This console sounds crazy. I'm cool with this. I think Nintendo taking gaming in a weird direction should be good fun. They did it with the Wii, so I have faith that this will be some kind of awesome too. Although I do think it would be so funny if it ended up like the Virtual Boy and they just abandoned it and go back to the Wii like nothing happened.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Rumor: Wii 2 at E3; 6" Touch Controller [Up: Cafe Header On Nintendo Site, More]
- Thread starter Wario64
- Start date
- Status
JoshuaJSlone
Member
GameCube lacked disc capacity and mass success (or for launch purposes, being the followup to such a system).Sammy Samusu said:
i dont think the improved motion control is going to be a big thing. it sounds to me like an incremental upgrade, like the move. and no-one gives a flying fuck about the move
in my experience it's the that sense of newness that seems to attract casuals. the kinect seems to be really popular where i world, fidelity be damned. it's seen as the natural successor to the wii and people talk of it as if it were a console in its own right
in my experience it's the that sense of newness that seems to attract casuals. the kinect seems to be really popular where i world, fidelity be damned. it's seen as the natural successor to the wii and people talk of it as if it were a console in its own right
apana said:
Biometric feedback membrane on the back of the controller.
I think I've posted this link a dozen times so people can grasp just how cool it is, but I'm not sure anybody ever clicks on it and reads. *HINT* It's Gabe Newell talking about rigged up mice and how it completely transforms how people play multi-player in L4D2.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-valve-biometrics-blog-entry
KAL2006 said:
But seeing as Nintendo don't have access to MS or Sony's plans, what are they supposed to do, base their business on what their competitors might be doing in five years time, with no real evidence? *OR* plan appropriate hardware for what they want to make for the next five years, knowing they can support it, and hopefully get more support this time due to it being (possibly) slightly less behind the times.
There really is no sense in Nintendo going all-out for power in an attempt to fend off a potential PS4. It would allow Sony to come in with a cheap console with a freshness that catches the mainstream and OH WAIT that was the PlayStation 1 and the Wii.
abstract alien
Member
They won't. They just want a traditional system with a traditional controller that can play the same games with better graphics and shitty framerates.KevinRo said:
/anger_post
Didn't they sell 8 million Move units?Sipowicz said:
Here is how something like the vitality sensor works. From Wikipedia:
Typically it has a pair of small light-emitting diodes (LEDs) facing a photodiode through a translucent part of the patient's body, usually a fingertip or an earlobe. One LED is red, with wavelength of 660 nm, and the other is infrared, 905, 910, or 940 nm. Absorption at these wavelengths differs significantly between oxyhemoglobin and its deoxygenated form; therefore, the oxy/deoxyhemoglobin ratio can be calculated from the ratio of the absorption of the red and infrared light. The absorbance of oxyhemoglobin and deoxyhemoglobin is the same (isosbestic point) for the wavelengths of 590 and 805 nm; earlier oximeters used these wavelengths for correction for hemoglobin concentration
Can a touch screen do this?
edit: I see people gave some suggestions.
Typically it has a pair of small light-emitting diodes (LEDs) facing a photodiode through a translucent part of the patient's body, usually a fingertip or an earlobe. One LED is red, with wavelength of 660 nm, and the other is infrared, 905, 910, or 940 nm. Absorption at these wavelengths differs significantly between oxyhemoglobin and its deoxygenated form; therefore, the oxy/deoxyhemoglobin ratio can be calculated from the ratio of the absorption of the red and infrared light. The absorbance of oxyhemoglobin and deoxyhemoglobin is the same (isosbestic point) for the wavelengths of 590 and 805 nm; earlier oximeters used these wavelengths for correction for hemoglobin concentration
Can a touch screen do this?
edit: I see people gave some suggestions.
velvet_nitemare
Member
LolBig One said:
Supervlieg
Member
Controller wil feature head tracking, effectively turning your tv into a giant 3d screen. Johnny Chung Lee redeemed. I called it here first!
(unless it was mentioned a few seconds ago like 40 pages back or something.)
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
The difference would be that Wii launched 2 years after developers had already started making 360 games a putting tons of resources into "next gen" HD development. Again, if Wii had launched in 2003-2004, things might've gone differently in terms of developer support. preempting the next gen with a 1.5 gen system, and launching last in the next gen with a 1.5 gen system is somewhat different.KAL2006 said:
I honestly don't want WiiHD to be anywhere near as powerful as PS4/720, it would just get the same multiplatform games, which means the fanbase would be split more, for example if a next gen COD or Street Fighter comes out on WiiHD, 720 and PS4, the fanbase of those games would be split 3 ways, at the moment the fanbase for thse games are split 2 ways between PS3 and 360 while Wii gets different games and Nintendo exclusives. I want it to stay like that.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Medalion said:
Didn't that thing get shitcanned?
apana said:What does Biometric feedback membrane look like?
Also here is an example of biofeedback.:
Wii 2?
I don't know what Valve was using as the material on their mice, but as somebody in this thread keeps pointing out, check out treadmills. The grips on those all have pulse meters built in. I don't think it would require a whole lot to implement naturally into the underside of a controller.
Green Scar said:
Yes. Kind of like the Wiimote got shitcanned for the Gamecube.
Graphics Horse
Member
Londa said:
Ignore the two dpads, I don't think that's been mentioned anywhere else.
http://wiihdrumors.com/mockups/
CoffeeJanitor
Member
Or, you know, maybe none of it's true at all.apana said:
Hot Coldman
Banned
Brazil said:
Huh, I thought I remembered reading that somewhere. I can see that not get released outside of Japan (or possibly Europe) if it does turn up ever again anyway.
MatthewB92 said:
Sounds good, but I would change one thing. With in-game invites you should just be able to send a request that they can choose to accept or reject with no friend codes either way. So out of game you have to enter a friend code or user name(hopefully?) to send an invite. But in-game no codes just a simple yes or no invite. Then I'd be perfectly satisfied with that component of Nintendo's online system.
TheOddOne said:
how so, as a person who buys multiple consoles (currently have PC, PS3, Wii, DS, PSP) I don't want to own similar consoles, that is why I don't have a 360 as I already own PC and PS3 which have similar games to 360
I would prefer if the WiiHD was a cheap secondary console to my expensive PS4, than WiiHD being basically the same as PS4 and just as expensive.
AceBandage
Banned
artwalknoon said:
That would be like the Rival List that is in many DS/Wii games.
Brazil said:
It knows if your body is ready, duh.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Brazil said:
It takes your pulse. We know this. Right?
TheOddOne said:
But I like buying at least 2 consoles as I am a fan of Nintendo and Sony franchises, and if they are both powerful and expensive then I will have to pay a lot of money, but if WiiHD wasn't as powerful and was much cheaper than PS4 then I wouldn't have to spend that much money. And again I don't like franchises getting on too many platfomrs at the moment it's PS3/360, but if its going to be on all 3 nextgen consoles the community will be split 3 ways, for example I hate that I don't get to play 360 players when I play SSFIV on PS3, now if the community gets split 3 ways that would be even worse.
AceBandage said:
Is that how SSF4 3D works cuz I haven't done that yet. I only play with friends over wifi with no rival list. Every time I play a random person they spam the combo/super buttons on the touch screen and I have to put them down hard and leave after the match. Spammers suck.
ReyVGM
Member
KAL2006 said:
Ideally, that would be great if 3rd parties actually made games for the thing.
In the Wii situation, we only got Tatsunoko, but no SF4 or Marvel vs Capcom 3. That also meant no Tekken or Virtua Fighter. No Devil May Cry, no Final Fantasy, no Contra. No Bioshock or Fallout.
I rather have the same 3rd party games as the other consoles because at least that way I can play all 3rd party games.
crazy monkey
Banned
the only thing i want is that it has to have bluray player. power wise i am fine with 360 ps3 era.
ReyVGM said:
but if your a multiconsole owner and own a PS4 or 720, you wouldn't care as you can play those games on that system with most likely better online (lets be honest Nintendo is ot known for good online), as a multiconsole buyer, I would rather buy 1 expensive high tech console (PS4) as well as a secondary console (WiiHD) and again I don't like communities beign split for multiplayer games.
Dr.Palutena
Member
KAL2006 said:
but what about people who would like to only own one console? personally as someone who owns all the consoles and intends to have all the future ones when they are affordable and games he wants on them come out, i see where you're coming from though.
AceBandage
Banned
DoomXploder7 said:
They should own a PC, then.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Agreed. I think Wii2/Xbox3 should be in the same hardware class and PS4 can be dramatically more/less powerful. Then fuck the people who want more games on their system of choice.KAL2006 said:fuck those people
- Status