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Sailor Moon Crystal |OT| In the name of the manga, I'll entertain you!
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Femmeworth
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I don't know. I'll do it myself to find what I like. Thanks though.
An interesting read but it doesn't change my opinion much. Some of the logic is a tad shaky. Also that isn't really meant to apply to forums.
Forums are by their nature places for news and discussion, and one thing that article doesn't go into is the ability to use spoilers as a way to shut down discussion on demand and the toxic effect such a trigger has on a community when allowed free reign. You have people innocently posting normal things being shouted down by a vocal minority who exploit the reasonable person's willingness to be accommodating and considerate. It's an actual slippery slope as there's no end point to the claims. There's no point where you can't "err on the side of caution" further.
Saw some thread the other day where a seemingly innocuous image was posted, someone pulled the whole "whoa don't go posting x spoilers" card that identified what it parodied, and people started getting mad at being given context. No one gave a damn before then. Again, shit was funny.
So you mean... it's different??? I love reading how people judge an entire show from the first couple minutes of the pilot.
Just like game reviews, ignore it and enjoy it yourself
Unless you mean to say that you didn't like it yourself. I don't see why not. Dubbing is VERY expensive, and using the same people would be a smart financial decision.
UberTag
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They've already confirmed that will be the case.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
So one more week of no new ep right?
Yeah, only two episodes per month, so it airs biweekly.
Why compare them? They're two different shows.
Edited: Fixed fail English.
Femmeworth
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Obviously some people do go over board to silly degrees, like the person stump was talking to. But what Zoe did was fine.
Yikes, that would be three episodes per year.
It's actually one episode on every first and third saturday of the month which means it will have two or three week breaks depending on the number of saturdays in a month.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
wait why
I'm not seeing Japanese subtitles on Crunchyroll. I only see English, Spanish, and Portuguese subtitles on the Crunchyroll website.
I almost never use Crunchyroll, so I might not be looking in the right spot for them.
KDash31987
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IGN had also posted a review of the first episode the same day I posted that, but I didn't notice it...or maybe it was posted after that video they did. I don't know...but there it is now. In this post. Yup.
Anyway, 6 more days until the second episode...
Oh my god, I just realized my English COMPLETELY failed there.
I meant every second Saturday, so two times a month! D:
Sorry to scare you with my previous post.
The show is airing biweekly!
Again, that's not entirely correct, it airs on every first and third saturday, which makes it biweekly most of the time but not always. August has five saturdays which means there will be a three week break between episodes on August 16th and September 6th. November, January, and May 2015 have five saturdays too, so we will have 4 three week breaks over the next year. The final episode should air on July 18th 2015 if there are no preemptions.
I find the two week breaks annoying, the three week breaks are going to kill me.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Oh my god, I just realized my English COMPLETELY failed there.
I meant every second Saturday, so two times a month! D:
Sorry to scare you with my previous post.
The show is airing biweekly!
Again, that's not entirely correct, it airs on every first and third saturday, which makes it biweekly most of the time but not always. August has five saturdays which means there will be a three week break between episodes on August 16th and September 6th. November, January, and May 2015 have five saturdays too, so we will have 4 three week breaks over the next year. The final episode should air on July 18th 2015 if there are no preemptions.
I find the two week breaks annoying, the three week breaks are going to kill me.
I don't get why it will only air twice a month though, and why for July it has two breaks in-between rather than one.
So I watched the first episode.
The Good:
The first episode was extremely faithful to the first episode of the original series.
The Bad:
The first episode was extremely faithful to the first episode of the original series.
As much as I loved this show as a kid... it's just really hard to stomach as an adult. There's no way I could of sat through that without the whole nostalgia factor.
The Good:
The first episode was extremely faithful to the first episode of the original series.
The Bad:
The first episode was extremely faithful to the first episode of the original series.
As much as I loved this show as a kid... it's just really hard to stomach as an adult. There's no way I could of sat through that without the whole nostalgia factor.
Zoe
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Fixed.
The story will get more serious by the 6th episode or so. We don't know if it will follow the manga 100%, but it's definitely not going to follow the previous anime.
Pluto should just stop time and drop a steamroller on them.
ZombiePlatypus
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Really, really liked the first episode. But, on a somewhat different note, is this whole reboot aiming to cover the entire manga from start to finish? Cause even if they get rid of the inanimate object turned into the monster of the week filler that the OG anime had, at 2 episodes per month, this is gonna be a very long-term project no?
Zoe
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No, there are 60 chapters (originally 52), so just over 2 years if they keep at the same pace.
And that's without factoring in that they could pull a small-scale Dragon Ball Z and elongate some of the action sequences with more content. Not like episode after episode of men screaming at each other or anything, but from what I remember of the manga, there is plenty of room for embellishment here and there in the action sequences.
Jadeite had character development in the anime? He's a pathetic boot-licker at best with little to no personality outside of that.
Oh come on, I can admit there was good stuff in there, but let's not pretend there wasn't a huge chunk of filler in a SENTAI show.
Some of the ways they tried to pull the show along weren't really done all that well, but overall it was incredibly well done and I think we can let this one stand on its own for a little while longer.
A remaster wouldn't hurt, though, if they haven't done one already.
Sailor Moon is episodic magical girl, not sentai. It doesn't take itself as seriously and isn't as concerned with the same themes and issues.
Calling what the old anime does "filler" fails under any meaningful definition of the word.
Yea, don't kid yourself Hitokage, Sailor Moon had filler strewn about, even by its own standards Episode 20 of the first series was a fillery waste of time to cite an example. To quantify, it was a story not about Queen Beryl or her minions or anything related to the actual proceedings. It was an episode of Scooby-Doo and the main focus was a little girl and the actions of the Scouts were so generic and insubstantial they could have been filled by anyone.
I didn't remember what the episode 20 was about so I youtubed (is it a verb yet?) it and watched the American version. I think this was the first time I watched US version of Sailor Moon and damn, the voices were bad. Luna had the voice of old lady with weird accent, Nephrite sounded as if he had throat cancer (isn't he supposed to be 19 years old?) and Zoisite was turned into woman (wtf?). Also, what's the deal with those weird transitions between scenes and the lesson from Sailor Moon about being good and not judging people based on their appearances and actions at the end of the episode?
Well to be fair, Japanese Luna sounds like a nagging old lady. I really like the new voice in Crystal for her!
Zoe
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Uh... original Luna had a high voice too.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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The original SM dub is pretty much the poster child of butchered localizations. Zoisite was changed into a woman because they didn't have the balls to depict a gay character in a children's show back then and IIRC the same thing happened to another villain from SuperS. Uranus and Neptune were also retconned into "cousins" in S's dub.
Sailor Moon Crystal
Episode 1
Overall I liked it. It was interesting in seeing something somewhat new and different but also very familiar and nostalgic at the same time.
I'd pretty much echo most of the sentiments that many have already stated. The eyecatches looked very nice and the rose bordering during the character introductions reminded me of Ikuhara and shows like Utena. I also liked the more watercoloured style of the backgrounds. I'm still not sure what to think of the designs but I'll at least give them a chance. The original show is 200 episodes,three movies and some specials which have been around for roughly twenty years now. One would naturally be more used to those styles or have their own ideas of what a new look could be with years to think about it. I'd also have to agree that the CG during the transformation sequence was so-so and wouldn't have minded some of the more comedic reaction faces.
With the show being a more straight adaptation of the manga, or at least the first episode anyway, I could at least see where some are coming from in how they feel it's a bit cliche in some of its topics or presentation. I liked it anyway but at least some of these people are fair in acknowledging that the manga is 20+ years old and was really the origin, or part of the origin, of many of the cliches or modern ideas they are more used to.
On the one hand I would have liked to see the return of the original VA's but on the other I also wanted to hear what it would be like to have some of the more current VA's voicing the characters. Hearing Naru voiced by Satomi Satou was pretty neat then. Kotono Mitsuishi may be intentionally changing her voice but at the same time it has been about 20 years or so since the original series so it's not really that surprising if she can't quite pull off the same voice.
It had some flaws but I found it entertaining overall and am interested in seeing the second episode. The wait between episodes might actually be my biggest complaint.
Thanks for reading.
Episode 1
Sailor V still looking cute in her cameo.
Overall I liked it. It was interesting in seeing something somewhat new and different but also very familiar and nostalgic at the same time.
I'd pretty much echo most of the sentiments that many have already stated. The eyecatches looked very nice and the rose bordering during the character introductions reminded me of Ikuhara and shows like Utena. I also liked the more watercoloured style of the backgrounds. I'm still not sure what to think of the designs but I'll at least give them a chance. The original show is 200 episodes,three movies and some specials which have been around for roughly twenty years now. One would naturally be more used to those styles or have their own ideas of what a new look could be with years to think about it. I'd also have to agree that the CG during the transformation sequence was so-so and wouldn't have minded some of the more comedic reaction faces.
With the show being a more straight adaptation of the manga, or at least the first episode anyway, I could at least see where some are coming from in how they feel it's a bit cliche in some of its topics or presentation. I liked it anyway but at least some of these people are fair in acknowledging that the manga is 20+ years old and was really the origin, or part of the origin, of many of the cliches or modern ideas they are more used to.
On the one hand I would have liked to see the return of the original VA's but on the other I also wanted to hear what it would be like to have some of the more current VA's voicing the characters. Hearing Naru voiced by Satomi Satou was pretty neat then. Kotono Mitsuishi may be intentionally changing her voice but at the same time it has been about 20 years or so since the original series so it's not really that surprising if she can't quite pull off the same voice.
It had some flaws but I found it entertaining overall and am interested in seeing the second episode. The wait between episodes might actually be my biggest complaint.
Thanks for reading.
Completely disagree.
I don't watch a lot of anime now, but I did back then. And whenever I think of "Early 90s anime where the English dub was actually better than the original" Sailor Moon is one of the first to come to mind. The orginal English voice cast was stellar, and primarily because the voices chosen fit the character and not the archetype that character filled.
Luna is the best example of this. The original Japanese voice for Luna is exactly what you'd imagine if someone asked you to imagine what a "cute talking cartoon cat" would sound like. In that sense, it's perfect. However, the English dub fits more to Luna's role in the story. Luna sounds like a nagging old lady because...well, she IS a nagging old lady. She's the adviser and guardian of the sailor scouts, especially tasked with mentoring Sailor Moon, the brattiest of all the scouts. Making her sound like a British nanny was, in my opinion, genius.
Likewise, I loved how confident Ami's English voice is, not just one-tone meek sounding. And I especially love how Serena's season 1 English voice knew how to tap into Serena's hidden intelligence. She knew exactly when to not make her sound ditzy, and I loved how she actually made her voice deeper the few times we heard her as the Moon Princess.
All around, I think the English dub just nailed it. In fact, it's the only anime series to come from that period that I think did nail it with their English dub.
Fimbulvetr
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Okay so:
An inability to let quiet moments speak for themselves(instead they're replaced by needless filler dialogue), really lame attempts at emulating the way American teens spoke, changes in dialogue that actively screw up the intentions of the characters.
Amara's VA... also cousins.
I don't even know.
Serena's second VA.
Most of those things you point out could be blamed on the script, and not the voice actors themselves. Although there's no defending Serena's second voice actress. She wasn't nearly as a good.
Also, I personally PREFER English Serena's reaction to Dorian being Tuxedo Mask. Her line, "...he is Tuxedo Mask I don't believe it." line comes off so funny, and intentionally so and with great effect, because to the audience it's always been fucking obvious that Dorian was Tuxedo Mask. Usagi in the Japanese dub comes off as too awe-struck by the reveal. The tone of Serena's English voice heavily implies that she knows she should have realized that he was Tuxedo Mask this whole time...because duh.
So Naru was supposed to be a total airhead who could barely speak right the whole time instead of a relatively well off and intelligent girl? Also, Ami is a character who struggles with her own insecurity. She is not meant to be confident.
I've seen an old dub episode recently. It's absolutely shit. Nostalgia is a lie.
I've seen an old dub episode recently. It's absolutely shit. Nostalgia is a lie.
"Could barely speak right"? it's called a New Jersey accent.
Also, Ami's English voice comes off as intelligent and more soft-spoken than the other girls, but I like that there's strength there, because that is Ami. Ami isn't just meek and insecure.
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