game is combat focused. She will have some dark shit happen to her the moment she leaves her parents' protective bubble. May be she starts off as a girl scout and sees some shit along the way. She gets estranged from her parents, finds Sam as a mentor who, as always, gets into enough trouble to fuck her up as well. Or like you said, I wouldn't put it past ND to kill off both Nathan and Elena.

Or it's not a serious story and just a fun romp where you don't need to worry so much about motivations. Unlikely, given ND's direction, but I don't see an issue with that.

Or a game that is less combat focused and more stealth/avoid/escape with exploration and puzzles.

Justifying killing in a videogame is the least of their challenges. Everyone's so used to it that most won't even care one way or another. I think the bigger challenge is going to be making her a convincing female lead and how the killing occurs. A subset won't be happy about a female lead no matter what story justification they come up with. Anything non-conforming is an automatic fail. She would have to be straight. She would have to be traditionally attractive. She can be athletic, but not powerful. She can't knock a man down with a single punch etc.. She will need to be surrounded by men to guide her. All of this will keep coming up over and over, couched in the name of "physics", "biology" and "believability". People are going to be obsessed over that. Not if she has the motivation to kill or not. If that commentary does surface, that would also be gendered. "Why would a woman want to go out and kill at all? They are nurturers and healers. May be they will kill with poison if pushed to the edge, but violent killing with lethal weapons is a man's mindset. This is woke feminist propaganda!!!"

Unfortunately that's where we are. The pendulum will swing back in force until the industry recalibrates and everyone calms the fuck down.
 
i found you a safe space


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Brilliant insult dude. #AlphaBrain
 
Lost Legacy was great so the games can be good without Nathan as the character.

Surprised that Sony would have a mega hit franchise and just stop making games in the series. Glad it's coming back.
Yep. Lost Legacy was way better than Uncharted 4. I was hesitating to go for it after forcing myself to finish Uncharted 4 as I wanted to at least have the end of the story. But I loved it.
I feel Cassey can be perfectly fine and to be honest, at the end of Uncharted 4, I was already thinking she is probably the main character of the next Uncharted. It was really looking up like they were preparing her for the next game. However Sam, I don't think I want to see more of him.
 
Fuck yeah, it's about time we got a Tomb Raider-style game with a strong female protagonist.

Way to go, Neil. I bet your wife and her boyfriend are proud of you shattering this glass ceiling.
 
Naughty Dog do excel lately at making the most unlikeable protagonists.

This is a terrible idea. Sam was just a massive cunt anyway, and who wants femDrake who will need to call mummy and daddy when in trouble?

Should have just stuck with Chloe.
 
does masculinity triggers you ?

as an almost 40yo dude, i cant say to you that most men between 20 - 40 ll prefer to play over masculine male character over fragile teenager girl, thats for sure, even more knowing the level of writing that a game like this would have nowadays and thats why games like WH4K2 are successful and game like South of Midnight are flops.
As an over 40 dude, I'll often choose to play as a female because I've been playing straight white dudes in games for DECADES, I'm currently playing South of Midnight and quite simply, it's a beautiful game with an interesting setup but very mediocre gameplay.
It was a Gamepass game, who said it flopped?
 
As an over 40 dude, I'll often choose to play as a female because I've been playing straight white dudes in games for DECADES, I'm currently playing South of Midnight and quite simply, it's a beautiful game with an interesting setup but very mediocre gameplay.
It was a Gamepass game, who said it flopped?
it didn't flopped, it was a



success with 1mil players on gamepass and 1.6k CCU on steam, it may be Goty 2025, my bad.
 
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You know there are positions apart from extremes.
The extreme left mentality that you see in certain other places has lost perspective and basically loses a lot of the kindness and positivity.

Yes, my post wasn't very kind and was removed, it was a reply to this unhinged post, it's sometimes hard to always be patent with endless misogny and bigotry, I should do better though.

You should learn the difference between sarcasm and strawmanning.

lmaoooo
 
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