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Rumor: Wii 2 at E3; 6" Touch Controller [Up: Cafe Header On Nintendo Site, More]
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Krowley said:
Motion controls can already replicate a lot of those experiences in a more engaging way. Sure, it could offer some new experiences, but touch screens at this point seem redundant.
As to what I'd like to see, I have no idea...but what's being pitched here isn't doing it for me. Maybe seeing it demonstrated might change that.
cartman414
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Three cores is an odd number, both figuratively and literally. I mean, heck, isn't NGP quad core?
The Technomancer
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3.)There were some very minor leaks, that "video games journalism" has spun completely out of control.AceBandage said:
AceBandage
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cartman414 said:
More Cores isn't always better.
Bigger L caches make a bigger difference.
The_Technomancer said:
Crazy talk. Game journalists are completely rational and clear headed individuals.
LovingSteam said:
I'm still perfectly fine with GC and Xbox, but I've never been as sensitive as some people to this kind of stuff.
Let's just say that the games from that gen aren't even remotely painful to play for me, and i can still appreciate many of the artistic elements.
I'd rather play metroid prime than anything on 360 or ps3, and the graphics aren't an impediment to that experience.
AceBandage said:
Again I don't see how this would be possible with a 6 INCH screen. God god it's going to make the original Xbox controllers look small in comparison. Add to the fact that you might have to swing that thing around? If the screen has to be that large then they're going to have to cut down on the buttons on the side.
elrechazado
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Wait, so we agree then: you flipped out over someone talking about one rumor, but have no problem with the others. Selective rumor belief and cognitive dissonance.Door2Dawn said:
AceBandage
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cacildo said:
I dub thee: The Bongo Falcon
Eggplant Wizard
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antonz said:
What is happening on April 26 in Japan? Has something been announced for that date?
mellowbob said:
I'm not going to defend the actual graphical output of the system because 1. we don't know how powerful it will be, and 2. judging from the rumors it will at least be as good as the 360 and ps3's output.
But do you really think having the monitor on the controller be hd or sub-hd is key? As others have pointed out most small "hd" screens available now aren't truly hd and they look fine to me.
The question of what's the point? Is exactly why its there, Nintendo will tell us what the point/points are then we can judge but right now we don't know yet.
AceBandage
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Eggplant Wizard said:
Nintendo's Investor Conference
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
Well, since you asked.Boney said:
- I'm skeptical the cpu/gpu specs are accurate. Mainly because Nintendo is so tight lipped about keeping this type of info under wraps. Look at Wii and the 3DS for example.
- The tablet like controller is certainly surprising. Sounds odd. Is this even a console anymore? One thing I think is a BIG CLUE is this detail... "The controller ... can allegedly be used as a Wii sensor bar." Hmmmm.... why would that be necessary? Here's how... what if you could play in a "head-to-head" style where instead of facing the TV set you face your 2 player opponent in the room and use his or her's sensor bar to aim your Wiimote at. Interesting possibilities, but I'd think using a headset/visor in this manner makes more sense.
- Six inches of screen plus a traditional controller sounds way too big...BUT, what if its designed so that the screen is underneath much of the controls? Imagine an acrylic surface for the buttons that allows you to look though to the screen. I dunno. Perhaps you can open and close the controller to cover/reveal the screen. Either with the screen "sheathed" inside or with a clam-shell design (but this makes it seem just like a single screened DS or GBA SP!).
- I really want to know if this frankencontroller has an outward facing camera? Or two?! That would open up AR possibilities.. with table-top like game play when multiple people are playing. What's really cool is that you could use the sensor bar of your opponent to turn them into a virtual character.
- I'm also wondering if the Wiimote and Nunchuck (has this been confirmed?) don't attach to the screeny-thing to turn it into a controller.
- If it is indeed modestly upgraded in visuals and horsepower... the cost of the screens will be Nintendo's justification.
- If the frankencontroller is $59 or more, I don't know how people will react to the idea of shelling out that kind of money just to play two player games. Seems very un-Nintendo. $49 tops.
ClovingWestbrook
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I love WW on the GC still but as I said that was cell shaded. RE4 onthe GC does look better technically than any Wii game. But outside of them, ehh. WW was the only 3D Zelda I have enjoyed. Its unfortunate that there are hardly any 2D games released now. Give me a 2D Zelda LTTP remake on Wii 2 in 1080p znd I will never complain again.Krowley said:
ThoseDeafMutes
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Branduil said:
TwinIonEngines said:
Just send the annoying bugger to the Mario Galaxy OT if he want to fight that game.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=395482
robor
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I really want Nintendo to just go balls out and call this thing the N6........with a hypnotic light on the front when ever you power it up......and the boot up jingle would sound like this.
brochiller
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Anybody else think Project Cafe may refer to a focus on the social aspects of gaming? I mean people often go to cafes to go and meet up with their friends and such, maybe that's what they're getting at with the codename. Perhaps a hint at better online functionality.
Am I the only one who doesn't really care about the hardware? Aslong as Nintendo show some decent software I'm interested. Don't think I'm the only one tired with this incredibly slow drip feeding of old franchise rehashes, lately it seems like maximising profit is their only concern.
IchigoSharingan
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Not too worried about the RAM, since the 4xxx Radeon will probably have plenty of RAM with it.
Still......going from 90nm to 55nm is a nice big step, and any Nintendo gamer will definitely feel the jump. The 870 would be great and so the PowerPC (yuck, Nintendo, why did you go with this?) would barely avoid bottle-necking the GPU.
Get me some Mario Galaxy with 8x MS AA on that bitch.
power comparison for speculation
Still......going from 90nm to 55nm is a nice big step, and any Nintendo gamer will definitely feel the jump. The 870 would be great and so the PowerPC (yuck, Nintendo, why did you go with this?) would barely avoid bottle-necking the GPU.
Get me some Mario Galaxy with 8x MS AA on that bitch.
power comparison for speculation
brochiller
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Quasar said:
Nintendo is currently losing in monthly sales, and while they currently have the total sales lead, they can't afford to let the others catch up before they announce a new system, which will surely happen. The time is right now and they have to announce something before they let their fan base slip away even more.
Hellraizah
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Missed you soooooooooooo much.
Rated-Rsuperstar
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Darkarium said:
Same here. They need something new. A new mario, zelda, and mario kart is of no interest to me anymore.
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
cordonbleu
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I love this time in a console generation, I thoroughly enjoy all the conjecture and thought.
My interpretation of the "facts" is that the new system is quite likely to be an all encompassing box, with an aim to please everyone....
The codename "Project Cafe" to me can be considered a take on the concept of something for everyone, many different flavors, as an example, for cordonbleu, here's your wacky motion controlled games, for cordonred here's your traditionally controlled FPS monster core game etc.
I don't think that if there is truth in all parts of the rumours we have heard so far, that it is aesthetically possible for the company to produce 1 (ONE) controller that does it all!
There has been indications from Edge that the new consoles motion controls are superior to that of the Sony Move, this indicate to me that some kind of Wii Plus is in the works.
Alternatively, there have been persistent rumours that a more traditional control with some new additions (Touch Screen) is being bundled with the console, so a GameCube/GameBoy Hybrid is in the works.
The two mentioned control methods will not work together, but if they are both included in the box separately, then the whole 'Cafe' concept definitely starts to make more sense. It also does not split the market, as all systems will have the same components, meaning if a developer wants to make a motion controlled game, they can, if they want to make a traditional core game with no 'waggle' they can. If they want to give the end user the choice of control options they can.
One thing that Nintendo has definitely benefited from during the Wii era is the bundling of peripherals and controllers with games, making incredible profits from what many consider lumps of plastic, I imagine that this will continue into Nintendos next generation from the get go. In fact I guarantee it.
There is much speculation that Nintendo will not brand the new system in the Wii category. I agree wholeheartedly that this is the best approach to the new console, and think that to differentiate the new console to current (casual/mainstream) Wii users, such a move will be very appropriate to get that consumer to upgrade and throw off the "I already have one" mentality that many of these consumers cling to.
I do not however for one second believe that this indicates a death to the Wii brand, more I think Nintendo could use the Wii name to augment the new system. Something akin to the following could be possible.
NINTENDO 6 with Wii Plus
N6 with Wii Plus
ARMAGEDDON with Wii Plus
by doing so, huge gaming brands such as Wii Sports, Fit, Play etc will continue without losing what is arguably the biggest defining aspect of their name, people know what Wii means, they know that in Wii Sports they are moving, Wii IS motion controlling. But by augmenting the name with the Wii brand rather then flat out labeling it that, all consumers should assume that the NINTENDO 6 or whatever elses it is called, is not ONLY motion gaming.
I cant see the system launching this year, I'd anticipate an early to mid 2012 launch, so as to allow the development community, especially the western one, to prepare more thoroughly and with hopefully more thought and polish then usual.
I love speculating on launch periods and games, I think it can be fun to dream about such things, My thoughts on a possible launch lineup would be..
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MARCH 2012 assuming an early 2012 release.
New Core IP (bundled with the new traditional controller) probably from a hired Western Developer
Pikmin 3
Wii Relax (bundled with the ridiculous pulse sensor)
interchangeable with the preferable/or
Wii Sports 2 (bundled with a Wii Plus remote)
APRIL 2012 to JUNE 2012
Third Party Priority
JULY 2012 to SEPTEMBER 2012
Wave Race
MONOLITH RPG
WarioWare
OCTOBER 2012
Wii Fit 2 (Bundled with a Wii Balance Board)
NOVEMBER 2012
New CORE IP (Internally developed by EAD preferably)
DECEMBER 2012
NEW Super Mario World
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So much dream, not much sense, but my point is the very important fact that Nintendo must start developing fresh new worlds and exciting products that are not simply deviations of current IP or brands. If its more of the same, who can genuinely be over the moon excited.
So what it essentially equals is two consoles in one box, a hardcore gaming machine if you like, with extreme casual capabilities. If they could get this concept off the ground then I think it could be incredible.
My interpretation of the "facts" is that the new system is quite likely to be an all encompassing box, with an aim to please everyone....
The codename "Project Cafe" to me can be considered a take on the concept of something for everyone, many different flavors, as an example, for cordonbleu, here's your wacky motion controlled games, for cordonred here's your traditionally controlled FPS monster core game etc.
I don't think that if there is truth in all parts of the rumours we have heard so far, that it is aesthetically possible for the company to produce 1 (ONE) controller that does it all!
There has been indications from Edge that the new consoles motion controls are superior to that of the Sony Move, this indicate to me that some kind of Wii Plus is in the works.
Alternatively, there have been persistent rumours that a more traditional control with some new additions (Touch Screen) is being bundled with the console, so a GameCube/GameBoy Hybrid is in the works.
The two mentioned control methods will not work together, but if they are both included in the box separately, then the whole 'Cafe' concept definitely starts to make more sense. It also does not split the market, as all systems will have the same components, meaning if a developer wants to make a motion controlled game, they can, if they want to make a traditional core game with no 'waggle' they can. If they want to give the end user the choice of control options they can.
One thing that Nintendo has definitely benefited from during the Wii era is the bundling of peripherals and controllers with games, making incredible profits from what many consider lumps of plastic, I imagine that this will continue into Nintendos next generation from the get go. In fact I guarantee it.
There is much speculation that Nintendo will not brand the new system in the Wii category. I agree wholeheartedly that this is the best approach to the new console, and think that to differentiate the new console to current (casual/mainstream) Wii users, such a move will be very appropriate to get that consumer to upgrade and throw off the "I already have one" mentality that many of these consumers cling to.
I do not however for one second believe that this indicates a death to the Wii brand, more I think Nintendo could use the Wii name to augment the new system. Something akin to the following could be possible.
NINTENDO 6 with Wii Plus
N6 with Wii Plus
ARMAGEDDON with Wii Plus
by doing so, huge gaming brands such as Wii Sports, Fit, Play etc will continue without losing what is arguably the biggest defining aspect of their name, people know what Wii means, they know that in Wii Sports they are moving, Wii IS motion controlling. But by augmenting the name with the Wii brand rather then flat out labeling it that, all consumers should assume that the NINTENDO 6 or whatever elses it is called, is not ONLY motion gaming.
I cant see the system launching this year, I'd anticipate an early to mid 2012 launch, so as to allow the development community, especially the western one, to prepare more thoroughly and with hopefully more thought and polish then usual.
I love speculating on launch periods and games, I think it can be fun to dream about such things, My thoughts on a possible launch lineup would be..
---
MARCH 2012 assuming an early 2012 release.
New Core IP (bundled with the new traditional controller) probably from a hired Western Developer
Pikmin 3
Wii Relax (bundled with the ridiculous pulse sensor)
interchangeable with the preferable/or
Wii Sports 2 (bundled with a Wii Plus remote)
APRIL 2012 to JUNE 2012
Third Party Priority
JULY 2012 to SEPTEMBER 2012
Wave Race
MONOLITH RPG
WarioWare
OCTOBER 2012
Wii Fit 2 (Bundled with a Wii Balance Board)
NOVEMBER 2012
New CORE IP (Internally developed by EAD preferably)
DECEMBER 2012
NEW Super Mario World
----
So much dream, not much sense, but my point is the very important fact that Nintendo must start developing fresh new worlds and exciting products that are not simply deviations of current IP or brands. If its more of the same, who can genuinely be over the moon excited.
So what it essentially equals is two consoles in one box, a hardcore gaming machine if you like, with extreme casual capabilities. If they could get this concept off the ground then I think it could be incredible.
Does anybody remember the rumors for the Wii controller that had things like:
- Hot and Cold feedback regions (get blown up, it gets hot)
-Tactile feedback regions (apparently areas of the controller can "push" against your hand)
lol anyway, E3 is going to be fantastic this year, but all these rumors just seem too wild. They're not unrealistic by any means, I'm just having a hard time truly falling for the hype.
- Hot and Cold feedback regions (get blown up, it gets hot)
-Tactile feedback regions (apparently areas of the controller can "push" against your hand)
lol anyway, E3 is going to be fantastic this year, but all these rumors just seem too wild. They're not unrealistic by any means, I'm just having a hard time truly falling for the hype.
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