RAÏSanÏa
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That first line was like reading the essence of part of Medvedev's letter to Poland again.
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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine
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Cyberpunkd
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Obligatory:
Kaliningrad - Wikipedia
This place is stuffed to the brim with Russian weapons and bordering NATO countries. But hey, apparently Kremlin can do ‘whatever it wants’:
After NATO complained about Russia putting nuke-capable missiles in Europe, Kremlin says it can do what it wants
"This again makes the situation even more serious because Iskanders in Kaliningrad means dangers for half of European capitals."
Off course they are .. they can’t seem to win easily , so they resort to tactics that are barbaric , not from this time .. but Putin likes to life in the 50s, it’s to bad the people of Russia will also .. probably will be even more hateful towards the west in the next decades .
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RAÏSanÏa
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No. The existence of NATO might have been an irritant against their plans for expansion and ideology but that was only an excuse. NATO is a defensive pact and had no military plans to invade Russia.
Russia's got de-nazification and several other historical revisionist and religious lies to support their war. NATO was just added bullshit.
Russia doesn't get to tell anyone else what to do or how they can do it. They can fuck right off.
No idea and possibly not disclosed. Maybe some hints if you looked into it by doing a google search. Even if finding stuff not directly related to Ukraine learning some of the reasoning for selection might be insightful into the procedures and standards for you.
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Cyberpunkd
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Exactly, Ukraine’s neutrality is an excuse. Not to mention Russia broke their own fucking agreement guaranteeing Ukraine sovereignty:
Ukraine and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia
NoLootBoxDev
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Russia tells US envoy that Russian-American relations are on the verge of rupture
usatoday.com/story/...
Then why not kick Putin out and have a real person who cares about Russia?
poppabk
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I'm pretty sure that NATO expansion is the main reason for this war. But not because it threatens Russia in anyway but because it threatens Putins ego.
NoLootBoxDev
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Damn, I remember when I threw a flag of my country into the garbage when I was a kid and the teacher made a Reunion for this....
RAÏSanÏa
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That's part of what was said during some speeches. It seems misleading and not the real reason considering they've pushed domestically de-nazification and their wrongly held belief in a historical claim to the point of obsession in their culture. They were preparing the nation for this for a long time.
counting bodies like cigs is the rhythm of these war bums.
Makes the Ukrainian numbers look fairly accurate.
Theater props from the rally last week.
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chromhound
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Video from 2019.
Oleksiy Arestovych = Adviser to the Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine.
Oleksiy Arestovych = Adviser to the Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
What missiles would Ukraine point at Russia? What are you even talking about?
Hawking Radiation
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Raven117
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This phrase somewhat implies that the West is "using" Ukraine. The Ukranians were going to fight the Russians with sticks and stones if they had to...The West gave them better weapons to do it.
Is it a proxy war? Yes. But if Ukraine didn't' want to fight, no body would make them.
poppabk
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The Ukraine has been acquiring Russian missile launchers over the last couple of weeks.
Wildebeest
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I'd like someone to explain to me what the US gains from wrecking the worlds economy, putting food and energy security in allied countries in doubt, risking the peace dividend and dollar hegemony, and starting a new nuclear arms race. Seems to me that they gain sweet FA from any of this and would desperately like to avoid all of it.
rnlval
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In the end, feelings are useless without firepower to implement them. This is the classic "hard power" game.
Liljagare
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The RK-360MC Neptune antiship cruise missile could be repurposed, though unsure how many Ukraine bought. They just started arming the 2nd battallion in 2021. Doubt they are interested in this though, Ukraine just wants to hold out as long as possible.
Though there are photos of a captured Iskander launcher. That farmer could turn it around, and launch remaining missiles with some aid from the military.
(cant believe how much those farmers have been dragging home to the barns, sort of a fun note in all this misery).
Though there are photos of a captured Iskander launcher. That farmer could turn it around, and launch remaining missiles with some aid from the military.
(cant believe how much those farmers have been dragging home to the barns, sort of a fun note in all this misery).
dotnotbot
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Most likely fake, it's second time ukrainian side claims that something violated polish airspace but Poland didn't observe anything like that. There's tons of NATO aircrafts and drones flying close to eastern borders of NATO right now so I'm sure we would've known better.
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Maybe you should let Putin know that NATO never share weapons and host base defence systems across the nations.
He's gone this far not knowing what you know. Silly billy.
And all that with the Cold War, all for nothing. Historical enemies shouldn't concern each other being nextdoor.
I forget the good relations we have between Israel and its neighbours who are culturally different.
Naïve ones.
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funkygunther
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This is pretty incoherent. Can you compose yourself and try again?
Celcius
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First Putin wanted to get Ukraine to join him and become part of Russia, but that didn’t work. What if next he says that he’s going to wipe them out and then they just start intentionally shooting civilians and saying that their plan is to exterminate them and destroy every building. Would the rest of the world not even jump in then?
chromhound
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interesting
Wildebeest
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Let me tell you a little story about this country called Syria and what happened when a bunch of fine lads and lasses decided that democracy might be an improvement...
BigBooper
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What if he started eating newborn infants in milk for breakfast? Some things you can't decide until they happen.
Thaedolus
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It sounds like the EU has another sanctions package cutting off gas trade ready to go if Russia crosses more red lines, which are speculated to be some sort of WMD/chemical weapon use. I’m not sure anyone is going to do more than that unless Russia does hit NATO countries, and even then, I bet it’s slap on the wrist
Pegasus Actual
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Depends on if he does it with whole milk like a decent person or if he half-asses it with 2%, or goes full scumbag with skim.
RAÏSanÏa
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Doesn't appear to include foreign fighters like dead Chechens. With many left in the field possibly uncounted. And the captured.
High-end counts provided by Ukraine looking reasonable.
FunkMiller
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Yes, yes. This is of course somehow our fault.
And it’s certainly not to much to ask for Ukraine to do exactly what Putin wants.
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Good grief.
Liljagare
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Ukraine war: Man, 96, who survived four Nazi concentration camps killed during Russian attack on Kharkiv
Boris Romanchenko, who lived through imprisonment at Buchenwald, Peenemunde, Dora and Bergen-Belsen, was killed on Friday in the block of flats where he lived.
Also, echoes from the past, still causes issues for Russia.
Witold Pilecki - Wikipedia
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Ukraine war: Man, 96, who survived four Nazi concentration camps killed during Russian attack on Kharkiv
Boris Romanchenko, who lived through imprisonment at Buchenwald, Peenemunde, Dora and Bergen-Belsen, was killed on Friday in the block of flats where he lived.news.sky.com
The Nazi classification he's wearing identifies him as a Russian/Soviet political prisoner as well.
"Born on January 20, 1926 in Bondari, near Sumy, he was captured by the Germans in 1942 and interned in Dortmund as a prisoner of war. He managed to escape but was recaptured, deported to Buchenwald and forced to forced labor in October 1943. For a time he was forced to collaborate with the Germans in the construction of the V2 ballistic missiles at the Peenemuende base, then transferred to the concentration camps of Mittelbau. -Dora and Bergen-Belsen.
After the war, he helped establish an aid network for former victims of the Nazi persecution in Ukraine. "
The guy was captured by literal Nazis at age 16 and survived, likely survived the Holodomor too, only to have Putin finish what Hitler started 80 year ago.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
The US has ICBMs and stealth subs that can launch enough cruise missiles to destroy Russia. NATO doesn't need any missile bases in Ukraine.
darrylgorn
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Russia tells US envoy that Russian-American relations are on the verge of rupture
usatoday.com/story/...
STARSBarry
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Russia’s Only Prototype T-80UM2 Tank Was Destroyed In Ukraine
The T-80UM2 never led to quantity production and its presence in Ukraine remains mysterious.
www.thedrive.com
As an armoured vehicle enthusiast this one hurts, but within specific very autistic circles Ukraine has just destroyed a legend. Not to be confused with the "Black Eagle" as that never had a functioning turret, this was the real deal, and was essentially a one off "Ultimate T-80". This thing never belonged on a battlefield but should have been in a museum.
Well done Ukraine, this is akin to some one shooting down the prototype of the RAH-66 Comanche. Anouther Russian legend destroyed on your soil.
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GreenAlien
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US hegemony has been losing steam for some time. If russia goes bankrupt and Putin gets dethroned, there is a chance to turn russia away from china and towards the west again. Might be enough to reverse the trend and keep china and others from acting out for another century...
DaleinCalgary
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RAÏSanÏa
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Ural vag on za vod
Russia’s Only Prototype T-80UM2 Tank Was Destroyed In Ukraine
The T-80UM2 never led to quantity production and its presence in Ukraine remains mysterious.
Putin had a baby and its head popped off.
chromhound
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Not a secret anymore lol...
FunkMiller
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I don’t think folks quite realise the extent and the sophistication of the weaponry that NATO has at its disposal. It’s why Putin is being such a scared little bitch. He knows he’s hopelessly outclassed and is essentially picking on an easy opponent to make his tiny little genitalia feel a bit bigger.
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It was a short-range ballistic missile fired from 9K720 Iskander.
Lukaku's First Touch
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Well if they are positioning weaponry next to the mall, you can expect Russians to bomb it.
IDKFA
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This. NATO outclasses Russia (and the CSTO) in every field. This is mostly thanks to the US, who alone outclass Russia in every area. This is why Russia won't risk going into NATO territory.
This is why I'm baffled by people such as Guy Verhofstadt saying this war shows why the EU needs a unified army?
Lukaku's First Touch
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Don't listen to Verhofstadt, he's despised in his home country and ran of to the EU when he was done shitting up Belgium and everyone saw trough his bullshit.
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